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Post by pokinsky on Sept 27, 2011 11:24:21 GMT -8
FYI:
We have had numerous complaints about losing out on bigs for the 2011 class. But it looks like it was a blessing in disguise based on the current status of a few of those recruits.
6'10 260 Kevin Johnson (Seton Hall) ... still isn't eligible, pending
6'7 Damiene Cain (Colorado) quit the basketball team to focus on academics
6'9 Ronnie Stevens (Hawaii) ruled ineligible, will play at a JC
It also looks like the 2011 bigs that we did get (Deshawn Stephens and Garrett Green) will be much more ready to play next year.
Has anyone heard the status of Deshawn following surgery? I think he should be back practicing very soon ... if not already?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2011 11:38:21 GMT -8
Has anyone heard the status of Deshawn following surgery? I think he should be back practicing very soon ... if not already? From his twitter, he said practice was "intense" yesterday - so did a few other players. |
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Post by Morpheus on Sept 27, 2011 12:14:55 GMT -8
Maybe the staff knew a little bit more these potenital issues than our board "insiders."
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Post by rmksdsu30 on Sept 27, 2011 12:19:21 GMT -8
deshawn was supposed to be out till november is he already practaing?/
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Post by BBallAnalyst on Sept 27, 2011 12:27:42 GMT -8
I don't think Bigs will be an issue in our Conference because there aren't too many dominant Big men....Drew Gordon is decent but he's not a 1 rd pick type of talent. Our guards are going to be overwhelming. If our bigs could just be serviceable, we'll be just fine.
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Post by sdbiased on Sept 27, 2011 12:29:37 GMT -8
So you just looked at the bad ones?
Cheikh Mbodj- Cincy going to be a big part of a Cincy team on the rise
Ryan Anderson- Going to be a beast face up 4 for BC
Robert Garrett- My pick to win WCC FOY.
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Post by dlangford9 on Sept 27, 2011 12:34:16 GMT -8
Maybe the staff knew a little bit more these potenital issues than our board "insiders." In Fisher I trust. I have realized over the past couple years that he is not some 40-somethin', up-start coach. He has been doing this for a very long time. He knows the ins and outs. He understands what it takes to win "college" games. He knows how to get the kids to respond. We are very fortunate to have him. |
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Post by dlangford9 on Sept 27, 2011 12:35:47 GMT -8
So you just looked at the bad ones? Cheikh Mbodj- Cincy going to be a big part of a Cincy team on the rise Ryan Anderson- Going to be a beast face up 4 for BC Robert Garrett- My pick to win WCC FOY. Just because he didn't get them, doesn't mean he didn't want them. |
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Sept 27, 2011 12:40:00 GMT -8
I'll say thanks to Fisher instead of some mythical human creation. Coach deserves the credit.
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Post by BBallAnalyst on Sept 27, 2011 12:40:41 GMT -8
So you just looked at the bad ones? Cheikh Mbodj- Cincy going to be a big part of a Cincy team on the rise Ryan Anderson- Going to be a beast face up 4 for BC Robert Garrett- My pick to win WCC FOY. Ryan Anderson went to the ACC...it's not like we just missed out. He went to a power conference |
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Post by nonpostpete on Sept 27, 2011 16:22:08 GMT -8
So you just looked at the bad ones? Cheikh Mbodj- Cincy going to be a big part of a Cincy team on the rise Ryan Anderson- Going to be a beast face up 4 for BC Robert Garrett- My pick to win WCC FOY. I don't think that the point of Pokinsy's post was to suggest that every single big who was recruited by SDSU and went elsewhere has turned out to have issues. But, it looks like that was the case with the three mentioned in his post and that there is no need for anyone to fret about missing out on Kevin Johnson, Damiene Cain or Ronnie Stevens. |
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Post by aztecbruce on Sept 27, 2011 17:17:25 GMT -8
I don't think Bigs will be an issue in our Conference because there aren't too many dominant Big men....Drew Gordon is decent but he's not a 1 rd pick type of talent. Our guards are going to be overwhelming. If our bigs could just be serviceable, we'll be just fine. I disagree on Gordon. He played well last year and no doubt should be better this year. Size is good. Late 1st is possiblity. Too bad he didn't come here. |
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Post by Rider Of Rahon on Sept 27, 2011 21:56:04 GMT -8
I don't think Bigs will be an issue in our Conference because there aren't too many dominant Big men....Drew Gordon is decent but he's not a 1 rd pick type of talent. Our guards are going to be overwhelming. If our bigs could just be serviceable, we'll be just fine. I disagree on Gordon. He played well last year and no doubt should be better this year. Size is good. Late 1st is possiblity. Too bad he didn't come here. Gordon doesn't have an NBA position. His offensive game is too limited outside of 5 feet. Not the best work ethic either. He will be lucky to be drafted. I will go on record saying he won't be drafted (assuming it remains 2 rounds) |
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Post by sdbiased on Sept 27, 2011 22:44:12 GMT -8
I disagree on Gordon. He played well last year and no doubt should be better this year. Size is good. Late 1st is possiblity. Too bad he didn't come here. Gordon doesn't have an NBA position. His offensive game is too limited outside of 5 feet. Not the best work ethic either. He will be lucky to be drafted. I will go on record saying he won't be drafted (assuming it remains 2 rounds) Gordon has the size for the 4 has a very good post game, gets offensive rebounds, and is exellent rebounder, weakness is post passing, defense, and mid range jumper (the easiest tool to teach that happens often in the NBA). |
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Post by billycarl on Sept 27, 2011 23:07:46 GMT -8
I disagree on Gordon. He played well last year and no doubt should be better this year. Size is good. Late 1st is possiblity. Too bad he didn't come here. Gordon doesn't have an NBA position. His offensive game is too limited outside of 5 feet. Not the best work ethic either. He will be lucky to be drafted. I will go on record saying he won't be drafted (assuming it remains 2 rounds) You will be wrong on that one. |
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Post by Rider Of Rahon on Sept 28, 2011 6:19:15 GMT -8
Gordon doesn't have an NBA position. His offensive game is too limited outside of 5 feet. Not the best work ethic either. He will be lucky to be drafted. I will go on record saying he won't be drafted (assuming it remains 2 rounds) Gordon has the size for the 4 has a very good post game, gets offensive rebounds, and is exellent rebounder, weakness is post passing, defense, and mid range jumper (the easiest tool to teach that happens often in the NBA). Here is what you don't get -- it dates back to high school where all he would work on was his Jump shot and no post moves. it is still that way today. There is no way anyone who has watched him play thinks he has a solidest game. Same move EVERY time. Turnaround fade away right handed hook shot. He has never developed anything more. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2011 7:16:02 GMT -8
I don't think Bigs will be an issue in our Conference because there aren't too many dominant Big men....Drew Gordon is decent but he's not a 1 rd pick type of talent. Our guards are going to be overwhelming. If our bigs could just be serviceable, we'll be just fine. I disagree on Gordon. He played well last year and no doubt should be better this year. Size is good. Late 1st is possiblity. Too bad he didn't come here. +1 Only I think mid-1st is a possibility. |
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Post by localsonly on Sept 28, 2011 7:25:06 GMT -8
Gordon has the size for the 4 has a very good post game, gets offensive rebounds, and is exellent rebounder, weakness is post passing, defense, and mid range jumper (the easiest tool to teach that happens often in the NBA). Here is what you don't get -- it dates back to high school where all he would work on was his Jump shot and no post moves. it is still that way today. There is no way anyone who has watched him play thinks he has a solidest game. Same move EVERY time. Turnaround fade away right handed hook shot. He has never developed anything more. And here I thought sour grapes were the staple of UNLV "we didn't have a high interest in that guy..."! Had Gordon become an Aztec he would have been the ticket to continue the ride back to the dance. He would have been the Aztecs best player, rebounder, post defender etc. etc. My guess? he'll go for 25 and 10 both games against the Aztecs with NMex winning big at home and maybe here too. Pros? maybe late 1st. |
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Post by Rider Of Rahon on Sept 28, 2011 8:52:33 GMT -8
Here is what you don't get -- it dates back to high school where all he would work on was his Jump shot and no post moves. it is still that way today. There is no way anyone who has watched him play thinks he has a solidest game. Same move EVERY time. Turnaround fade away right handed hook shot. He has never developed anything more. And here I thought sour grapes were the staple of UNLV "we didn't have a high interest in that guy..."! Had Gordon become an Aztec he would have been the ticket to continue the ride back to the dance. He would have been the Aztecs best player, rebounder, post defender etc. etc. My guess? he'll go for 25 and 10 both games against the Aztecs with NMex winning big at home and maybe here too. Pros? maybe late 1st. No sour grapes. Who was the last MWC big man - Bogut was a top 5 pick wherever he went - that has had NBA success? Not saying anything about Gordon as a successful college player. I am simply saying his game doesn't translate to the next level. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2011 9:31:36 GMT -8
And here I thought sour grapes were the staple of UNLV "we didn't have a high interest in that guy..."! Had Gordon become an Aztec he would have been the ticket to continue the ride back to the dance. He would have been the Aztecs best player, rebounder, post defender etc. etc. My guess? he'll go for 25 and 10 both games against the Aztecs with NMex winning big at home and maybe here too. Pros? maybe late 1st. No sour grapes. Who was the last MWC big man - Bogut was a top 5 pick wherever he went - that has had NBA success? Not saying anything about Gordon as a successful college player. I am simply saying his game doesn't translate to the next level. Bogut was the number 1 overall pick and is having s very nice career with the bucks |
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