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Post by AztecWilliam on Jan 30, 2011 13:22:04 GMT -8
If the Supreme Court of the U.S. rules 9-0 on a case, one must assume that the particulars of that case are pretty open and shut. Well, that has happened several times recently when the SCOTUS has overturned decisions made by the . . . you guessed it! . . . Ninth Circuit Court in San Francisco. Yeah, I know, this is in a sense nothing new. But here are the details. And keep in mind that nearly half the SCOTUS is made up of liberals. To rule unanimously against the 9Th surely means that something . . . something bad . . . is going on up in SF. www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/01/30/where_judicial_activism_morphs_into_disregard_108706.htmlAzWm
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Post by Aztec89 on Jan 30, 2011 16:35:27 GMT -8
That pretty much sums up Liberal thinking. They are right, no matter what anyone else thinks or says. The fact that they are in a position to do so, is all they need to go ahead and do it.
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 31, 2011 6:47:08 GMT -8
We should be thankful that the Ninth Court is not the final stop. You would think that after some time passes and new members are seated that the Ninth would change a little more toward common sense. Just does not seem to happen.
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Post by JOCAZTEC on Jan 31, 2011 8:35:39 GMT -8
Is the Ninth located at Haight and Ashbury?
Hmm?
HAM
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jan 31, 2011 9:46:21 GMT -8
We should be thankful that the Ninth Court is not the final stop. You would think that after some time passes and new members are seated that the Ninth would change a little more toward common sense. Just does not seem to happen. Your post brings to mind what is very likely the worst possibility associated with a second term for Barack Obama with the Dems controlling both Houses of Congress. If he can replace just one conservative justice with another Ginsberg, it's game over in terms of stopping totally unconstitutional laws that might be passed by Congress. My guess is that the GOP does have a good chance of taking the Senate in '12 and holding onto the House. There are, I believe, 23 Dem. Senators up for reelection then and only 8 Republicans. If the GOP loses only 2 of their seats and also captures 6 of the Dem. seats they will have knocked Harry Reid off his perch. That would make it 51 Rep, 49 Dem. Very possibly the Republicans could end up with 52 or 53 seats. As for the House, the GOP could suffer a net loss of 20 seats and still have a 9 seat lead in that chamber. But in terms of the SCOTUS, it's the Senate that counts. Being a libertarian, Justices such as Ginsberg and Sotomayor are anathema to me. I would hope a Republican Senate would block a similar nominee, even if only to replace a liberal justice. And if Obama sends ten similar justices, reject them all. If he sends 50, same thing. The SCOTUS should be at least somewhat conservative, and for this reason. There is no recourse (save the very difficult to achieve constitutional amendment). once the Court has ruled. Sweeping changes should come through the legislative process, in which the people as a whole have a say (at the ballot box). The SCOTUS should be saying, Not so fast, let's take our time. I realize that such an attitude is not shared by the Left. The Left is sure it's right and why would any thinking person not agree with their proposals to "transform America"? Good example: marriage. Marriage has been, over the long span of history, in virtually all cases, one male and one female. The Left has no respect for that historical record and has decided that it's preferred definition must become law. Waiting for society to come around to its way of thinking is simply too inconvenient for the Left, so they think it's fine for 9 people to overturn all of history because their "enlightenment" tells them that those who in opposition are unworthy and can be disregarded. Please don't tell me that slavery was (and still is in Africa) a part of that long sweep of history. True but irrelevant. Slavery was ended by legislative action (i.e., the 14th Amendment). In short, keeping the SCOTUS just a bit to the right of center is essential. The alternative is a court that, as in the Warren era, discovers mysterious emanations, much like the high pitched sound waves of a dog whistle. The unwashed masses and the reactionaries who stand in the way, even if they represent the vast majority of the population, are incapable of hearing those mysterious signals. The Left is quite comfortable with rulings based on those questionable grounds. Such creative interpretation of the U.S. Constitution are common among Democrat-appointed Justices so often produce. For that reason, Obama should be defeated. If he does win reelection, his inevitable attempts to move the court to the Left must be fought with the same intensity that the 101st Airborne defended Bastogne. AzWm
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Jan 31, 2011 10:59:06 GMT -8
There are currently 48 active judges that make up the Ninth Circuit. 21 were appointed by Republicans and 27 by Democrats. I wouldn't call this an overwhelming majority.
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 31, 2011 13:09:10 GMT -8
Liberals think they are right? Sure. As if conservatives don't think they are right? The difference is that liberals think it is okay if conservatives think different. That is the American way. Conservatives are different. If you disagree with them then you are a traitor and unAmerican.
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Post by Aztec89 on Jan 31, 2011 14:59:45 GMT -8
Liberals think they are right? Sure. As if conservatives don't think they are right? The difference is that liberals think it is okay if conservatives think different. That is the American way. Conservatives are different. If you disagree with them then you are a traitor and unAmerican. The fact is these are "Judges". They are appointed to interpret th laws of the US. Not make new ones.
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Post by davdesid on Jan 31, 2011 17:38:34 GMT -8
Liberals think they are right? Sure. As if conservatives don't think they are right? The difference is that liberals think it is okay if conservatives think different. That is the American way. Conservatives are different. If you disagree with them then you are a traitor and unAmerican. Oh, yeah... yewbetcha... voices.washingtonpost.com/right-turn/2011/01/the_uncivil_left.html
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Post by inocuace on Feb 1, 2011 19:16:11 GMT -8
That pretty much sums up Liberal thinking. They are right, no matter what anyone else thinks or says. The fact that they are in a position to do so, is all they need to go ahead and do it. That is a gross and inaccurate characterization. Geez! Fooladelfian conservatives give me gas.
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