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Post by sdsuaztecs on Sept 2, 2012 17:04:32 GMT -8
Did anyone notice the bias in the announcers (who coincidentally are hired by the PAC-12) especially as they discussed controversial calls? No mention was made of the clothes-lining of Ryan Katz's neck as if it almost never happened. I see some real problems with the BIG 10 and the PAC-12 networks announcers because they are going to be biased in favor of their employers because otherwise it would essentially be "bad-mouthing" their own employer. When was the last time Chris Berman critized ESPN or Barack Obama criticized the Democratic Party?
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Post by Aztec89 on Sept 2, 2012 17:09:37 GMT -8
I didn't really have a problem with the telecast. Of course it is their network. I thought it was better than watching say, a Chicago White Sox broadcast.
JMO.
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Sept 2, 2012 17:21:07 GMT -8
Aztec89,
There is a presumption of unbiased reporting that was disguised/not apparent by the broadcasters. Perhaps a disclaimer that you are an employee of the PAC-12 and that any comments may not necessarily be unbiased should warn the viewer that the commentary may be biased before any of the broadcasters say anything. As football junkies, we've become accustomed to unbiased football reporting by CBS, ESPN and FOX. Howevever, if you own stock in a company and promote that company among your friends, the first question is "do you own stock in the company"? Similarly, if you are an employee of a company (PAC-12) can you be expected to render an unbiased commentary especially as it relates to controversial calls? Think BYU replay fumble......I think you know the answer.
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Post by danloc09 on Sept 2, 2012 17:34:44 GMT -8
Aztec89, There is a presumption of unbiased reporting that was disguised/not apparent by the broadcasters Someone should tell that to Mark Grant, and almost every other local guy. |
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Sept 2, 2012 17:45:25 GMT -8
It is unethical to claim unbiased reporting or pretend anything of the sort when you are getting paid by someone to comment. For example, when the late night infomercials come on, you know none of these clowns is unbiased. Why is that? Because you know they are getting paid by whoever the product manufacturer is. So as a consumer you know to beware. The PAC-12 and Big 10 simply need to say, "our announcers are paid employees and any comments may be biased in favor of the PAC-12". PERIOD!
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Post by ned4 on Sept 2, 2012 17:51:12 GMT -8
It is unethical to claim unbiased reporting or pretend anything of the sort when you are getting paid by someone to comment. For example, when the late night infomercials come on, you know none of these clowns is unbiased. Why is that? Because you know they are getting paid by whoever the product manufacturer is. The PAC-12 and Big 10 need to simply come out and say, "our announcers are paid employees". PERIOD! So you want the PAC-12 to tell you that the announcers for a game on THE PAC-12 NETWORK are employees of the PAC-12?!?!? lol. you dumb. |
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Sept 2, 2012 17:56:55 GMT -8
Yes....as a matter of fact. the correct answer is yes, they should disclose they are employees. When Jim
Cramer or any stock analyst offers an opinion about a stock it is SOP to disclose whether or not you have an interest (either as an employee, stockholder or indirect affiliation) in that company. The PAC-12 has deftly avoided making any disclaimers about whether the commentators are biased or not. It is really a very clever strategy because the unwary public presumes the commentators are unbiased.
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Post by aztecsrule72001 on Sept 2, 2012 18:44:12 GMT -8
I had no problem with bias, it was all the mistakes that bothered me, seemed like he was wrong more often than he was right.
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Post by ned4 on Sept 2, 2012 18:44:45 GMT -8
Yes....as a matter of fact. the correct answer is yes, they should disclose they are employees. When Jim Cramer or any stock analyst offers an opinion about a stock it is SOP to disclose whether or not you have an interest (either as an employee, stockholder or indirect affiliation) in that company. The PAC-12 has deftly avoided making any disclaimers about whether the commentators are biased or not. It is really a very clever strategy because the unwary public presumes the commentators are unbiased. I'm sorry that you need the obvious to be stated to you. |
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Sept 2, 2012 19:07:55 GMT -8
Ned4,
What's your point?
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Post by Azthetic on Sept 2, 2012 19:18:03 GMT -8
I think that the point is.....who the f cares?
We lost the game and it makes us look like whiners not winners to complain about the announcers on their own channel.
Think UW fans will call and complain about Ted Leitner on our radio broadcasts?
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Sept 2, 2012 19:24:23 GMT -8
Ned4,
Is that your point? Oh and btw...I would love it if the BEast had its own network and announcers so when we clothes-line a quarterback we can pretend it was the quarterback's fault for standing upright and have the officials politely agree in front of our home crowd. Just better hope you don't sever the quarterback's spinal cord.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Sept 2, 2012 19:57:35 GMT -8
Did you guys miss the New Weasel on the show? I'm still laughing. If you can't win, join up as a cheerleader.
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Sept 2, 2012 20:07:07 GMT -8
The "new weasel" is on Time Warner Channels 818 and 819. hoping to be known as the PAC-12 networks....the most incredible, fantastic human endeavor ever created.
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Post by missiontrails on Sept 2, 2012 22:25:19 GMT -8
Dammit!! I was at McDonald's last week, and that McDonald's employee behind the McDonald's counter did NOT disclose to me that he was being paid by McDonald's. What!?! Am I supposed to just ASSUME?!? There oughta be a law! Where's Turko?
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Post by smoothcat on Sept 2, 2012 22:31:15 GMT -8
I had no problem with bias, it was all the mistakes that bothered me, seemed like he was wrong more often than he was right. Agreed, Calabro seemed like he couldn't even see the field or comprehend what was going on, his performance was outright embarrassing. Archuleta I thought did a good job as a color commentator. |
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Post by aardvark on Sept 2, 2012 22:37:13 GMT -8
I had no problem with bias, it was all the mistakes that bothered me, seemed like he was wrong more often than he was right. Agreed, Calabro seemed like he couldn't even see the field or comprehend what was going on, his performance was outright embarrassing. Archuleta I thought did a good job as a color commentator. Maybe Calabro was watching the game through the same feed I was--a small, non HD (the MTN-esque) picture. |
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Post by mightymightyaztecs on Sept 2, 2012 22:40:25 GMT -8
Unwad your panties. I didn't detect any bias. I thought they were more knowledgeable than the mtn announcers actually. Knew about the Aztec team and even mentioned notable alums like Sipes when he was on screen. I know that's all stuff they get in the pregame media guide but it seemed like the mtn guys either never knew or bothered to read up. The play by play guy was terrible though. Kept getting calls wrong all night long.
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Post by therealeman on Sept 2, 2012 22:40:34 GMT -8
Meh, i just use the mute button.
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Post by bschmurda on Sept 2, 2012 22:42:59 GMT -8
DAFUCK did you expect ?
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