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Post by laaztec on Sept 21, 2011 6:35:27 GMT -8
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Sept 21, 2011 6:45:04 GMT -8
By "exploring" they mean "so long as the big east is around and has AQ status we will go there, if not we will go back to the mwc, unless the big 12 decides to invite us."
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Post by fanhood on Sept 21, 2011 6:47:32 GMT -8
Exactly Lath.
The worse thing that can happen to the MW is the Big East surviving.
The Big East must Die!!!
If the Big 12 takes Louisville, WVU, BYU and South Florida, not only does the MW get their BCS bid, but we get TCU back plus Houston or SMU.
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Post by 94sdsu on Sept 21, 2011 9:01:31 GMT -8
I hope the Big East dies too. It will be pretty ironic if a BCS conference dies and the MWC continues at full strength.
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Post by 94sdsu on Sept 21, 2011 9:02:40 GMT -8
and who's Chip Brown anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 9:09:59 GMT -8
and who's Chip Brown anyway? I once doubted him too but that guy has more contacts with regard to college football in the state of Texas than anybody. And I'm not completely skeptical about the report like the rest of you. Do I think there's a good chance TCU will stay in the MW? No. However that doesn't mean there is no chance. If Craig Thompson is a good commissioner, and the jury is admittedly out, he is on the horn 24/7 right now playing what if with CBS-Comcast. Saying something to the effect that the MW is really unhappy with those guys but could get really HAPPY with them if they would make a commitment to quintuple or quadruple the revenue per school if the MW keeps TCU, adds Houston and gains BCS AQ status and holds a football championship game. Considering how strong that would make the MW in comparison to the very dumbed down Big East, CBS-Comcast would have to be even dumber than most of us already think they are not to seriously consider that proposal. |
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Post by monty on Sept 21, 2011 9:13:47 GMT -8
he is always wrong, he is Texas' official czar of disinformation. Just like Pravda would constantly report 5 and 10 year plans releasing new ones and newly worded ones over and over so is Texas' Pravda. Doesn't mean there isn't some nugget in there, even if that nugget is one the state is trying to portray, and my guess: this is some sort of a smear on TCU.
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Post by GothamCityRogue on Sept 21, 2011 9:15:49 GMT -8
I posted this in the other thread discussing TCU's potential return to the MWC.
TCU returning might be a possible, but I think that if they option out of the BE it will be to join the BXII-2. TCU and BYU to BigXII-2 is a likely scenario. More likely than TCU returning to MWC. But their return is possible...if we raid CUSA and take Houston and/or SMU.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 9:28:53 GMT -8
he is always wrong, he is Texas' official czar of disinformation. Is he a mouthpiece for DeLoss Dodds? Sure. However, when push came to shove at the eleventh hour in June 2010, Joe Schad said the Pac-16 was absolutely going to be reality whereas at exactly the same time, Brown Chip said it would absolutely not happen. |
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Post by Motown Monty on Sept 21, 2011 9:37:19 GMT -8
Ultimately TCU is going to do what is best for TCU and if that means coming back to the MWC then they'll do it. It's not about pride or any other peripheral, it's about their position in the college football landscape.
If I were to guess what happens to the remaining Big 12 and Big East IF UT, OU, OSU and TT bail for the Pacific-XX and UConn and WV or others leave for the ACC, the remaining schools from those two conferences will merge and keep their AQ status. In that scenario TCU would go with the Big East/12 left overs.
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Post by monty on Sept 21, 2011 9:39:10 GMT -8
he is always wrong, he is Texas' official czar of disinformation. Is he a mouthpiece for DeLoss Dodds? Sure. However, when push came to shove at the eleventh hour in June 2010, Joe Schad said the Pac-16 was absolutely going to be reality whereas at exactly the same time, Brown Chip said it would absolutely not happen. Because Dodds told him to say it. He has spat out at least 2 or 3 dozen nuggets the past couple weeks and nearly every one is wrong and serves some motivation of UT. This one too. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 10:37:57 GMT -8
Here's some clarification, originally published yesterday evening but "updated" five hours ago: content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/09/big-east-united-nations-conference-realignment/1Note this quote from the Big East commish versus apparent reality: "Our schools basically went around the table and pledged to each other that they are committed to move forward together. The fact that all of our schools in less than 24 hours notice came here to New York to meet with us showed that they are committed to move forward together and they want to hear what we have to say in order to keep us together."
One official in the Big East who requested anonymity said that was not an accurate assessment of the sentiment in the room. The official said league schools are committed to recruiting more schools but did not make any pledge to remaining in the league until it's clear what the league will look like.
The official also said about four or five of the Big East schools are committed to keeping the league together, but the other two or three need to know where the league is headed before a firm commitment is made. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 10:53:30 GMT -8
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 21, 2011 10:58:08 GMT -8
AFA and TCU are not going to do anything until they see if UCONN and Rutgers Stay or if WVU and the 'Ville stay. The biggest news out of the BE was that the buyout was left unchanged at $5M and that insiders undercut the Commisioner by leaking that there was no head nodding as he said. BE is teetering, can it be saved? Who knows. |
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Sept 21, 2011 10:59:53 GMT -8
Cannot believe AFA is going to leave the MW unless.......there is no chance the MW gains AQ status. TCU could make the decision for MW AQ status really easy by rejoining the MW. It would be hard to believe that the MW with two top ten teams (Boise, TCU) and an up and coming SDSU program could be denied AQ status at that point. TCU looks like a"kingmaker" to me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 11:05:25 GMT -8
SGF,
I do not have all of the details and have not done any research but since you seem to follow this a bit let me ask this...
Seems to me (since football is the bread winner) the Big East is doomed as far as TV money goes. The new makeup will be So Fld, Cinn, Loui, Rut, Uconn, & TCU, plus ???. And Uconn is talking about leaving. What TV exec in his right mind would think those schools bring much to the table in terms of viewership? so why would AFA go there???
Like I said, I could be way off base but that is how it looks to me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 11:13:59 GMT -8
Cannot believe AFA is going to leave the MW unless.......there is no chance the MW gains AQ status. TCU could make the decision for MW AQ status really easy by rejoining the MW. It would be hard to believe that the MW with two top ten teams (Boise, TCU) and an up and coming SDSU program could be denied AQ status at that point. TCU looks like a"kingmaker" to me. At the risk of sounding dramatic, I think the future of the MW could be in the hands of TCU and AFA. If they both stay, I think the conference will have a pretty bright future. However, if they leave, I can see a push for the following. The MW would be at just nine football members if both TCU and AFA leave. If both leave, there is no reason to think that Houston will join. The Big East has reportedly decided against adding UH but that doesn't mean they wouldn't just remain in CUSA and hold out hope for an offer from the Big 12 if it expands (which is doubtful beyond possibly just BYU IMO). CUSA has 12 but if, as seems very possible, the Big East also adds UCF, CUSA is down to 11. 11+9 = an even number. Sorry to sound pessimistic but I think there's a chance we could see the emergence of a 20-member version of the 1996-1997 WAC. In other words, a bloated conference with a few quality programs and a sh!tload of dreck. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 11:24:26 GMT -8
SGF, I do not have all of the details and have not done any research but since you seem to follow this a bit let me ask this... Seems to me (since football is the bread winner) the Big East is doomed as far as TV money goes. The new makeup will be So Fld, Cinn, Loui, Rut, Uconn, & TCU, plus ???. And Uconn is talking about leaving. What TV exec in his right mind would think those schools bring much to the table in terms of viewership? so why would AFA go there??? Two reasons. One, I've confirmed what somebody said on the MW board which made no sense but is apparently true that once AQ status is gained unprovisionally, as long as you keep enough members in your conference, you remain AQ. That's subject to change once the BCS enters into another contract with ESPN and its bowl partners but that's the case right now anyway. The BE has unqualified AQ status but the MW doesn't even have provisional AQ status right now. Two, the BE's TV deal figures to be reduced significantly in value but it's still there and worth a lot whereas the MW's is still there and worth almost nothing. I think AFA and TCU would be gambling that with the addition of them, Navy and UCF that the BE could retain its AQ status and a better TV deal than the MW when push comes to shove in 2014. BTW, as I said once yesterday, I almost wish this stupid MW-CUSA alliance/merger would happen. I think the result would be such a lousy conference that it would almost guarantee another airport meeting. This time, however, SDSU would be one of the participants in that meeting. |
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Sept 21, 2011 11:39:15 GMT -8
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Sept 21, 2011 12:10:05 GMT -8
Having interest in a school and issuing an invite are two very different things. It would be nice if they killed off the Big East once and for all. Sends TCU back to the mwc. |
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