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Post by k5james on Jun 2, 2010 13:48:14 GMT -8
I thought I'd get a jump start on this as the Padres continue to stay on top of the NL West.
Obviously our biggest need is another bat. I think we can all agree that OF, especially the corner OF spots are the only place we can really afford to make a move.
I think Corey Hart should be our #1 target. Nice pop, deceptively fast. His D and plate discipline need some work but he'd be equal to or an upgrade on any of the players we currently have in the OF. The Pads would also control him til 2011.
Now the tough question. What would it take to get him from the Brewers?
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 2, 2010 14:01:05 GMT -8
Nice call James! OF is the only position I think we need to strengthen.
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 2, 2010 15:18:52 GMT -8
Nice call James! OF is the only position I think we need to strengthen. SS also Regarding Hart he would be perfect for this team as absolutely kills lefties he has a ton of power, he has a ton of power his ISO S is at 331 that is second best in the majors. The problem will be there will be a lot of players for Hart and his value is very high with how cheap he is, at this point the Padres don't want to give up any of there really good prospects right now. |
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 2, 2010 15:26:46 GMT -8
It is a while before we make a trade and in that time we should get some answers. We have a number of young players who hit well in the last two months last year but aren't hitting so far.
Gwynn
Blanks
Cabrera
We should be able to get a better idea which of these might start to hit. Then we can decide where to improve. I suspect we will try to replace one of those. We might actually trade the player we are trying to replace and a reliever.
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 2, 2010 15:35:43 GMT -8
It is a while before we make a trade and in that time we should get some answers. We have a number of young players who hit well in the last two months last year but aren't hitting so far. Gwynn Blanks Cabrera We should be able to get a better idea which of these might start to hit. Then we can decide where to improve. I suspect we will try to replace one of those. We might actually trade the player we are trying to replace and a reliever. Gwynn had a lucky 2 months and all of sudden he is good he is just a AAAA bat with good defense, he can be a 5th OF but nothing more, Blanks will probably stay at AAA the rest of the year and they will probably stick with Cabrera and Jerry at short. So that means we need at least 1 big OF bat |
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 2, 2010 15:59:26 GMT -8
Nice call James! OF is the only position I think we need to strengthen. SS also Regarding Hart he would be perfect for this team as absolutely kills lefties he has a ton of power, he has a ton of power his ISO S is at 331 that is second best in the majors. The problem will be there will be a lot of players for Hart and his value is very high with how cheap he is, at this point the Padres don't want to give up any of there really good prospects right now. SS, no. We have Cabrera and Hairston. We are just fine. |
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 2, 2010 16:02:51 GMT -8
SS also Regarding Hart he would be perfect for this team as absolutely kills lefties he has a ton of power, he has a ton of power his ISO S is at 331 that is second best in the majors. The problem will be there will be a lot of players for Hart and his value is very high with how cheap he is, at this point the Padres don't want to give up any of there really good prospects right now. SS, no. We have Cabrera and Hairston. We are just fine. You just named 2 guys that have been horrible this year |
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 2, 2010 16:57:20 GMT -8
SS, no. We have Cabrera and Hairston. We are just fine. You just named 2 guys that have been horrible this year And Jose Reyes has a .295 OBP as a leadoff hitter. Should the Mets trade him? Cabrera showed what he could do last year. Gwynn had a .379 OBP against right handed pitchers last year in almost 400 PA. That speaks louder to me now than his current struggles. I think the Padres need to give him time to work out of his current slump. |
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 2, 2010 17:25:11 GMT -8
SS, no. We have Cabrera and Hairston. We are just fine. You just named 2 guys that have been horrible this year philip you do realize that Cabrera is our SS now and for years to come right? |
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 3, 2010 8:51:04 GMT -8
You just named 2 guys that have been horrible this year And Jose Reyes has a .295 OBP as a leadoff hitter. Should the Mets trade him? Cabrera showed what he could do last year. Gwynn had a .379 OBP against right handed pitchers last year in almost 400 PA. That speaks louder to me now than his current struggles. I think the Padres need to give him time to work out of his current slump. Just on queue, Gwynn enters the game late and starts two rallies. A leadoff single and a steal of second in the 9th to tie the game and a leadoff double in the 11th. Once the Padres tied the game in the 9th, I really liked their chances since the Mets bullpen is terrible. |
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Post by aztecinoz on Jun 6, 2010 5:30:00 GMT -8
You just named 2 guys that have been horrible this year philip you do realize that Cabrera is our SS now and for years to come right? I agree with tom on this. We can afford to have Cabrera at SS even if he is not producing O he is invaluable with his D. Agree with everyone else as well that more than likely we will go after a corner OF spot. |
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 6, 2010 9:53:46 GMT -8
Its debatable whether he is the SS of the future, but they will give him a chance so we aren't going to make a trade there.
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 7, 2010 19:48:28 GMT -8
You just named 2 guys that have been horrible this year And Jose Reyes has a .295 OBP as a leadoff hitter. Should the Mets trade him? Cabrera showed what he could do last year. Gwynn had a .379 OBP against right handed pitchers last year in almost 400 PA. That speaks louder to me now than his current struggles. I think the Padres need to give him time to work out of his current slump. Gwynn is fine as a 8 hitter he has shown that, he can't handle the pressure hitting leadoff, also it takes time for guys to get scouting reports and how to pitch them. As for saying they need to give Gwynn a chance to work out of his slumps, they already have, and even though he has been better of late, he is a 200 slap hitter that isn't hitting well lead off, very little value in that. He has 134 Ab's this season thats a good amount of AB's, also 700 + in his career. Last thing, the Padres don't really need to give him a chance to devolop like they do with Latos and Blanks, he is 27 and not really in the teams future starting plans, they need to do whatever is best for the team to win As for Reyes, the Mets can't trade him because of his salary, but yes he is horrible as well. |
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 8, 2010 9:21:51 GMT -8
Gwynn is fine as a 8 hitter he has shown that, he can't handle the pressure hitting leadoff... Your idea of "proof" amazes me. Gwynn has always shown a good ability to get on base when leading off an inning. That is the only requirement that differentiates batting #1 in the a lineup. I know you don't value defense as much as I do, but you might find this ESPN article interesting. It talks about defense and Tony Gwynn. The article was spurred by this play. |
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 8, 2010 11:27:40 GMT -8
I value defense a lot which is why I'm fine with Gwynn on the squad. Also he has a 333 obp leading off an inning, not very good especially when you count in how many of his hits have actually been for extra bases
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 8, 2010 11:38:46 GMT -8
I value defense a lot which is why I'm fine with Gwynn on the squad. Also he has a 333 obp leading off an inning, not very good especially when you count in how many of his hits have actually been for extra bases I never said you didn't value defense. Gwynn should be leading off against all right handed pitchers except ones that live on 95+ fastballs. The fact that his power nunmbers are not good is another reason for him to lead off, if he plays. |
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 14, 2010 9:55:07 GMT -8
Gwynn last 14 games: .389 .463 .639 1.102
He has been killing lefthanders. It could be that I was wrong about him not playing against lefties. Especially with Blanks in AAA, Gwynn should get more time against lefties.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 14, 2010 12:33:56 GMT -8
...Also he has a 333 obp leading off an inning, not very good especially when you count in how many of his hits have actually been for extra bases Gwynn has had a 700+ SLG since you said that. Could you say someting bad about Venable's hitting, please. |
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Post by k5james on Jun 14, 2010 13:51:28 GMT -8
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Post by 83aztec on Jun 14, 2010 13:59:25 GMT -8
Only mid June. More baseball to be played before I see a trade. |
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