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Post by steveaztec on Sept 8, 2009 8:46:38 GMT -8
On the subject of the other board. I still lurk often over there at Aztectalk. I did a search on Chuck Long... There have been over 100 comments on Chuck Long since August 12. That is comments with the name Chuck Long in them, not to mention insinuations (which might bring the comments to around 150) about him and staff. Its funny, none of them have been moved to other threads, but mine was? If the MOD over there doesn't agree with you, he just moves it or deletes it. So I now call that board...."The Lib Board". Not for most of the posters, but the actions of the MOD, who like all far left whacko libs uses power in the incorrect way and abuses the power when he disagrees with someone.  Hey, don't toss out this comment of mine in the wind. Keep in mind... -Zip is a ultra lib and does not like conservative statements. In fact they really irritate him, so he becomes the MOD and cuts out the Political Board. Isn't that what libs do, try to silence their opponents? -Zip didn't like Chuck Long and was very vocal about it. Probably in the "Long Hater" club. He didn't like anyone making good (and correct/honest) comments on Chuck Long, so he started moving my posts to silence me. Exactly what the far left do when challenged. -Zip is an ultra lib and I am a conservative and he changes only my post about Chuck Long (which didn't even support Chuck Long) to another thread to make it look like I started a love Chuck Long thread (without even letting a poster with 50,000 posts and active for 7 years and finished up 2nd in the best Aztec Poster poll two months ago know he was going to do it). Yes....Zip has learned well from his buddies Barrack Hussein Obama----Van Jones----Ted Kennedy----Rev. Wright----Nancy Pelosi----Bill Clinton. If you don't like what your opponent is saying and have the power......do anything you can to shut them up. Only one side can be heard in the world of far left Libs. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 8, 2009 9:27:48 GMT -8
What I don't understand is just how Zip became owner of the new board. Well, let me rephrase that. I became owner of AztecMesa simply by going through the ProBoards website creation process. It's free; anyone can do it. You could start a site called FingerLickinGoodGooberPies.proboards.com if you wanted to. There must have been a deal between the administrator of AztecTalk.org and Zip to do an orchestrated hand-off. That way a huge percentage of the members of the old board would be sure to sign up on the new one. As long as you are going to have an off-topic forum, it seems strange not to allow people to express themselves on political matters. Since politics concerns so many aspects of life, the exclusion of politics seems artificial to me. And let's consider this; will the new board not allow mention of things such as Congressional hearings related to the BCS monopoly? Such a topic is obviously of interest to Aztec fans. And when Congress gets involved, it can't get much more political. Same with discussion of the San Diego City Council and Qualcomm Stadium. Will that topic be banned from AztecTalk.com as well? I don't get it. AzWm |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 8, 2009 10:13:56 GMT -8
What I don't understand is just how Zip became owner of the new board. Well, let me rephrase that. I became owner of AztecMesa simply by going through the ProBoards website creation process. It's free; anyone can do it. You could start a site called FingerLickinGoodGooberPies.proboards.com if you wanted to. There must have been a deal between the administrator of AztecTalk.org and Zip to do an orchestrated hand-off. That way a huge percentage of the members of the old board would be sure to sign up on the new one. As long as you are going to have an off-topic forum, it seems strange not to allow people to express themselves on political matters. Since politics concerns so many aspects of life, the exclusion of politics seems artificial to me. And let's consider this; will the new board not allow mention of things such as Congressional hearings related to the BCS monopoly? Such a topic is obviously of interest to Aztec fans. And when Congress gets involved, it can't get much more political. Same with discussion of the San Diego City Council and Qualcomm Stadium. Will that topic be banned from AztecTalk.com as well? I don't get it. AzWm I am afraid that you do get it and that you understand it is a problem. |
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Post by davdesid on Sept 8, 2009 13:09:44 GMT -8
>>>If you don't like what your opponent is saying and have the power......do anything you can to shut them up.<<<
That (and the other points you made) is why I call it the Ayatollah board.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Sept 8, 2009 15:27:45 GMT -8
And let's consider this; will the new board not allow mention of things such as Congressional hearings related to the BCS monopoly? Such a topic is obviously of interest to Aztec fans. And when Congress gets involved, it can't get much more political. Same with discussion of the San Diego City Council and Qualcomm Stadium. Will that topic be banned from AztecTalk.com as well? I don't get it. AzWm While such discussions are "political", they are by definition non-partisan, given that it's Hatch who is leading the charge on hearings and has the support of MWC fans no matter which party they belong to. Same would be the case with the City Council and the stadium. On that basis, I would not delete such posts from the O-T forum unless someone decided to disparage this or that elected official based upon their party affiliation. But then, discussions of the City Council and the Chargers should be on the Chargers forum and you'd have to deal with Vince, whose rules are stricter than mine. Steve's nonsense about Zip being a far-left whacko has no standing. He's moderately left at the most. He simply would rather not see arguments on his forum and politics and religion will always result in arguments. It's ridiculous for Steve to claim that Zip did what he did simply because Zip supposedly disagrees with Steve's politics. But if I had to make a comment on that, why is it that when the right-wingnuts play victim politics it's okay, but when liberals do it, the right-wingnuts are all over them? My role, as defined by Zip, is simple and not so simple. Zip says no politics or religion. I'm left to my own to define that and the way I've defined it is if someone offers a link to another forum that has political arguments as Joe did today (and as I explained to Pooh over the weekend), that's okay. Offering links to specific political arguments in an attempt to carry it over to AT is not okay. I expected I'd get my chops busted by Pooh and Bruce when I was made Mod and I did, but assuming it's somehow political is ridiculous. Vince is running the Chargers forum and he's at least as conservative as Steve or Pooh, albeit more rational (sorry, couldn't resist taking the shot). =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Sept 8, 2009 15:34:07 GMT -8
>>>If you don't like what your opponent is saying and have the power......do anything you can to shut them up.<<< That (and the other points you made) is why I call it the Ayatollah board. Dave, you don't understand what a really restrictive forum is. On the really restrictive forums, the moderator reviews each post before he or she allows it to see the light of day. And worse than that was a BBS I was on for a brief period back in the '80s. A friend of mine was made the moderator of the jokes forum and at some point he posted a joke that was slightly ethnic in content - nothing derogatory. The guy who ran the BBS fired him as Mod and banned him from the board because he "didn't want a couple hundred blacks rioting in front of his house". If AT were the sort of forum you claim, Zip would be allowing liberals to post politics but not conservatives - based upon Steve's nonsensical view that Zip is some far left whacko. Take my word for it; if anything by anyone along the political spectrum posts something political, I will delete it. Doesn't matter if they're left or right. I have Zip's full concurrence on that. =Bob |
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Post by davdesid on Sept 8, 2009 15:34:07 GMT -8
William,
I don't know if you have to pay anything out of pocket for this forum. I thought there was some kind of fee attached, at least at one time.
Back during the old Aztec.com (pre Aztec.org) days, I actually sent Zip (Edward) a check for a few bucks to help out.
If you could use a donation, let me know by PM. I'd be glad to help out, especially since the libs seem to want to kill it.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Sept 8, 2009 15:43:24 GMT -8
-Zip is a ultra lib and does not like conservative statements. In fact they really irritate him, so he becomes the MOD and cuts out the Political Board. Isn't that what libs do, try to silence their opponents?
Um, how does any discussion of head coaches at SDSU become a liberal v. conservative debate? That's dumber than snot.
-Zip didn't like Chuck Long and was very vocal about it. Probably in the "Long Hater" club. He didn't like anyone making good (and correct/honest) comments on Chuck Long, so he started moving my posts to silence me. Exactly what the far left do when challenged.
That's more or less a reasonable argument because it has nothing to do with Zip's political views, which I doubt you know.
-Zip is an ultra lib and I am a conservative and he changes only my post about Chuck Long (which didn't even support Chuck Long) to another thread to make it look like I started a love Chuck Long thread (without even letting a poster with 50,000 posts and active for 7 years and finished up 2nd in the best Aztec Poster poll two months ago know he was going to do it).
And I will agree that he blew it by not having an opening statement about splitting the thread and why he was doing it. But claiming that he did it because you're a right-wingnut who believes everything Glenn Beck tells you in so far out in left field that it's over the bleachers.
Yes....Zip has learned well from his buddies Barrack Hussein Obama----Van Jones----Ted Kennedy----Rev. Wright----Nancy Pelosi----Bill Clinton.
If you don't like what your opponent is saying and have the power......do anything you can to shut them up. Only one side can be heard in the world of far left Libs.
I see. So what you are arguing is that conservatives supported keeping Long for another season while the liberals wanted to can him. Gee, that makes a bunch of sense given that I was one of your only allies in arguing that he should have a 4th season and given that some of the most right-wing people on AT wanted him gone.
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 8, 2009 15:49:46 GMT -8
And let's consider this; will the new board not allow mention of things such as Congressional hearings related to the BCS monopoly? Such a topic is obviously of interest to Aztec fans. And when Congress gets involved, it can't get much more political. Same with discussion of the San Diego City Council and Qualcomm Stadium. Will that topic be banned from AztecTalk.com as well? I don't get it. AzWm While such discussions are "political", they are by definition non-partisan, given that it's Hatch who is leading the charge on hearings and has the support of MWC fans no matter which party they belong to. Same would be the case with the City Council and the stadium. On that basis, I would not delete such posts from the O-T forum unless someone decided to disparage this or that elected official based upon their party affiliation. But then, discussions of the City Council and the Chargers should be on the Chargers forum and you'd have to deal with Vince, whose rules are stricter than mine. Steve's nonsense about Zip being a far-left whacko has no standing. He's moderately left at the most. He simply would rather not see arguments on his forum and politics and religion will always result in arguments. It's ridiculous for Steve to claim that Zip did what he did simply because Zip supposedly disagrees with Steve's politics. But if I had to make a comment on that, why is it that when the right-wingnuts play victim politics it's okay, but when liberals do it, the right-wingnuts are all over them? My role, as defined by Zip, is simple and not so simple. Zip says no politics or religion. I'm left to my own to define that and the way I've defined it is if someone offers a link to another forum that has political arguments as Joe did today (and as I explained to Pooh over the weekend), that's okay. Offering links to specific political arguments in an attempt to carry it over to AT is not okay. I expected I'd get my chops busted by Pooh and Bruce when I was made Mod and I did, but assuming it's somehow political is ridiculous. Vince is running the Chargers forum and he's at least as conservative as Steve or Pooh, albeit more rational (sorry, couldn't resist taking the shot). =Bob Pitiful! |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 8, 2009 15:54:17 GMT -8
>>>If you don't like what your opponent is saying and have the power......do anything you can to shut them up.<<< That (and the other points you made) is why I call it the Ayatollah board. Dave, you don't understand what a really restrictive forum is. On the really restrictive forums, the moderator reviews each post before he or she allows it to see the light of day. And worse than that was a BBS I was on for a brief period back in the '80s. A friend of mine was made the moderator of the jokes forum and at some point he posted a joke that was slightly ethnic in content - nothing derogatory. The guy who ran the BBS fired him as Mod and banned him from the board because he "didn't want a couple hundred blacks rioting in front of his house". If AT were the sort of forum you claim, Zip would be allowing liberals to post politics but not conservatives - based upon Steve's nonsensical view that Zip is some far left whacko. Take my word for it; if anything by anyone along the political spectrum posts something political, I will delete it. Doesn't matter if they're left or right. I have Zip's full concurrence on that. =Bob Somehow I can't help but think that when the news and public opinion are overwhelming anti-Obama and things are sinking that so badly that Zip would think of joining MSNBC and the NYT in not allowing anything truthful about Obama and the Dems see the light of day. It is really a hoot to darken politics in general when all the news and opinion is against you. |
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Post by steveaztec on Sept 8, 2009 16:49:22 GMT -8
And let's consider this; will the new board not allow mention of things such as Congressional hearings related to the BCS monopoly? Such a topic is obviously of interest to Aztec fans. And when Congress gets involved, it can't get much more political. Same with discussion of the San Diego City Council and Qualcomm Stadium. Will that topic be banned from AztecTalk.com as well? I don't get it. AzWm While such discussions are "political", they are by definition non-partisan, given that it's Hatch who is leading the charge on hearings and has the support of MWC fans no matter which party they belong to. Same would be the case with the City Council and the stadium. On that basis, I would not delete such posts from the O-T forum unless someone decided to disparage this or that elected official based upon their party affiliation. But then, discussions of the City Council and the Chargers should be on the Chargers forum and you'd have to deal with Vince, whose rules are stricter than mine. Steve's nonsense about Zip being a far-left whacko has no standing. He's moderately left at the most. He simply would rather not see arguments on his forum and politics and religion will always result in arguments. It's ridiculous for Steve to claim that Zip did what he did simply because Zip supposedly disagrees with Steve's politics. But if I had to make a comment on that, why is it that when the right-wingnuts play victim politics it's okay, but when liberals do it, the right-wingnuts are all over them? My role, as defined by Zip, is simple and not so simple. Zip says no politics or religion. I'm left to my own to define that and the way I've defined it is if someone offers a link to another forum that has political arguments as Joe did today (and as I explained to Pooh over the weekend), that's okay. Offering links to specific political arguments in an attempt to carry it over to AT is not okay. I expected I'd get my chops busted by Pooh and Bruce when I was made Mod and I did, but assuming it's somehow political is ridiculous. Vince is running the Chargers forum and he's at least as conservative as Steve or Pooh, albeit more rational (sorry, couldn't resist taking the shot). =Bob I didn't say Zip moved my post because of my political views. I said Zip moved my post because he disagreed with me. And my point above was very clear. I said the MOD of the board. That is Zip......I didn't mention Vinnie, or you, or Psst13.....Only Zip. |
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Post by steveaztec on Sept 8, 2009 16:54:08 GMT -8
-Zip is a ultra lib and does not like conservative statements. In fact they really irritate him, so he becomes the MOD and cuts out the Political Board. Isn't that what libs do, try to silence their opponents? Um, how does any discussion of head coaches at SDSU become a liberal v. conservative debate? That's dumber than snot.-Zip didn't like Chuck Long and was very vocal about it. Probably in the "Long Hater" club. He didn't like anyone making good (and correct/honest) comments on Chuck Long, so he started moving my posts to silence me. Exactly what the far left do when challenged. That's more or less a reasonable argument because it has nothing to do with Zip's political views, which I doubt you know.-Zip is an ultra lib and I am a conservative and he changes only my post about Chuck Long (which didn't even support Chuck Long) to another thread to make it look like I started a love Chuck Long thread (without even letting a poster with 50,000 posts and active for 7 years and finished up 2nd in the best Aztec Poster poll two months ago know he was going to do it). And I will agree that he blew it by not having an opening statement about splitting the thread and why he was doing it. But claiming that he did it because you're a right-wingnut who believes everything Glenn Beck tells you in so far out in left field that it's over the bleachers.Yes....Zip has learned well from his buddies Barrack Hussein Obama----Van Jones----Ted Kennedy----Rev. Wright----Nancy Pelosi----Bill Clinton. If you don't like what your opponent is saying and have the power......do anything you can to shut them up. Only one side can be heard in the world of far left Libs. I see. So what you are arguing is that conservatives supported keeping Long for another season while the liberals wanted to can him. Gee, that makes a bunch of sense given that I was one of your only allies in arguing that he should have a 4th season and given that some of the most right-wing people on AT wanted him gone.=Bob Fact is... You can make comments like above (which I disagree with all of your points by the way) on this board. The MOD on this board will let you talk and not delete or move your post to make it out of context. Not so on Aztectalk.com. If the MOD disagrees with you or doesn't like your post, he will delete it or move it to change the message of the post.....(Aztec Sports Or Otherwise) I'm sure you get that, don't you =Bob? |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Sept 8, 2009 17:06:28 GMT -8
While such discussions are "political", they are by definition non-partisan, given that it's Hatch who is leading the charge on hearings and has the support of MWC fans no matter which party they belong to. Same would be the case with the City Council and the stadium. On that basis, I would not delete such posts from the O-T forum unless someone decided to disparage this or that elected official based upon their party affiliation. But then, discussions of the City Council and the Chargers should be on the Chargers forum and you'd have to deal with Vince, whose rules are stricter than mine. Steve's nonsense about Zip being a far-left whacko has no standing. He's moderately left at the most. He simply would rather not see arguments on his forum and politics and religion will always result in arguments. It's ridiculous for Steve to claim that Zip did what he did simply because Zip supposedly disagrees with Steve's politics. But if I had to make a comment on that, why is it that when the right-wingnuts play victim politics it's okay, but when liberals do it, the right-wingnuts are all over them? My role, as defined by Zip, is simple and not so simple. Zip says no politics or religion. I'm left to my own to define that and the way I've defined it is if someone offers a link to another forum that has political arguments as Joe did today (and as I explained to Pooh over the weekend), that's okay. Offering links to specific political arguments in an attempt to carry it over to AT is not okay. I expected I'd get my chops busted by Pooh and Bruce when I was made Mod and I did, but assuming it's somehow political is ridiculous. Vince is running the Chargers forum and he's at least as conservative as Steve or Pooh, albeit more rational (sorry, couldn't resist taking the shot). =Bob Pitiful! You know where I think you should put your putter, but most likely it's where you put it every time you're facing a 10 foot putt. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Sept 8, 2009 17:08:28 GMT -8
Dave, you don't understand what a really restrictive forum is. On the really restrictive forums, the moderator reviews each post before he or she allows it to see the light of day. And worse than that was a BBS I was on for a brief period back in the '80s. A friend of mine was made the moderator of the jokes forum and at some point he posted a joke that was slightly ethnic in content - nothing derogatory. The guy who ran the BBS fired him as Mod and banned him from the board because he "didn't want a couple hundred blacks rioting in front of his house". If AT were the sort of forum you claim, Zip would be allowing liberals to post politics but not conservatives - based upon Steve's nonsensical view that Zip is some far left whacko. Take my word for it; if anything by anyone along the political spectrum posts something political, I will delete it. Doesn't matter if they're left or right. I have Zip's full concurrence on that. =Bob Somehow I can't help but think that when the news and public opinion are overwhelming anti-Obama and things are sinking that so badly that Zip would think of joining MSNBC and the NYT in not allowing anything truthful about Obama and the Dems see the light of day. It is really a hoot to darken politics in general when all the news and opinion is against you. Pobrecita. You don't get to spew venom as you did on the old forum. Damn, that must be a bummer for you. You don't get to slug down margaritas at the 19th hole and then whine on a political forum. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Sept 8, 2009 17:10:16 GMT -8
I didn't say Zip moved my post because of my political views. I said Zip moved my post because he disagreed with me. Crap. If that was the case, you wouldn't have brought up Zip's political views. You clearly claimed that he moved your post because, at least in your view, he's a liberal while you're a right-wingnut. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Sept 8, 2009 17:18:36 GMT -8
-Zip is a ultra lib and does not like conservative statements. In fact they really irritate him, so he becomes the MOD and cuts out the Political Board. Isn't that what libs do, try to silence their opponents? Um, how does any discussion of head coaches at SDSU become a liberal v. conservative debate? That's dumber than snot.-Zip didn't like Chuck Long and was very vocal about it. Probably in the "Long Hater" club. He didn't like anyone making good (and correct/honest) comments on Chuck Long, so he started moving my posts to silence me. Exactly what the far left do when challenged. That's more or less a reasonable argument because it has nothing to do with Zip's political views, which I doubt you know.-Zip is an ultra lib and I am a conservative and he changes only my post about Chuck Long (which didn't even support Chuck Long) to another thread to make it look like I started a love Chuck Long thread (without even letting a poster with 50,000 posts and active for 7 years and finished up 2nd in the best Aztec Poster poll two months ago know he was going to do it). And I will agree that he blew it by not having an opening statement about splitting the thread and why he was doing it. But claiming that he did it because you're a right-wingnut who believes everything Glenn Beck tells you in so far out in left field that it's over the bleachers.Yes....Zip has learned well from his buddies Barrack Hussein Obama----Van Jones----Ted Kennedy----Rev. Wright----Nancy Pelosi----Bill Clinton. If you don't like what your opponent is saying and have the power......do anything you can to shut them up. Only one side can be heard in the world of far left Libs. I see. So what you are arguing is that conservatives supported keeping Long for another season while the liberals wanted to can him. Gee, that makes a bunch of sense given that I was one of your only allies in arguing that he should have a 4th season and given that some of the most right-wing people on AT wanted him gone.=Bob Fact is... You can make comments like above (which I disagree with all of your points by the way) on this board. The MOD on this board will let you talk and not delete or move your post to make it out of context. Not so on Aztectalk.com. If the MOD disagrees with you or doesn't like your post, he will delete it or move it to change the message of the post.....(Aztec Sports Or Otherwise) I'm sure you get that, don't you =Bob? You wrote: -Zip is an ultra lib and I am a conservative and he changes only my post about Chuck Long (which didn't even support Chuck Long) to another thread to make it look like I started a love Chuck Long thread Please explain to me how I should interpret that statement other than assuming you believe Zip moved your post because he doesn't agree with your political views. I understand the games you like to play, Steve, and on this right-wing dominated forum, you are playing the victim's game because you know that Pooh, Dave and William will offer you all sorts of sympathy that you don't deserve. Note that I did write that Zip was mistaken in not explaining to you, either by PM or in public, why he moved it. But while I consider it a mistake for him to have not done that, I do not believe for a second that it was done for political reasons and your whining on here that it was done as such is rather pathetic. =Bob |
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Post by uwaztec on Sept 8, 2009 17:28:27 GMT -8
Yea...but look on the bright side..Aztec Joe is mostly gone!! The guy was allowed to run roughshod over the last board. He even made comments over the last 3 years that could get you arrested. Somebody had to get a handle on that guy.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Sept 8, 2009 18:30:35 GMT -8
Yea...but look on the bright side..Aztec Joe is mostly gone!! The guy was allowed to run roughshod over the last board. He even made comments over the last 3 years that could get you arrested. Somebody had to get a handle on that guy. As far as I'm concerned, Pooh is far worse than Joe because Pooh is not the idiot that Joe is. Pooh loves to play his games and has tried to game me up one side and down the other on the AT Off-topic forum and is pissed that I won't allow him to do so. Needless to say, he has resorted to the "free speech" argument as well as the "victim" argument in a ridiculous claim that the 1st Amendment guarantees he can write whatever he wants. Typical of the right wing - deny others their speech rights while claiming that he's being persecuted. Simple fact is this - Zip runs the board, Zip makes the rules. The rules are "no politics or religion". Pooh pushes it because he always games the system. Steve pushes it because he has some sort of persecution complex. As a friend of ours at DPLU likes to say - "life is short, snakes are long". =Bob |
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Post by steveaztec on Sept 8, 2009 20:05:05 GMT -8
I didn't say Zip moved my post because of my political views. I said Zip moved my post because he disagreed with me. Crap. If that was the case, you wouldn't have brought up Zip's political views. You clearly claimed that he moved your post because, at least in your view, he's a liberal while you're a right-wingnut. =Bob None of your statement is true. I brought up Zips political views because he didn't want a political board. I made that very clear. He didn't want a political board, because he didn't want to hear the other side.......only Far Left views. I clearly claimed that Zip moved my post because he disagreed with me on Chuck Long. I just find it funny that there have been over 150 posts on Chuck Long since I left the board and none of them have been moved......Why? |
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Post by steveaztec on Sept 8, 2009 20:09:44 GMT -8
Yea...but look on the bright side..Aztec Joe is mostly gone!! The guy was allowed to run roughshod over the last board. He even made comments over the last 3 years that could get you arrested. Somebody had to get a handle on that guy. As far as I'm concerned, Pooh is far worse than Joe because Pooh is not the idiot that Joe is. Pooh loves to play his games and has tried to game me up one side and down the other on the AT Off-topic forum and is pissed that I won't allow him to do so. Needless to say, he has resorted to the "free speech" argument as well as the "victim" argument in a ridiculous claim that the 1st Amendment guarantees he can write whatever he wants. Typical of the right wing - deny others their speech rights while claiming that he's being persecuted. Simple fact is this - Zip runs the board, Zip makes the rules. The rules are "no politics or religion". Pooh pushes it because he always games the system. Steve pushes it because he has some sort of persecution complex. As a friend of ours at DPLU likes to say - "life is short, snakes are long". =Bob What did I "push" on that board? I had an opinion on an Aztec coach and expressed it. That is "pushing" what? Bottom line =Bob. You are right.....Zips board, Zips rules. I told him that in my PM. He left it up to me to decide....I did. I just want to know why he hasn't enforced his rules on everyone else like he did me. So lets see Bob......150 other posters have posted pretty much the same thing I did and didn't have their posts moved........But mine got moved.......So I? have a persecution complex? No, no persecution complex....I think it is pretty clear that I am on to something.  Nice logic =Bob. |
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