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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 30, 2010 10:29:24 GMT -8
The Greenies hate coal. Obama hates coal. Nevertheless, Old King Coal has no intention of exiting the scene. Says Will of coal. . . "Over the last eight years, it has been the world's fastest-growing fuel." (Side bar: the U.S.A. has been called the Saudi Arabia of coal.) www.ocregister.com/opinion/coal-282096-china-america.htmlAzWm PS: This thread would seem to belong in a section called "Environmental Issues." We don't have one, and I am somewhat reluctant to add a new section. If I did, I would then be tempted to add another devoted to education, and then another devoted to national defense, and another . . . well you get the idea. |
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 6, 2011 19:23:48 GMT -8
We need to turn this unmistakably political and it will be in the right place.
Algore would rather burn 10,000 gals of Avgas than let you burn one kilowatt of coal generated electricity.
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Jan 6, 2011 20:21:15 GMT -8
We win either way. If we burn it, we cut down on imports of foreign oil. If we leave it in the ground, we are saving an energy source for the future when the price of coal will be ten times what it is now.
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 7, 2011 11:14:10 GMT -8
We win either way. If we burn it, we cut down on imports of foreign oil. If we leave it in the ground, we are saving an energy source for the future when the price of coal will be ten times what it is now. The same thing can be said in reverse. It is to our advantage to pump the Middle East dry of oil by using their oil first, but developing ours and also burning coal. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Jan 7, 2011 11:30:38 GMT -8
We win either way. If we burn it, we cut down on imports of foreign oil. If we leave it in the ground, we are saving an energy source for the future when the price of coal will be ten times what it is now. The same thing can be said in reverse. It is to our advantage to pump the Middle East dry of oil by using their oil first, but developing ours and also burning coal. That, of course, is exactly what we have been doing for the past half century. We have been feeding the stupid Arabs reports of far larger resources than they actually have, and they have been selling their oil at relatively low prices because of their duplicity. |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 8, 2011 12:46:49 GMT -8
Coal is fine as long as we recognize in its market price the downstream costs of mining and burning it. We don't, but we need to. Otherwise, and what we are doing now, we subsidize the expenses of the coal industry.
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 8, 2011 16:22:23 GMT -8
Coal is fine as long as we recognize in its market price the downstream costs of mining and burning it. We don't, but we need to. Otherwise, and what we are doing now, we subsidize the expenses of the coal industry. Coal can be mined and burned cleanly. Just do it! |
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Post by William L. Rupp on Jan 8, 2011 18:45:11 GMT -8
I am as concerned about environmental issues as the next guy, but I also realize that there are a number of different considerations to be weighed when deciding how to meet our power needs. To that end, I think we should at least explore and prepare to drill in a lot of areas that our now off-limits.
And we should not completely turn our backs on coal (as the environmental leftists are determined to do). It's a huge American resource, one that someday could be critical. As I see it, the problem with what I have called environmental-leftists is that they are holding out for a perfect world. They are not bad people, but they are crippled in their thinking by demanding that we create a Utopia. That never has been nor ever will be a reachable goal. Hell, we can't all agree on what a perfect world would be like in the first place. Reality is messy, and deciding what is and is not acceptable environmental degradation is one critical question that has no easy answer.
And, yes, if you were going to ask, I would trade a bit of clean air for enough indigenous recourses with which we could give the finger to the Saudis, Chavez, and any other tin-horn country that likes to take our oil money and then use it to do us harm.
AzWm
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 9, 2011 20:31:55 GMT -8
Coal is fine as long as we recognize in its market price the downstream costs of mining and burning it. We don't, but we need to. Otherwise, and what we are doing now, we subsidize the expenses of the coal industry. Coal can be mined and burned cleanly. Just do it! Are you agreeing with me? |
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Post by sdtosf on Jan 9, 2011 20:55:22 GMT -8
Off Topic
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 10, 2011 14:26:07 GMT -8
Coal can be mined and burned cleanly. Just do it! Are you agreeing with me? That depends on just what you really mean. We can strip mine and restore without getting to either streams or ground water. We can burn with scrubbers. There has to be some acceptable level of confidence in the process to make it economically feasible. |
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