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Post by Pssst13 on Jan 2, 2011 4:23:17 GMT -8
Can some of you folks explain why you are so upset at Steve's post? He is only sharing insider information that regular folks like me do not have access to. I don't think Steve would make up something like this. Don't most of you dislike the Zuma? Why wouldn't you want this kind of info?
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Post by Steve Aztec on Jan 2, 2011 8:48:08 GMT -8
Hear say? Are you able to read and comprehend? That came from the head of the mascot committee and one of the 5/6 board members of the mascot committee. You talk about sticking your head in the sand? ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Is this so called committee member willing to go on the record? If not it is hear say. Get a life. Not if he wants to keep his job...and most people do.
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Post by Steve Aztec on Jan 2, 2011 8:56:40 GMT -8
Steve, Is the following quote taken from one of your posts on the opening page true, and is there a way to verify this? I'm concerned about the word "allegedly." Is he leaving and are they not looking to find a replacement? If so, that would be a pretty huge smoking gun. Mike (Aztec Warrior) has told the admins that he is leaving. There has been no effort to replace him. There is no back up at this time (which was part of the original agreement when the Aztec Warrior was officially named the mascot). Mike (Aztec Warrior) does not want to leave the University high and dry and "may" come back. But he doesn't want to come back. He wants to move on. He will make his decision after the school year. If Mike decides to not come back. There will be no Aztec Warrior, only Zuma. Smoking Gun? Oh yes kickaztec.
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Post by Steve Aztec on Jan 2, 2011 9:02:26 GMT -8
Can some of you folks explain why you are so upset at Steve's post? He is only sharing insider information that regular folks like me do not have access to. I don't think Steve would make up something like this. Don't most of you dislike the Zuma? Why wouldn't you want this kind of info? Your first sentence is what I don't get 13. Very bizarre.
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Post by JOCAZTEC on Jan 2, 2011 9:33:24 GMT -8
The only problem I have with Zuma as supplemental, is that it's being pushed into the limelight all the time and the Aztec Warrior is getting much less attention from the admins. Aren't "supplemental"s a banned substance by ncaa rules which allow your father to receive $190,000 cash if you play in the SEC but if you play in the MWC you are in violation if the school lets you use loaner towels on a public beach? HAM
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Post by joshjones1 on Jan 2, 2011 9:48:36 GMT -8
Hey RockShow: You are young, you don't know the history, you weren't involved, so just F*** off. Thanks, The Rest Of Us That Give a Sh*t. Steve doesn't know what the X X X X he is talking about. Let's not pander or give credence to his hearsay. I think he gets some kind of sick pleasure about riling people up one way or the other. I don't even want to post because it just bumps this thread again but it really is embarrassing how much this gets discussed. I feel like if we all put on our big kid hats and glasses we can look at what's going on with the paranoia surrounding 2 X X X X ing college kids in a furry jaguar costume and laugh at the utter lunacy regarding a pulled-out-of-a-nutjob's-ass random speculations and contrived musings. Also, please don't respond to this post Steve. I'm sure that deep down you have good intentions and are a passionate, nice guy. I just really don't give a $#!+ about whatever the hell you might have to say. And according to my crazy conspiracy theory, neither do 98% of the people on this board. And you're what, the almighty voice of reason?
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Post by joshjones1 on Jan 2, 2011 9:49:54 GMT -8
Steve, Is the following quote taken from one of your posts on the opening page true, and is there a way to verify this? I'm concerned about the word "allegedly." Is he leaving and are they not looking to find a replacement? If so, that would be a pretty huge smoking gun. Mike (Aztec Warrior) has told the admins that he is leaving. There has been no effort to replace him. There is no back up at this time (which was part of the original agreement when the Aztec Warrior was officially named the mascot). Mike (Aztec Warrior) does not want to leave the University high and dry and "may" come back. But he doesn't want to come back. He wants to move on. He will make his decision after the school year. If Mike decides to not come back. There will be no Aztec Warrior, only Zuma. Smoking Gun? Oh yes kickaztec. So you're 100% certain no effort is or will be made for a replacement? Somehow I doubt you can be sure of that.
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Post by Steve Aztec on Jan 2, 2011 9:59:13 GMT -8
Mike (Aztec Warrior) has told the admins that he is leaving. There has been no effort to replace him. There is no back up at this time (which was part of the original agreement when the Aztec Warrior was officially named the mascot). Mike (Aztec Warrior) does not want to leave the University high and dry and "may" come back. But he doesn't want to come back. He wants to move on. He will make his decision after the school year. If Mike decides to not come back. There will be no Aztec Warrior, only Zuma. Smoking Gun? Oh yes kickaztec. So you're 100% certain no effort is or will be made for a replacement? Somehow I doubt you can be sure of that. Josh, you have to be kidding me. Some of my best friends are on the mascot committee. I was on the committee for 3 years. There are about 7 people in this town that know the Mascot issue inside and out. I am one of those 7. Why the hell do people think I post on this issue? And are there really people out there that DON'T think I know the issue?
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Post by joshjones1 on Jan 2, 2011 10:00:35 GMT -8
So you're 100% certain no effort is or will be made for a replacement? Somehow I doubt you can be sure of that. Josh, you have to be kidding me. Some of my best friends are on the mascot committee. I was on the committe for 3 years. There are about 7 people in this town that know the Mascot issue inside and out. I am one of those 7. Why the hell do people think I post on this issue? And are there really people out there that DON'T think I know the issue? Okay, you're going on record as saying.......If Mike doesn't want to be the Warrior next year, SDSU athletics is simply not going to have a Warrior at all? That's what you're claiming?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 10:02:05 GMT -8
I agree with Rockshow. Guy must have good genes or something.
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Post by Steve Aztec on Jan 2, 2011 10:05:52 GMT -8
Josh, you have to be kidding me. Some of my best friends are on the mascot committee. I was on the committe for 3 years. There are about 7 people in this town that know the Mascot issue inside and out. I am one of those 7. Why the hell do people think I post on this issue? And are there really people out there that DON'T think I know the issue? Okay, you're going on record as saying.......If Mike doesn't want to be the Warrior next year, SDSU athletics is simply not going to have a Warrior at all? That's what you're claiming? Josh, have you not read what I've been posting or you just are not able to retain it. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I have said that it takes about 1 year to get a Warrior Mascot ready. Interview, hire, train (which a new one should be doing right now), and workouts. There is no back up at this time and we are 9 months away from football starting again. There has been no ad put out for an opening. If Mike does not come back, at this time we have NO replacement and have not tried to find a replacement. I am not "claiming" anything. I am stating the facts as I know them.
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Post by joshjones1 on Jan 2, 2011 10:11:43 GMT -8
Steve, with all due respect, I've had to call you on BS before. Let's not forget all those Sooner QB's you had claimed Long coached and recruited, although they arrived BEFORE Chuck. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) We'll see what happens.
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Post by JOCAZTEC on Jan 2, 2011 10:19:01 GMT -8
Some of my best friends are on the mascot committee. I was on the committee for 3 years. There are about 7 people in this town that know the Mascot issue inside and out. I am one of those 7. Why the hell do people think I post on this issue? And are there really people out there that DON'T think I know the issue? Saztec? Remember years ago when I said to you, "An uninformed opinion is just as good as an informed opinion when you are on the internet?" If we could harness all the under 33 year old, male know-it-alls, the nation could become energy independent in an hour... ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) "...just cause you was on da committee, doesn't make you know what the committee was doing, thinking, talking about, voting on...." :spitonthegroundface: Now, add the recalcitrant posters who refuse to change based upon your experience, or, in the least, adopt an Aztec post name...:almostvomitingface: HAM
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Post by Steve Aztec on Jan 2, 2011 10:20:17 GMT -8
Steve, with all due respect, I've had to call you on BS before. Let's not forget all those Sooner QB's you had claimed Long coached and recruited, although they arrived BEFORE Chuck. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) We'll see what happens. So lets put things in perspective Josh. I have about 60,000 posts over the years and you called me out on one post that you think you were right on? Seems like your batting avg is a little low there Josh. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I say "think" because I don't remember what you are talking about.
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Post by Steve Aztec on Jan 2, 2011 10:22:26 GMT -8
Some of my best friends are on the mascot committee. I was on the committee for 3 years. There are about 7 people in this town that know the Mascot issue inside and out. I am one of those 7. Why the hell do people think I post on this issue? And are there really people out there that DON'T think I know the issue? Saztec? Remember years ago when I said to you, "An uninformed opinion is just as good as an informed opinion when you are on the internet?" If we could harness all the under 33 year old, male know-it-alls, the nation could become energy independent in an hour... ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) "...just cause you was on da committee, doesn't make you know what the committee was doing, thinking, talking about, voting on...." :spitonthegroundface: Now, add the recalcitrant posters who refuse to change based upon your experience, or, in the least, adopt an Aztec post name...:almostvomitingface: HAM JOC...It just blows my mind. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Ohhh, to be young and naive again. What a simple time of life that is.
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Post by joshjones1 on Jan 2, 2011 10:44:19 GMT -8
Saztec? Remember years ago when I said to you, "An uninformed opinion is just as good as an informed opinion when you are on the internet?" If we could harness all the under 33 year old, male know-it-alls, the nation could become energy independent in an hour... ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) "...just cause you was on da committee, doesn't make you know what the committee was doing, thinking, talking about, voting on...." :spitonthegroundface: Now, add the recalcitrant posters who refuse to change based upon your experience, or, in the least, adopt an Aztec post name...:almostvomitingface: HAM JOC...It just blows my mind. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Ohhh, to be young and naive again. What a simple time of life that is. LMAO...right, because JOC is the definition of reason and wisdom. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Like I said Steve, I am not saying you're right, nor wrong. I don't have enough facts to support either way. The AAF or "Aztec Club" appears to lose financially if the Aztec Warrior is tabled yet again, we'll see if SDSU admins are "that dumb" or if they learned from last time.
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Post by joshjones1 on Jan 2, 2011 10:45:01 GMT -8
Steve, with all due respect, I've had to call you on BS before. Let's not forget all those Sooner QB's you had claimed Long coached and recruited, although they arrived BEFORE Chuck. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) We'll see what happens. So lets put things in perspective Josh. I have about 60,000 posts over the years and you called me out on one post that you think you were right on? Seems like your batting avg is a little low there Josh. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I say "think" because I don't remember what you are talking about. Uhhhh....alot more than one. But I won't go there. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Cheers
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Post by bigdog41 on Jan 2, 2011 10:57:22 GMT -8
Stop your rumors and half truths saztec. If you don't like Zuma then that is your problem. Your make up a small vocal minority.
The kids like ZUMA and ZUMA is staying. An Admin (who is actually on the mascot committee as a go between between the committee and Dr. Weber) recently over heard some Aztec fans tailgating. One of the tailgaters is currently on the Mascot Committee and has been since the Aztec Warrior was officially brought on. These tailgating Aztec fans were complaining about Zuma. The Admin (who is on the current mascot committee as the go between with Dr. Weber) walked up to his co committee member and said... "You guys were duped on Zuma"I have found out thru friends who are still on the mascot committee (of which I was on until 2 years ago) how it went down. _________________________________________________ The following is from a person who was in that meeting and here is how it was explained to me... Brian Sipe had some new ideas that he wanted implement (Warrior Walk, Black Cloud/Swarm, Honorary Aztec). He was brought into the mascot committee meeting to express them.
At that meeting an Admin explained the new ideas and threw Zuma into the mix of ideas. Since Brian Sipe really doesn't know the history of Monty, Aztec Warrior, and Zuma (like us who were involved), he never said it was his idea or that it wasn't his idea.
Zuma was to be a supplemental mascot, cater to the kids, be in the concourse area, not conflict with the Aztec Warrior, stay off the field and not play a major mascot role.
While these ideas were being explained to the committee, the admin that reports to Dr. Weber stayed silent.
Since Brain Sipe had some great ideas and this Zuma idea was introduced as part of his plan (and really wasn't), the mascot committee went along with the idea, feeling that the admins were telling the truth on what part Zuma would play.
The mascot committee is made up of 2 Admins and 4/5 alums.
The 2 Admins on the committee are the creator of Zuma and the go between with Dr. Weber.
____________________________________________________Can somebody tell me why the Admin that is the lead of that mascot committee would come to another mascot committee member about 6 weeks ago and say... "You guys were duped on Zuma?"Is it a coincidence that the Mike Lopez (the Aztec Warrior) is allegedly leaving and there has not been an ad put in for a new Warrior and there is no back up? ____________________________________________________ For gaduates like Campanile...here is what dupe means... From Dictionary.com dupe1 /dup, dyup/ Show Spelled [doop, dyoop] Show IPA noun, verb, duped, dup·ing. –noun 1. a person who is easily deceived or fooled; gull. 2. a person who unquestioningly or unwittingly serves a cause or another person: a dupe of the opponents. –verb (used with object) 3. to make a dupe of; deceive; delude; trick.
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Post by classaztec on Jan 2, 2011 11:20:12 GMT -8
Steve, Is the following quote taken from one of your posts on the opening page true, and is there a way to verify this? I'm concerned about the word "allegedly." Is he leaving and are they not looking to find a replacement? If so, that would be a pretty huge smoking gun. Mike (Aztec Warrior) has told the admins that he is leaving. There has been no effort to replace him. There is no back up at this time (which was part of the original agreement when the Aztec Warrior was officially named the mascot). Mike (Aztec Warrior) does not want to leave the University high and dry and "may" come back. But he doesn't want to come back. He wants to move on. He will make his decision after the school year. If Mike decides to not come back. There will be no Aztec Warrior, only Zuma. Smoking Gun? Oh yes kickaztec. Sigh. I don't want to respond again. But I will. Mike has been making lots of efforts to find replacements. At least 3 have been interested but we all know our Aztec warrior has to be able to look and act the part and be totally committed. Not easy to find. Mike and Carlos are very invested in trying to find someone to replace Mike, who graduated a year ago. Just because there isn't a replacement now doesn't mean there won't be and zuma is just going to be the sdsu mascot for all time. Steve's random circumstances represent neither causation nor correlation. Maybe there should be ads put out for a new warrior.. I suppose that would help. But let's just stop drumming up random stuff. Or not. I don't give a $#!+.
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Post by azclown on Jan 2, 2011 11:29:51 GMT -8
Stop your rumors and half truths saztec. If you don't like Zuma then that is your problem. Your make up a small vocal minority.
The kids like ZUMA and ZUMA is staying. Kids at one time liked Michael Jackson, sometimes the adults have to know whats best.
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