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Post by johneaztec on Jan 13, 2011 17:39:43 GMT -8
Craft was an excellent OC.. but don't think he runs the proset. Our point total when he was OC was ridiculous! This.
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 13, 2011 17:41:17 GMT -8
First time he left and went to Palomar he discused how much he disliked recruiting. Just wanted to coach. Link. I know him well and that aint true.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2011 17:41:54 GMT -8
Craft was an excellent OC.. but don't think he runs the proset. Our point total when he was OC was ridiculous! This. It doesn't matter what offense Craft runs nor whether or not Rocky is impressed with him. He simply isn't going to be hired by SDSU ever again.
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 13, 2011 17:43:20 GMT -8
Craft would do a great job as OC. I agree that Tom Craft would do a great job, but we just can not use the turmoil.
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Jan 13, 2011 17:45:54 GMT -8
It doesn't matter what offense Craft runs nor whether or not Rocky is impressed with him. He simply isn't going to be hired by SDSU ever again. That is what they said about Gilbert after they stabbed him in the back thirty years ago. Since they stabbed Tom in the back, there is always that possibility. Tom was the greatest recruiter we ever had. If he was ever given the opportunity to coach his recruits as Juniors and Seniors, we would have had a very impressive record instead of the disgusting performance of Chuck Long.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2011 17:55:13 GMT -8
It doesn't matter what offense Craft runs nor whether or not Rocky is impressed with him. He simply isn't going to be hired by SDSU ever again. That is what they said about Gilbert after they stabbed him in the back thirty years ago. Since they stabbed Tom in the back, there is always that possibility. Tom was the greatest recruiter we ever had. If he was ever given the opportunity to coach his recruits as Juniors and Seniors, we would have had a very impressive record instead of the disgusting performance of Chuck Long. Well if Jeff Schemmel had hired either Rocky Long or Jimbo Fisher in 2005 there's no telling how much grief could have been saved and how much money could have been earned so we certainly agree there. However, we probably don't agree on Craft. No need to repeat rumors so I'll just say that I've heard from enough people in the know that he pretty much made his own bed with off-the-field shananigans to believe that's the main reason he was fired, not his W-L record. BTW, if you could stay the kinder, gentler guy you've been over the last week, I wish you would post more often like you used to. You and I may often disagree but that doesn't mean I think you never contribute anything useful. Quite the opposite, actually.
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 13, 2011 18:03:40 GMT -8
That is what they said about Gilbert after they stabbed him in the back thirty years ago. Since they stabbed Tom in the back, there is always that possibility. Tom was the greatest recruiter we ever had. If he was ever given the opportunity to coach his recruits as Juniors and Seniors, we would have had a very impressive record instead of the disgusting performance of Chuck Long. Well if Jeff Schemmel had hired either Rocky Long or Jimbo Fisher in 2005 there's no telling how much grief could have been saved and how much money could have been earned so we certainly agree there. However, we probably don't agree on Craft. No need to repeat rumors so I'll just say that I've heard from enough people in the know that he pretty much made his own bed with off-the-field shananigans to believe that's the main reason he was fired, not his W-L record. BTW, if you could stay the kinder, gentler guy you've been over the last week, I wish you would post more often like you used to. You and I may often disagree but that doesn't mean I think you never contribute anything useful. Quite the opposite, actually. No, Schemmel wanted his own guy in there. His first hire. That didn't work out for him.
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Post by spaztecs on Jan 13, 2011 18:14:36 GMT -8
Most people don't remember the last time we beat both Utah and BYU in the same year, Craft was HC, look how many of his recruits are in the NFL. He got worked over by the local media and when Schemmel came in he let him go to get his guy, sorry as Chuck Long, that has to be the worst HC since I can remember. Craft would be a good OC but not after he got treated.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jan 13, 2011 18:50:27 GMT -8
Wasn't Craft OC when Blanton played QB? Yes. Top ten in 1996. And realizing he had nobody to replace Blanton, he bailed. =Bob
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jan 13, 2011 18:52:03 GMT -8
First time he left and went to Palomar he discused how much he disliked recruiting. Just wanted to coach. Link. I know him well and that aint true. Which is why anything you have to say on the subject should be rejected. =Bob
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jan 13, 2011 18:53:24 GMT -8
It doesn't matter what offense Craft runs nor whether or not Rocky is impressed with him. He simply isn't going to be hired by SDSU ever again. That is what they said about Gilbert after they stabbed him in the back thirty years ago. Nobody said that about Claude. =Bob
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jan 13, 2011 18:58:29 GMT -8
Most people don't remember the last time we beat both Utah and BYU in the same year, Craft was HC, look how many of his recruits are in the NFL. He got worked over by the local media and when Schemmel came in he let him go to get his guy, sorry as Chuck Long, that has to be the worst HC since I can remember. Craft would be a good OC but not after he got treated. They weren't his recruits for the most part. But that aside, he finished 5-7, losing to a 4-7 AFA team and a 2-9 UNLV team. Going on forever about beating mediocre Utah and MIP teams simply fits his profile of winning the 2nd half. =Bob
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jan 13, 2011 19:00:58 GMT -8
Craft was an excellent OC.. but don't think he runs the proset. Our point total when he was OC was ridiculous! Billy Blanton, George Jones, Az Hakim, Will Blackwell, and several future NFL O-linemen were the reason.
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 13, 2011 19:06:58 GMT -8
And realizing he had nobody to replace Blanton, he bailed. =Bob Hello ass, here's head.
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 13, 2011 19:10:23 GMT -8
Link. I know him well and that aint true. Which is why anything you have to say on the subject should be rejected. =Bob No, since I happen to know him well, I can squash the bull$#!+ that comes out of the pie holes like yours. I've always said that I understand why he was let go. I understand his faults and mentioned them as well on other threads. I just don't think he was as bad as alot of people on here make him out to be.
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 13, 2011 19:11:53 GMT -8
Most people don't remember the last time we beat both Utah and BYU in the same year, Craft was HC, look how many of his recruits are in the NFL. He got worked over by the local media and when Schemmel came in he let him go to get his guy, sorry as Chuck Long, that has to be the worst HC since I can remember. Craft would be a good OC but not after he got treated. They weren't his recruits for the most part. But that aside, he finished 5-7, losing to a 4-7 AFA team and a 2-9 UNLV team. Going on forever about beating mediocre Utah and MIP teams simply fits his profile of winning the 2nd half. =Bob They weren't mostly his recruits? You continually expose your lack of football knowledge, almost daily.
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Post by North County Aztec on Jan 13, 2011 19:13:46 GMT -8
Snowballs in hell have more of a chance becoming the OC than TC, Saw is delusional.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Jan 13, 2011 19:31:37 GMT -8
This thread is the reason why there is no way he should be asked back, good, bad or indifferent. We need to move on from the past.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 13, 2011 20:04:54 GMT -8
We need the best possible OC. If that's Craft, then I'm all for it. The guy knows how to run an offense.
He's older, wiser, and has even more coaching experience under his belt now. He'd make one hell of a D1 OC.
If someone else is a better OC and a better fit then someone else should get the gig. None of us work with Rocky so we don't know what's going on or who is being considered.
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 13, 2011 21:33:59 GMT -8
We need the best possible OC. If that's Craft, then I'm all for it. The guy knows how to run an offense. He's older, wiser, and has even more coaching experience under his belt now. He'd make one hell of a D1 OC. If someone else is a better OC and a better fit then someone else should get the gig. None of us work with Rocky so we don't know what's going on or who is being considered. EXACTLY. Thank goodness Rocky's picking, and not some posters here with a grudge.
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