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Post by JOCAZTEC on Sept 3, 2012 13:17:24 GMT -8
Tulsa auditioned its study body and found a kid that ended up kicking a long field goal to beat Houston in a last second come from behind thriller of a football a few seasons ago.
Hail Aztec Montezuma!
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Post by myownwords on Sept 3, 2012 14:21:10 GMT -8
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but aren't college goal posts about 5 feet narrower than high school? That would explain some of the problem in recruiting, but isn't that accounted for in the process?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 14:33:40 GMT -8
For once Nick is right on with this article. I really like Rocky but going for two on the first TD and not attempting a short kick which then if made we could have done an onsides kick and been in a position to win. There is a reason coaches have been doing it one way forever. I don't mind a gutsy call, but Rocky really blew this one. He out thought himself.
Bottom line I don't think Rocky believed we could win that one straight up. I think the team proved it could have.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 14:38:45 GMT -8
I don't know if Rocky is a good coach or not. But a Div 1 football team that goes into a season without a kicker that can't kickoff deeper than the 10 or reliably kick extra points has something wrong with it that can only be blamed on the coaching staff. Yoshida used to get pilloried here for not being able to kick if any deeper than that. The guy we used Saturday had a 5-yard handicap on Yoshida. If McMorrow's back prevents him from playing, time to try to soccer player. Two weeks ago he was numero uno on the depth chart in kicking off.
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Post by smoketree on Sept 3, 2012 14:38:55 GMT -8
McMorrow was the back up kicker for this game and Canepa really blasted him in his column. If Long is to recruit San Diego kids, I really don't think he should be telling reporters negative things about his players....
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Post by aztech on Sept 3, 2012 15:15:54 GMT -8
Here's the real "flip side" guys. Rocky made some really gutsy calls last night. We failed. Ok....so now you're entitled to eviscerate him. That's fine. But he took responsibility for his decisions. He didn't blame the players for not getting it done on 4th down. So let's get Rocky...that's the solution. Responsibility or not, does that mean he's going to continue with his plan? We have a weak schedule so maybe he gets away with this nonsense. If we make a bowl this year and he stubbornly clings to it, then you can guarantee another loss to his horrible bowl record. BTW, all who commented to Canepa's article agreed with him. Not one disagreed and that's rare for Canepa.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 3, 2012 15:31:24 GMT -8
Here's the real "flip side" guys. Rocky made some really gutsy calls last night. We failed. Ok....so now you're entitled to eviscerate him. That's fine. But he took responsibility for his decisions. He didn't blame the players for not getting it done on 4th down. So let's get Rocky...that's the solution. Actually, he took no blame. Instead, he blamed the kicker for forcing him into the NO-kick decision.
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 3, 2012 15:44:56 GMT -8
So does everybody just accept at face value, that in order to win close games you have to do something out of the ordinary to win? I always thought the team that made the most plays, and fewest mistakes, was the team likeliest to win close games. No, not everybody accepts this garbage at face value. In fact, I'd say that the inverse is closer to the truth than the premise. In other words, you have to be good at the ordinary things to win. Block, tackle, run, pass, and KICK. Imitating a high school coach (who for all we know plays in a seven-on-seven league) is asinine. There's no other adjective to describe it. Could Rocky throw in a wrinkle or two? Sure. His defense is a little less than conventional and I'm not crazy about it but even I have to admit that it has its place. Do you occasionally go for it on fourth? Do you occasionally fake a punt? Do you occasionally go for two? Of course. Occasionally. The more I think about the punting deal, I can see the merit. However, notso for the kicking game.
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Post by smoketree on Sept 3, 2012 17:54:10 GMT -8
Talking to a knowledgeable source and they tell me that kickers have their own coaches who are not even on the staff. I believe this is quite common and I believe even professional kickers have private coaches. They are their own breed as we all know. I hope that Long has not alienated his kickers by insulting them to the press. Imagine if they (kickers) told him to stick it and quit? This is not the way to treat young kids IMO.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 3, 2012 18:14:19 GMT -8
Why put quotes around a paraphrase? Want to quote? Put up the quote. So it's better to be a grammar cop than discuss the post? It's not grammar. It is attribution.
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Sept 3, 2012 19:14:49 GMT -8
A couple of nights ago I covered for Rocky, thinking we would hear that McMorrow had pulled a groin in warmups or something. But now we're getting a different version of things, and you can't like the sound of it. Something is very wrong here, and it falls at the feet of the coaching staff. Rocky's got some explaining to do.
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Post by zurac315 on Sept 3, 2012 19:30:36 GMT -8
So McMorrow is no good? I thought when he signed everyone was pretty pleased. What's the story?
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Post by zurac315 on Sept 3, 2012 19:34:09 GMT -8
Bottom line I don't think Rocky believed we could win that one straight up. That would be the saddest and most damning thing at all: for a coach to not believe that his kids can win a game (or at least not pretend that he believes it until the final gun). I sincerely hope this isn't the case (although there is evidence to support the notion). Chuck Long would have pretended. That worked out well.
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Post by zurac315 on Sept 3, 2012 19:37:04 GMT -8
Here's the real "flip side" guys. Rocky made some really gutsy calls last night. We failed. Ok....so now you're entitled to eviscerate him. That's fine. But he took responsibility for his decisions. He didn't blame the players for not getting it done on 4th down. So let's get Rocky...that's the solution. Responsibility or not, does that mean he's going to continue with his plan? We have a weak schedule so maybe he gets away with this nonsense. If we make a bowl this year and he stubbornly clings to it, then you can guarantee another loss to his horrible bowl record. BTW, all who commented to Canepa's article agreed with him. Not one disagreed and that's rare for Canepa. No schedule we have played in the last 30 years has been a weak schedule. Not for the Aztecs. And this schedule is not weak either, not yet.
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Post by killiansc on Sept 3, 2012 19:40:33 GMT -8
Our kicker was the tops in San Diego last year. Rocky decided not to use him. That doesn't mean the kicker is horrible and it doesn't mean Rocky will not use him next game. Get a clue.
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Post by zurac315 on Sept 3, 2012 19:42:29 GMT -8
Azthetic, Nick is an SDSU guy but he's brain-damaged by JYP's "convention". We've won a couple of games with good field goal kickers but lost a whole bunch more. And Nick admits a "bad" kicker (whatever that means) can cost you "W's". So who determines who is a good kicker v. a bad kicker? And if you don't know for sure you've got a "good" kicker, aren't you taking more risk by letting that guy kick rather than going for it? I agree. A less than average kicker can make the field goal Rocky decided against. No excuse for that.
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Post by zurac315 on Sept 3, 2012 19:55:13 GMT -8
Our kicker was the tops in San Diego last year. Rocky decided not to use him. That doesn't mean the kicker is horrible and it doesn't mean Rocky will not use him next game. Get a clue. Ok, I'll try my best to "get a clue." Offend easily, much. Scheesh! You must be a fun guy to be around.
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Post by killiansc on Sept 3, 2012 20:23:19 GMT -8
Our kicker was the tops in San Diego last year. Rocky decided not to use him. That doesn't mean the kicker is horrible and it doesn't mean Rocky will not use him next game. Get a clue. Ok, I'll try my best to "get a clue." Offend easily, much. Scheesh! You must be a fun guy to be around. You can't tell anything from one game. If our kicker was recruited by many and didn't play in the first game it was a coaches decision. It doesn't mean the kicker isn't good. What is your take on why Rocky Rong didn't use him?
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 3, 2012 21:12:52 GMT -8
So it's better to be a grammar cop than discuss the post? It's not grammar. It is attribution. I suppose I should have written Off topic.
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Post by smoketree on Sept 4, 2012 6:30:42 GMT -8
My concern is the way Rocky has thrown the kicker under the bus. A true freshman, geez. Having Canepa basically say the kid is a bust is so unfair. There is going to be a backlash I am afraid.
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