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Post by mfaulkhof2011 on Feb 14, 2011 16:29:41 GMT -8
If you check out the Bracketology predictions of Lunardi from ESPN or Palm from CBSsports.com, both of their brackets have Tucson leading to different regions. Lunardi has us going to Tucson and if we win, he suggests that leads to the New Orleans region. On the other hand, Palm has us in Tucson but he has them going to the Anaheim region. I've double checked that it is not a pod thing and Tucson has one going to each. I'd love to see SDSU fans pack Anaheim, so if anyone knows definitively please respond. Thanks!
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Feb 14, 2011 16:35:18 GMT -8
Pod system. The First/Second round sites can lead anywhere.
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Post by laaztec on Feb 14, 2011 16:36:30 GMT -8
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Post by aztecrandy on Feb 14, 2011 16:39:58 GMT -8
If you are on I-10 heading East, Tucson leads to NO. If you are on I-10 heading West, it leads to Anaheim.  Could we have a thread explaining the possible scenarios and how the seeding and locations work pinned? I would recommend Haleiwaaztec. He's got this thing figured out and I'm sure he's getting tired of answering this question. |
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Post by NTU on Feb 14, 2011 16:41:12 GMT -8
No, it hasn't been officially decided yet, and won't until Selection Sunday. |
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Post by mfaulkhof2011 on Feb 14, 2011 16:43:36 GMT -8
That's great. Maybe Haleiwaaztec could explain it to Lunardi and Palm!
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Post by aztecbruce on Feb 14, 2011 16:43:52 GMT -8
If you check out the Bracketology predictions of Lunardi from ESPN or Palm from CBSsports.com, both of their brackets have Tucson leading to different regions. Lunardi has us going to Tucson and if we win, he suggests that leads to the New Orleans region. On the other hand, Palm has us in Tucson but he has them going to the Anaheim region. I've double checked that it is not a pod thing and Tucson has one going to each. I'd love to see SDSU fans pack Anaheim, so if anyone knows definitively please respond. Thanks! The Pod thing is the most assinine thing the NCAA has done to screw up the tournament. NObody has a clue where anybody goes if/when they win. The only thing they try to do is put the big named east coast schools within a hike from their home court. They're a bunch of bozos for sure who just don't get it how could the tournament really could be if they just let it happen. |
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Post by mfaulkhof2011 on Feb 14, 2011 16:47:13 GMT -8
I understand it's not decided until Selection Sunday Sherlock err NTU Zuma. Just wanted to know if anyone knows who's right Lunardi or Palm. Each has two Tucson brackets going to different places. I've got to assume Palm is right and all Tucson's games lead to Anaheim, but I don't want to purchase tickets to Anaheim and find out later that Palm was wrong.
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Post by aztecrandy on Feb 14, 2011 16:54:56 GMT -8
That's great. Maybe Haleiwaaztec could explain it to Lunardi and Palm! He doesn't need to. They get it. The sites for the 1st weekend have no ties to where the 2nd weekend will be played. I apologize for my sarcastic response, but this has been addressed in about 15 other threads. People need to utilize the search button at the top of the screen. We're creating about 3 pages of new threads every day and most of them are duplicates. |
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Post by waingro on Feb 14, 2011 16:55:58 GMT -8
If SDSU beats BYU 2/26 and then wins the MWC tourney, then the pod of the Tucson sub-regional that contains SDSU will most certainly feed into Anaheim.
If BYU beats SDSU 2/26 OR wins the MWC tourney, then the pod of the Tucson sub-regional that contains SDSU will most likely feed into San Antonio.
It's a lock that SDSU will be in Tucson even if they lose a couple more games. So then it's a matter of where BYU and SDSU finish in relation to each other.
As the two consensus best teams in the west whose mutual goal is to go to the Anaheim regional, whoever gets the better of the other over the next month will get their preferred path, while the other will probably get San Antonio as a consolation prize.
Edit: BYU's consolation prize would be New Orleans in my scenario.
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Post by aztecbruce on Feb 14, 2011 16:59:33 GMT -8
If SDSU beats BYU 2/26 and then wins the MWC tourney, then the pod of the Tucson sub-regional that contains SDSU will most certainly feed into Anaheim. If BYU beats SDSU 2/26 OR wins the MWC tourney, then the pod of the Tucson sub-regional that contains SDSU will most likely feed into San Antonio. It's a lock that SDSU will be in Tucson even if they lose a couple more games. So then it's a matter of where BYU and SDSU finish in relation to each other. As the two consensus best teams in the west whose mutual goal is to go to the Anaheim regional, whoever gets the better of the other over the next month will get their preferred path, while the other will probably get San Antonio as a consolation prize. A "lock" Keep in mind the Zoobs won't play on Sunday |
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Post by waingro on Feb 14, 2011 17:03:07 GMT -8
A "lock" Keep in mind the Zoobs won't play on Sunday BYU will get the Denver sub-regional, which plays Thursday/Saturday... |
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Post by CapitolAztec on Feb 14, 2011 17:03:35 GMT -8
I understand it's not decided until Selection Sunday Sherlock err NTU Zuma. Just wanted to know if anyone knows who's right Lunardi or Palm. Each has two Tucson brackets going to different places. I've got to assume Palm is right and all Tucson's games lead to Anaheim, but I don't want to purchase tickets to Anaheim and find out later that Palm was wrong. Neither one of them is "right" -- it's all speculation at this point. Tucson could conceivably feed neither New Orleans nor Anaheim. The bottom line is that any pod can feed any region, and none of that will be known until the brackets are officially released. Until then, you can make educated guesses as to how things will shake out (and it's easier to do for the 1 and 2 seeds), but buying tickets for any regional at this point will involve some amount of risk that will not be completely eliminated until March 13. |
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Post by NTU on Feb 14, 2011 17:19:13 GMT -8
I understand it's not decided until Selection Sunday Sherlock err NTU Zuma. Just wanted to know if anyone knows who's right Lunardi or Palm. Each has two Tucson brackets going to different places. I've got to assume Palm is right and all Tucson's games lead to Anaheim, but I don't want to purchase tickets to Anaheim and find out later that Palm was wrong. None of them are "right." They're educated guesses, and nothing more. The higher seeds typically determine what regional they'll feed into. The point is to keep the higher seeds as close to home as possible, at least for the opening rounds. For the Aztecs would mean a trip to Tucson, and for BYU it's a trip to Denver. But the region they're assigned to won't be determined until Selection Sunday, depending on which team "earns" the higher overall seed. Should BYU technically be seeded higher than SDSU, then they'll be placed in the West Region, and funnel from Denver to Anaheim. Should SDSU "earn" the higher overall seed, then THEY'LL be funneled from Tucson to Anaheim, and BYU likely to NO. At this point they're all just guessing at who will be the conference champ/higher overall seed. And should the unthinkable happen and BYU wins on the 26th, then problem solved: BYU to Anaheim. |
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Post by aztecrandy on Feb 14, 2011 17:23:23 GMT -8
If SDSU beats BYU 2/26 and then wins the MWC tourney, then the pod of the Tucson sub-regional that contains SDSU will most certainly feed into Anaheim. If BYU beats SDSU 2/26 OR wins the MWC tourney, then the pod of the Tucson sub-regional that contains SDSU will most likely feed into San Antonio. It's a lock that SDSU will be in Tucson even if they lose a couple more games. So then it's a matter of where BYU and SDSU finish in relation to each other. As the two consensus best teams in the west whose mutual goal is to go to the Anaheim regional, whoever gets the better of the other over the next month will get their preferred path, while the other will probably get San Antonio as a consolation prize. Edit: BYU's consolation prize would be New Orleans in my scenario. If you look in the rear view mirror you will also notice that Arizona has jumped into the top 15 at 21-4. I would consider it a 3 team race for the Anaheim region at this point. I know Arizona's resume isn't as good, but they are Pac-10 and up until now that is all that has mattered. And yes, I know that Arizona can not play in Tucson. |
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Post by NTU on Feb 14, 2011 17:25:28 GMT -8
If SDSU beats BYU 2/26 and then wins the MWC tourney, then the pod of the Tucson sub-regional that contains SDSU will most certainly feed into Anaheim. If BYU beats SDSU 2/26 OR wins the MWC tourney, then the pod of the Tucson sub-regional that contains SDSU will most likely feed into San Antonio. It's a lock that SDSU will be in Tucson even if they lose a couple more games. So then it's a matter of where BYU and SDSU finish in relation to each other. As the two consensus best teams in the west whose mutual goal is to go to the Anaheim regional, whoever gets the better of the other over the next month will get their preferred path, while the other will probably get San Antonio as a consolation prize. Edit: BYU's consolation prize would be New Orleans in my scenario. If you look in the rear view mirror you will also notice that Arizona has jumped into the top 15 at 21-4. I would consider it a 3 team race for the Anaheim region at this point. I know Arizona's resume isn't as good, but they are Pac-10 and up until now that is all that has mattered. And yes, I know that Arizona can not play in Tucson. As long as SDSU and BYU remain ahead of the Zonies in the rankings, then we have nothing to worry about. The committee won't seed Arizona higher than two teams ranked ahead of them in both polls. That would be asinine and they know it. |
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Post by aztecrandy on Feb 14, 2011 17:34:35 GMT -8
If you look in the rear view mirror you will also notice that Arizona has jumped into the top 15 at 21-4. I would consider it a 3 team race for the Anaheim region at this point. I know Arizona's resume isn't as good, but they are Pac-10 and up until now that is all that has mattered. And yes, I know that Arizona can not play in Tucson. As long as SDSU and BYU remain ahead of the Zonies in the rankings, then we have nothing to worry about. The committee won't seed Arizona higher than two teams ranked ahead of them in both polls. That would be asinine and they know it. I know it is, but many of the "experts" are saying that we can finish 33-1 and not get a #1 seed. MWC teams have very little margin for error when it comes to seeding. I'm not saying it's right, it's just how it is. The committee has had no problem in the past "explaining" why teams from outside the big 6 have gotten screwed. |
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Post by NTU on Feb 14, 2011 17:38:37 GMT -8
As long as SDSU and BYU remain ahead of the Zonies in the rankings, then we have nothing to worry about. The committee won't seed Arizona higher than two teams ranked ahead of them in both polls. That would be asinine and they know it. I know it is, but many of the "experts" are saying that we can finish 33-1 and not get a #1 seed. MWC teams have very little margin for error when it comes to seeding. I'm not saying it's right, it's just how it is. The committee has had no problem in the past "explaining" why teams from outside the big 6 have gotten screwed. Neither of us will get a #1 seed, but really, who cares? There isn't much difference between a 1 seed and a 2 seed, and most of the so-called "experts" have both SDSU and BYU projected as 2 seeds. That's plenty good enough for me. I'll be THRILLED if the Aztecs end up with a 2 seed. |
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Post by aztecrandy on Feb 14, 2011 17:50:37 GMT -8
Neither of us will get a #1 seed, but really, who cares? There isn't much difference between a 1 seed and a 2 seed, and most of the so-called "experts" have both SDSU and BYU projected as 2 seeds. That's plenty good enough for me. I'll be THRILLED if the Aztecs end up with a 2 seed. As will I. I'm simply stating that if they can rationalize a 33-1 team with a strong RPI and SOS not being a #1 seed then they can also rationalize Arizona being a higher #2 or #3 seed than us which would move us out of the West region. |
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Post by NTU on Feb 14, 2011 18:03:40 GMT -8
Neither of us will get a #1 seed, but really, who cares? There isn't much difference between a 1 seed and a 2 seed, and most of the so-called "experts" have both SDSU and BYU projected as 2 seeds. That's plenty good enough for me. I'll be THRILLED if the Aztecs end up with a 2 seed. As will I. I'm simply stating that if they can rationalize a 33-1 team with a strong RPI and SOS not being a #1 seed then they can also rationalize Arizona being a higher #2 or #3 seed than us which would move us out of the West region. Paranoia is not an attractive trait. Look at the current rankings in both major polls. It's easy to make the argument that Texas, Ohio St., Pitt, and Kansas should all be ranked--and thus seeded--higher than the Aztecs or Kitties. Duke is a little less easy, but easy nonetheless. Don't let the homer goggles cloud your judgment. The argument for Arizona--or ANY Pac 10 school for that matter--is next to impossible, unless you're willing (as a selection committee member) to show your unquestionable bias against the MWC and in favor of the Big 6 conferences. Barring a total collapse, there's no way for them to overtake SDSU and BYU, given that the MWC is currently the #4 RPI conference, rated well ahead of the Pac, which is ranked 7th. By any objective criteria, BYU and SDSU are both higher seeds than ANYONE in the Pac. |
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