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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2010 11:15:20 GMT -8
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Post by aztecwin on May 28, 2010 11:29:01 GMT -8
Very interesting. The statment about provided Fox12 Idaho with special information is more reason to think that something is up than any of the other data. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2010 11:38:16 GMT -8
Very interesting. The statment about provided Fox12 Idaho with special information is more reason to think that something is up than any of the other data. There isn't any reason which I can think of why the MWC would have invited Boise media members to Jackson Hole if Boise wasn't going to be invited. Yeah, no formal vote has been taken but my guess is Craig Thompson has already telephonically polled the nine presidents and he knows there are seven votes for Boise. |
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Post by aztecx on May 28, 2010 12:36:47 GMT -8
I don't understand how Boise helps us at this point. If Boise leaves the WAC for the MWC, that is just one more tougher game for all the members of the MWC. This means we will just spend time beating each other up and making our records look worse. If Boise leaves the WAC, then some team like Fresno or Nevada will just have a cakewalk to an undefeated season and they will qualify for the BCS. We shouldn't take Boise unless that guarentees the MWC an auto bid. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2010 13:01:42 GMT -8
The head honcho of the BCS on the Boise sportstalk station yesterday:
There’s been a lot of analysis of the BCS formula that determines automatic qualifying into BCS bowls as it pertains to how Boise State would affect the Mountain West’s chances. The consensus is usually that BSU in itself wouldn’t be enough to get the MWC over the hump. Well, Hancock should know the recipe as well as anyone. “I just can’t see how it would do anything but help the Mountain West in terms of their AQ status,” said Hancock. ”It will be very interesting to see how the four-year evaluation comes out after the next two seasons.”
If SDSU and the conference's other bottom feeders pick it up, the MWC will gain AQ status. Because of the formula, adding Boise requires us to pick it up to a lesser degree.
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Post by sancarlosaztec on May 28, 2010 13:59:46 GMT -8
Of course, how much does any of this matter if the re-alignment dominoes start to fall and the soon to be super conferences raid the top of the MWC?
Even if they leave the MWC alone a re-alignment could leave the MWC out in the cold with respect to the big time $$$$.
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Post by laaztec on May 28, 2010 14:32:13 GMT -8
I am down with Boise in the MWC. Football drives the bus. Even though I hate the Blue turf I think they will help the conference. If they get an invite ESPN is going to have to talk about the MWC every time Boise is on. Love it.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 28, 2010 15:07:24 GMT -8
"In regards to football games not being on TV, BYU has had every single football game broadcast since the new TV deal started in the fall of 2006. Utah and TCU have only had their one FCS game each year not televised. The exception to that would be the Utah/San Jose State game this season," said Hedlund.
And what does this statement tell us? Let's see - BYU has had every game on the Mt. Utah and TCU have had every game except one FCS game no televised. So basically, the big 3, and in particular, BYU, get every game on the Mt. and it appears Boise would get the same preference while those of us who are not BYU might not get certain games televised because the Mt. is really nothing more than an expanded version of the old Blue and White Network.
=Bob
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Post by aztecx on May 28, 2010 15:14:11 GMT -8
"In regards to football games not being on TV, BYU has had every single football game broadcast since the new TV deal started in the fall of 2006. Utah and TCU have only had their one FCS game each year not televised. The exception to that would be the Utah/San Jose State game this season," said Hedlund.And what does this statement tell us? Let's see - BYU has had every game on the Mt. Utah and TCU have had every game except one FCS game no televised. So basically, the big 3, and in particular, BYU, get every game on the Mt. and it appears Boise would get the same preference while those of us who are not BYU might not get certain games televised because the Mt. is really nothing more than an expanded version of the old Blue and White Network. =Bob Those teams are on the most because they have played the best and people want to see them. I think the mtn does a pretty good job of getting everyone on tv |
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Post by ron on May 28, 2010 15:26:20 GMT -8
I don't mind the idea of Boise St. joining the league. I just hate that ugly ass field.
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Post by azteclovers on May 28, 2010 18:26:24 GMT -8
Adding Boise is terrible descision long-term for the MWC.
The only thing Boise brings to the table is a football program that has had some recent success. It does not bring a big market with a large number of viewers and it doesn't bring any prestige or money to the table. It is also in Idaho. Who wants to travel there for a game?
But worst of all the only reason for the success at Boise is the coaching staff. If the coaching staff jumps ship which is only a matter of time Boise goes back to being another small market lower tier program with bad academics and a poor location. Short-term it will help the MWC with obtaining AQ status but long-term this looks to be a loser much like the WAC going to 16 teams.
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Post by azteclovers on May 28, 2010 18:28:35 GMT -8
Adding Boise is terrible descision long-term for the MWC.
The only thing Boise brings to the table is a football program that has had some recent success. It does not bring a big market with a large number of viewers and it doesn't bring any prestige or money to the table. It is also in Idaho. Who wants to travel there for a game?
But worst of all the only reason for the success at Boise is the coaching staff. If the coaching staff jumps ship which is only a matter of time Boise goes back to being another small market lower tier program with bad academics and a poor location. Short-term it will help the MWC with obtaining AQ status but long-term this looks to be a loser much like the WAC going to 16 teams.
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Post by steveaztec on May 28, 2010 19:33:11 GMT -8
Adding Boise is terrible descision long-term for the MWC. The only thing Boise brings to the table is a football program that has had some recent success. It does not bring a big market with a large number of viewers and it doesn't bring any prestige or money to the table. It is also in Idaho. Who wants to travel there for a game? But worst of all the only reason for the success at Boise is the coaching staff. If the coaching staff jumps ship which is only a matter of time Boise goes back to being another small market lower tier program with bad academics and a poor location. Short-term it will help the MWC with obtaining AQ status but long-term this looks to be a loser much like the WAC going to 16 teams. The last couple of Boise staffs have jumped ship and they are still rolling. Boise Idaho is a city. One of the fastest growing areas in the Northwest. I would welcome Boise State. (Hate the field) |
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Post by Doug Drake on May 28, 2010 21:11:49 GMT -8
Good for the overall strength of the MWC and even better if it helps us achieve BCS status down the road. They will not being going undefeated every year however. Lousy in that SDSU probably just falls further to the back of the pack.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on May 29, 2010 7:57:46 GMT -8
I hope not. At least not as a single addition.
West
SDSU
FSU
UNLV
UNR
BYU
UTAH
East
BSU
WYO
AFA
CSU
UNM
TCU
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Post by monty on May 29, 2010 8:18:23 GMT -8
If people are going to argue that Boise doesn't bring anything to the table, they can't honestly think fresno and UNR do.
And as was noted above, Boise is on their 3rd or so staff and have continued their success - Boise is not a fad in college football, they are the real deal.
I don't care if they come or not, though they might be helpful when the MWC comes up for a waiver to be an AQ.
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Post by steveaztec on May 29, 2010 8:33:54 GMT -8
If people are going to argue that Boise doesn't bring anything to the table, they can't honestly think fresno and UNR do. And as was noted above, Boise is on their 3rd or so staff and have continued their success - Boise is not a fad in college football, they are the real deal. I don't care if they come or not, though they might be helpful when the MWC comes up for a waiver to be an AQ. Another thing Monty, I think many are thinking Bosie is this sleepy litle town in Idaho. It isn't. It is big and growing fast. It is a very nice city that is starting to appeal to many. Boise is no Ft. Collings, Laramie, Provo. Wikipedia says about 600,000 live in the Boise area as of 2008. The city of Boise is becoming a major player in the Northwest. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boise_idaho |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on May 29, 2010 8:41:40 GMT -8
I think adding Boise would only make the MWC stronger, and would force the hands of the BCS people to give our conference AQ status - and that would only help the Aztecs long term.
Bring Boise in!
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2010 9:59:23 GMT -8
Adding Boise is terrible descision long-term for the MWC. The only thing Boise brings to the table is a football program that has had some recent success. It does not bring a big market with a large number of viewers and it doesn't bring any prestige or money to the table. It is also in Idaho. Who wants to travel there for a game? But worst of all the only reason for the success at Boise is the coaching staff. If the coaching staff jumps ship which is only a matter of time Boise goes back to being another small market lower tier program with bad academics and a poor location. Short-term it will help the MWC with obtaining AQ status but long-term this looks to be a loser much like the WAC going to 16 teams. The last couple of Boise staffs have jumped ship and they are still rolling. BIG +1. No president of any school in the country is more committed to football than Boise's Bob Kustra. They won't go undefeated again playing in the Mountain West but they'll be as good as BYU. And like BYU, even if they have an assclown like Gary Crowton, he'll be gone in three years just like Crowton and then things will be just like they were before the assclown arrived. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2010 11:03:05 GMT -8
This will kill the WAC. Bye, Bye SJSU football
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