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Post by bearfoot on Sept 26, 2011 13:12:13 GMT -8
Maybe Tim Sullivan should have taken this into consideration before he threw a tantrum about Rocky's not allowing the players to be interviewed: "In the locker room after the game, many players were practically inconsolable. They were in such bad shape emotionally that head coach Rocky Long even decided to make them unavailable for questions from the media afterward. Normally, win or lose, Aztec players dutifully talk about their performance with reporters. “They were very emotional after the game, depressed, disappointed, upset, however you want to say,” said Long, whose team dropped to 3-1 after Saturday’s 28-7 defeat. “It was a very emotional locker room after the game and not in a good sense.” They probably would have done a “poor job” of answering questions, Long said, so he kept them behind closed doors. “It’s my job to protect them,” Long said Sunday. “This is not pro football.” Pathetic Tim, just pathetic. Kman out +1 He practically call 'em babies. I wish Coach Long would have called him out, the way OSU's Gundy called out that reporter who used similar language towards the cowboys after a tough loss in 07. youtu.be/aoMmbUmKN0EHang in there fellas. You're 0-0 in MWC play. And that's all that matters now. You guys can still bring the hardware home! Go Aztecs! Sullivan made no reference to the players, accept that he would have liked to have spoken with them. Rocky said they were a mess, so perhaps your gripe is with him.
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 26, 2011 13:16:11 GMT -8
Sullivan considers himself an intellectual of the highest level ;D And to think that they gave him the job when Ed Graney was already on their staff. What a joke! I have no issue with Sullivan but the biggest mistake the U-T has made was to let Ed G go. That dude is the very best. Do you follow him on twitter, he is very brief yet direct.
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Post by zbt69 on Sept 26, 2011 14:55:23 GMT -8
Anyone who is complaining about the players not being able to take part in a press conference after a game has never played in a sporting event that ment everything to them. These players have been looking forward to this game as soon as Hoke left them. They didn't play their best and they know it, which makes it hurt even more. Now we will find out what this team is made of and how good the coaching staff is at getting them refocused. It works in their favor that we have two weeks to get ready.
Go Aztecs beat TCU
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 26, 2011 15:04:45 GMT -8
Anyone who is complaining about the players not being able to take part in a press conference after a game has never played in a sporting event that ment everything to them. These players have been looking forward to this game as soon as Hoke left them. They didn't play their best and they know it, which makes it hurt even more. Now we will find out what this team is made of and how good the coaching staff is at getting them refocused. It works in their favor that we have two weeks to get ready. Go Aztecs beat TCU I do agree that the players had a whole lot invested in this game, perhaps too much. However, Burris & Lindley are mature men and I'm sure could have pulled it together enough to give the local press an idea of how hard their poor play impacted the rest of the players.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2011 16:07:04 GMT -8
Anyone who is complaining about the players not being able to take part in a press conference after a game has never played in a sporting event that ment everything to them. These players have been looking forward to this game as soon as Hoke left them. They didn't play their best and they know it, which makes it hurt even more. Now we will find out what this team is made of and how good the coaching staff is at getting them refocused. It works in their favor that we have two weeks to get ready. Go Aztecs beat TCU I do agree that the players had a whole lot invested in this game, perhaps too much. However, Burris & Lindley are mature men and I'm sure could have pulled it together enough to give the local press an idea of how hard their poor play impacted the rest of the players. Why is it so important to you that they meet the local press directly after the game? (Especially since you seem to understand how much they had invested in this game.) Sullivan's reaction was completely unnecessary and, had he not had such a little fit, it would have existed as the non-issue that it truly is.
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Post by Draztec on Sept 26, 2011 16:11:36 GMT -8
I don't give a rat's ass about any of this... Sully can go pound sand and the team needs to move on and toughen up... Next game counts just as much as the last 4.
We're 3-1... 4 more wins this season and we're bowling again!
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Sept 26, 2011 16:41:24 GMT -8
Sullivan considers himself an intellectual of the highest level ;D And to think that they gave him the job when Ed Graney was already on their staff. What a joke! Where does that come from? Sullivan came here from Philly where the sports reporting is brutal. I'm not defending him, I'm just saying that after 20 or so years living here he should have figured out that offering Wrong Coast attitudes here doesn't count for much. But then again, outside of Rutgers, what school do Philly college football fans have? =Bob
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Post by 78aztec82 on Sept 26, 2011 17:25:39 GMT -8
Temple, 'Nova. Rutgers is in Joisy. Thought a New Yorkie would know that.
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Post by aztecbruce on Sept 26, 2011 17:36:35 GMT -8
I hope they don't forget the game. Learn from the experiences both good and bad. Let's go out and kick some frogs.
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Post by Old School on Sept 26, 2011 18:05:03 GMT -8
Two weeks of prep can do wonders.
Oldie Out
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Post by Azthetic on Sept 26, 2011 18:16:23 GMT -8
Bearfoot, it seems you are to Sullivan what Bball Analyst is to Franklin.
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Post by smoothcat on Sept 26, 2011 19:49:18 GMT -8
They are going to need to forget about the Michigan debacle and come out ready to play vs TCU or that one could get ugly too.
Bottom line is Lindley is going to have to improve his play drastically or it is going to be tough to beat the better teams on the schedule. Can't just expect to run Hillman down their throats all game if there is no fear of the pass.
He had plenty of wide open receivers on Saturday and vs. Wash St. and just kept missing guys. We need him to figure it out or Boise St is a sure loss and probably TCU and Air Force too.
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 26, 2011 19:49:54 GMT -8
I do agree that the players had a whole lot invested in this game, perhaps too much. However, Burris & Lindley are mature men and I'm sure could have pulled it together enough to give the local press an idea of how hard their poor play impacted the rest of the players. Why is it so important to you that they meet the local press directly after the game? (Especially since you seem to understand how much they had invested in this game.) Sullivan's reaction was completely unnecessary and, had he not had such a little fit, it would have existed as the non-issue that it truly is. Don't you think that Fisher's kids were a bit more disheartened after the loss to U Con? They faced the press. It is a front runner who allows the press in after a win, but not after a loss. See if you can find any other case of a coach, who typically allows player to talk to the press, who didn't after a loss. I realize some don't agree, but please, coach, let's be consistent.
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 26, 2011 19:56:56 GMT -8
Bearfoot, it seems you are to Sullivan what Bball Analyst is to Franklin. Edit goes here Not so fast buck er roooooo. that bballanalyst has no idea what a great Bballl player looks like. Not fair!! ;-) Ziegler & BS had about the same stuff, I suppose I'm doing it to them too, Eh? What part of letting the press in after a win, and not after a loss being quite inconsistent don't you understand. Was this loss to the football team any less crushing than the coach Fisher's boys loss to U Conn? BTW, they came out to meet the press. It's all part of growing up, and taking responsibility for what you have done. Tim S happens to be the focus, while it should be Coach Long. Another point, I bet Rocky doesn't do it again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2011 20:59:45 GMT -8
Why is it so important to you that they meet the local press directly after the game? (Especially since you seem to understand how much they had invested in this game.) Sullivan's reaction was completely unnecessary and, had he not had such a little fit, it would have existed as the non-issue that it truly is. Don't you think that Fisher's kids were a bit more disheartened after the loss to U Con? They faced the press. It is a front runner who allows the press in after a win, but not after a loss. See if you can find any other case of a coach, who typically allows player to talk to the press, who didn't after a loss. I realize some don't agree, but please, coach, let's be consistent. Don't I think the basketball team was more disheartened after the loss to UConn? I don't know, do you? My guess is the answer is purely subjective, an opinion. The truth of the matter is it really has nothing to do with this issue. Trust me, there are plenty of other cases where a coach didn't allow his players to speak to the press when he 'typically' does allow it. If you think there are none, ever, well okay that is your prerogative. Maybe Long is being consistent, maybe the last time a team he coached played an emotional game against a team coached by the team's former coach in front of 110,000 fans and lost he didn't let them speak to the press (when he normally does). I can see you think he should have let them talk to the press but I just don't understand why it is so important to you. Just like I don't think Sullivan should have written 3 paragraphs about it... who cares, it's not that big of a deal. And, in my eyes, it just makes Sullivan look whiny. But to each their own I suppose...
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Post by jcljorgenson on Sept 27, 2011 9:03:27 GMT -8
I had KUSI 9 News on this morning and Paul Rudy had a teaser "Aztec players finally speak after loss to Michigan, tonight at 10 pm."
Does anyone know if an interview has already taken place?
I'm not sure if we really even need to hear any postgame quotes myself. We all know the players are extremely disappointed in their performance and had a lot of emotion put on this game.
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Post by bearfoot on Sept 27, 2011 10:10:23 GMT -8
Don't you think that Fisher's kids were a bit more disheartened after the loss to U Con? They faced the press. It is a front runner who allows the press in after a win, but not after a loss. See if you can find any other case of a coach, who typically allows player to talk to the press, who didn't after a loss. I realize some don't agree, but please, coach, let's be consistent. Don't I think the basketball team was more disheartened after the loss to UConn? I don't know, do you? My guess is the answer is purely subjective, an opinion. The truth of the matter is it really has nothing to do with this issue. Trust me, there are plenty of other cases where a coach didn't allow his players to speak to the press when he 'typically' does allow it. If you think there are none, ever, well okay that is your prerogative. Maybe Long is being consistent, maybe the last time a team he coached played an emotional game against a team coached by the team's former coach in front of 110,000 fans and lost he didn't let them speak to the press (when he normally does). I can see you think he should have let them talk to the press but I just don't understand why it is so important to you. Just like I don't think Sullivan should have written 3 paragraphs about it... who cares, it's not that big of a deal. And, in my eyes, it just makes Sullivan look whiny. But to each their own I suppose... BTW, I do think Tim S. went on a bit too much, though something had to be mentioned. Do you actually believe the B-Ball players were any less crushed after loosing a very close, and controversial game in the sweet 16 to U Conn?? The point is they came spoke with the press, just like they did after the other 2 looses. I don;t know if you remember the Chris Weber T.O that may have cost the Fab 5 the championship, but coach Fisher had Weber speak to the press then also. It is something the great coaches do. I will still bet that if a similar situation comes up for Rocky, he will ask for at least one player to speak with the press. It is a big time college athletic program thing to do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2011 11:12:58 GMT -8
Don't I think the basketball team was more disheartened after the loss to UConn? I don't know, do you? My guess is the answer is purely subjective, an opinion. The truth of the matter is it really has nothing to do with this issue. Trust me, there are plenty of other cases where a coach didn't allow his players to speak to the press when he 'typically' does allow it. If you think there are none, ever, well okay that is your prerogative. Maybe Long is being consistent, maybe the last time a team he coached played an emotional game against a team coached by the team's former coach in front of 110,000 fans and lost he didn't let them speak to the press (when he normally does). I can see you think he should have let them talk to the press but I just don't understand why it is so important to you. Just like I don't think Sullivan should have written 3 paragraphs about it... who cares, it's not that big of a deal. And, in my eyes, it just makes Sullivan look whiny. But to each their own I suppose... BTW, I do think Tim S. went on a bit too much, though something had to be mentioned. Do you actually believe the B-Ball players were any less crushed after loosing a very close, and controversial game in the sweet 16 to U Conn?? The point is they came spoke with the press, just like they did after the other 2 looses. I don;t know if you remember the Chris Weber T.O that may have cost the Fab 5 the championship, but coach Fisher had Weber speak to the press then also. It is something the great coaches do. I will still bet that if a similar situation comes up for Rocky, he will ask for at least one player to speak with the press. It is a big time college athletic program thing to do. I get that you think Long should have had the players speak to the press. And I understand if you were the coach that is what you would do because you feel that is what big time athletic programs do. I just wanted to point out a few things for you.... You asked 'do i actually believe the b-ball players were any less crushed with their loss?' Well, I never commented on it other than saying, I do not know. I have no idea how either set of players feel about their situations... how could I unless I was on both teams? Also, you comment about Fisher having Weber talk to the press after his infamous time out... about that being something great coaches do. I will agree that is something some great coaches do. However, my thought on a great coach is that they understand that not every situation is the same and they do what they feel is best in the situation they are dealing with at the time. Btw, I am not debating that Weber was any more or less devastated. I am simply saying, to me, it is not an issue. Apparently it is to you so I shall move on.
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Post by cacique on Sept 27, 2011 12:39:24 GMT -8
Actually,I Believe Sullivan came from Cincinnati.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 27, 2011 12:39:50 GMT -8
Take note, Aztec fans, that Rocky Long places TCU in the same class as Michigan so I hope we will stop hearing "guarantees" of a win against TCU. The predictions of 12, 11, 10 or even 9 wins at the beginning of the season were ridiculous. I can't remember anyone predicting 11 or 12 wins. I did say I thought that 10 wins was an outside possibility, but that 8 or possibly 9 wins were more likely results. Predicting 9 wins was not ridiculous and is still not. Nine wins would mean winning all non-conference games except Michigan, and that is still doable. It would also mean losing only 2 games in-conference, a difficult but not outlandish requirement. Let's be realistic but at the same time let's not give up on the team. To get to 9 wins SDSU will have to win all the obviously winnable games and also knock off one of the following: TCU, Boise, or AFA. Is that total pie-in-the-sky? No. AzWm
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