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Post by haleiwaaztec on Jan 27, 2011 13:35:26 GMT -8
insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?name=nba_draft&id=6064548The focus on this insider article is on Jimmer and how scouts were impressed by how well he did against SDSU. Basically saying that SDSU is the type of team he should struggle to score against - if he was not really an NBA prospect. There is now talk that he could be moving up to a lottery pick. Speaking of lottery... "San Diego State's Kawhi Leonard also had a terrific game, scoring 22 points and grabbing 15 boards despite the fact that he was battling the stomach flu and throwing up just 90 minutes before the game. More and more scouts are referring to him as a lottery pick, perhaps a top-10 pick by draft night." Baring a lockout, I have come to accept that Leonard will not be back. Thus far he has proven that he has all the intangables (work ethic, poise, toughness, desire, etc.) to go with some freakish physical gifts. Once he declares and the scouts get to interact with him, watch him workout, they are going to fall in love with him and he'll be promised a high pick and will not withdraw from the draft. The scary thing is as SDSU continues to win and if they play 2 or more games in the tournament, he'll get even more exposure.
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Post by aztectruth on Jan 27, 2011 13:38:32 GMT -8
He is not good enough yet. His outside shot is still really inconsistent. I think he would be wise to stay another year, and that's not even being biased about his decision.
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Post by SD Johnny on Jan 27, 2011 13:42:01 GMT -8
If he's a first rounder he needs to go. It will be better for SDSU in the longrun as top notch recruits value a schools ability to place them in the NBA over education and many other factors. Short term pain for long term gain!
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Post by goaztecs on Jan 27, 2011 13:42:12 GMT -8
He is not good enough yet. His outside shot is still really inconsistent. I think he would be wise to stay another year, and that's not even being biased about his decision. Thats exactly how I've felt all year. But everyone has him going as a mid first rounder so I doubt he stays. |
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Post by KickAztec on Jan 27, 2011 13:44:42 GMT -8
He is not good enough yet. His outside shot is still really inconsistent. I think he would be wise to stay another year, and that's not even being biased about his decision. From a basketball playing perspective, I totally agree. But if he is going to be a lottery pick, he almost has to go. Because another year in college BB probably wouldn't move him up much yet there would be downside risk (injury, etc). Now, if he's like Andrew Luck and just wants to stay in school to get his degree or hang with his pals, well that's a different element. |
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Post by NTU on Jan 27, 2011 14:17:27 GMT -8
If he's a first rounder he needs to go. It will be better for SDSU in the longrun as top notch recruits value a schools ability to place them in the NBA over education and many other factors. Short term pain for long term gain! The NBA draft is different. Remember, there are only 2 rounds, so what you're saying is kind of a false equivalency. Being a late first round draft pick is really more comparable to being a 4th or 5th round pick in the NFL. There's no real promise of playing time or a huge payday.......at least not like the top of the draft. And he'll have more to prove. Now, if he's virtually guaranteed to be a lottery pick, that's different. Anything short of a lottery pick and I think he has to seriously consider coming back to school for another year. |
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Post by dmilesai on Jan 27, 2011 14:49:54 GMT -8
Now, if he's like Andrew Luck and just wants to stay in school to get his degree or hang with his pals, well that's a different element. Except Andrew Luck has that luxury since his dad is a former NFL quarterback and the current AD at West Virginia. His family isn't really hurting for money right now. I'm sure Kawhi would love to be a first round pick and get the guaranteed money. After last night's performance, NBA scouts have to have him firmly in the first round. I'm sorry, but I think we're gonna have to say bye to Kawhi. |
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Post by tuff on Jan 27, 2011 14:56:31 GMT -8
He is not good enough yet. His outside shot is still really inconsistent. I think he would be wise to stay another year, and that's not even being biased about his decision. Been saying this all year. Another year in college ans 'seasoning' his jumper is needed. However, high lottery pick.....go. We'll live. |
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Post by dmilesai on Jan 27, 2011 15:00:55 GMT -8
He is not good enough yet. His outside shot is still really inconsistent. I think he would be wise to stay another year, and that's not even being biased about his decision. Been saying this all year. Another year in college ans 'seasoning' his jumper is needed. However, high lottery pick.....go. We'll live. Rebounding is one skill that will translate to the NBA. His shot can get better while he works out in preparation for the draft and after he gets drafted. Look at Al-Farouq Aminu. He was a top 10 pick and his shot looked bad at Wake Forest. But he is a great athlete that can rebound and put the ball on the floor a bit, so he was drafted in the top 10. |
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Post by haleiwaaztec on Jan 27, 2011 15:24:17 GMT -8
One big difference is that in the NBA he'll likely be the 4th or 5th scoring option on the floor - and likely will not have any plays run for him. I've seen him really make a lot of 'NBA moves' in the past few games. We all know he needs to 'work on his' shot but the point is that the tools are there and so is the work ethic. That is what the NBA will draft for.
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Post by aztech on Jan 27, 2011 15:24:54 GMT -8
He is not good enough yet. His outside shot is still really inconsistent. I think he would be wise to stay another year, and that's not even being biased about his decision. If he's a lottery pick he'd be foolish not to go. He could work on his outside shot 24/7 and free from school. Plus he'll have off season coaching from the team that drafts him. How could he miss? |
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Post by dreadhawk909 on Jan 27, 2011 15:27:44 GMT -8
Multiple people in this thread seem to think they have a better outlook on NBA potential than professional NBA scouts do. This is laughable.
If the scouts say he's good enough to go pro, then he is good enough to go pro. Deal with it.
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Post by sdoc on Jan 27, 2011 15:30:01 GMT -8
If he is a top 15 pick or higher then he should go.
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Post by NTU on Jan 27, 2011 16:00:51 GMT -8
Multiple people in this thread seem to think they have a better outlook on NBA potential than professional NBA scouts do. This is laughable. If the scouts say he's good enough to go pro, then he is good enough to go pro. Deal with it. Oh, he's good enough. There's no question about it. The real question is, if you're Kawhi, how high do you have to be projected to go in order to make the decision a no brainer? Is it merely first round draft pick status that's good enough, or does he have to be a projected lottery pick? My opinion--and it's just MY opinion--is that if he's not a sure lottery pick, then he should SERIOUSLY consider coming back for another year. The NBA's not going anywhere, and he'll still be a first round pick next year. And next year he'd be the focal point of the team here (like Jimmer is for BYU), which would give him a chance to vault himself into the top 5. The other question is is he mentally ready to make the jump to the pros? And maybe, just maybe he wants to mature in college for another year. Maybe he likes being in college for now, and is just not ready to jump into "the real world" yet? And with the labor uncertainty, you just never know what he might decide to do. The guy's an NBA caliber player, though. There's no longer any question about it. |
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Post by jcljorgenson on Jan 27, 2011 16:13:13 GMT -8
He is not good enough yet. His outside shot is still really inconsistent. I think he would be wise to stay another year, and that's not even being biased about his decision. Thats exactly how I've felt all year. But everyone has him going as a mid first rounder so I doubt he stays. Man, he threw up a handful of serious bricks last night, but overall he regularly puts up some great numbers. |
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Post by Section T(urn Up) on Jan 27, 2011 17:06:18 GMT -8
Kawhi would benefit from having 8 hours a day to work on this jumper you guys are so critical of. He's not going to get that taking 12 units of classes and studying. Is Kawhi's outside game that of an NBA 3 right now? No. Does it need to be for him to get drafted in the lottery? No. Do I think he'll be a very very good NBA player in 3 years? Yes. If you're sitting with the 14th pick in the NBA draft there aren't a lot of guys who are out there that are impact players coming in. Kawhi is basically a "can't miss" in terms of work ethic and physical gifts. I'd snatch him up. So will someone else.
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Post by aztecnole on Jan 27, 2011 18:57:03 GMT -8
Jimmer's not a team player, you can't run and play like that in the NBA consistently. Just saying.
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Post by NTU on Jan 27, 2011 19:08:37 GMT -8
Jimmer's not a team player, you can't run and play like that in the NBA consistently. Just saying. Don't be an idiot..........  I guess the next thing you're gonna tell us is that Steph Curry is a dismal failure as an NBA player? |
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Jan 27, 2011 19:11:19 GMT -8
I agree that Kawhi is ready. However, I still think he should wait and work on other skills. Once he gets in the league, it will be harder to work on the small things.
Leonard is a guy that is improving each year. Yes, he can go in this year and get a million a year. But if he keeps improving at his current rate, he can wait a year and go in for 3 million.
My point---wait a year for more total income.
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Post by sdsportfan on Jan 27, 2011 19:12:15 GMT -8
Jimmer not a team player?
Fisher said during his last Hooley's show... KL is either a lottery pick or he's staying here! I would expect he meant High in the draft of stay here
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