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Post by aztecwin on Dec 29, 2010 9:15:47 GMT -8
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Post by aztecwin on Dec 29, 2010 9:25:22 GMT -8
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Post by aztec70 on Dec 29, 2010 14:42:04 GMT -8
WingNutDaily. ;D
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Post by aztecwin on Dec 29, 2010 14:53:29 GMT -8
Neil Abercrobmbie is just that kind of far out liberal who jumps to action before thinking. He was a UH professor when Obama's Mom was at there with Barack Senior. He is a loyal Democrats so as you can guess is not all that smart. You would think that he would have done a little research before saying that he would settle the issue. Looks like he has found out that either he can't do it or there is something there he does not want to get out. It might not be about his birth, but about his college history or his travel on different passports. Who knows? It is just funny to me since I have known of Abercrombie for decades. Even when he was a local City Councilman in Honolulu. As to "Wing Nut Daily", it is just the messenger. You have got to grow up along with =Bob. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2010 17:26:09 GMT -8
Ya' know win, the reason why Benito Jr. drags this out is because he knows he has the documentation to prove he was born in the US and when his political adversaries continue to harp on this crap it makes them look like rabid, mouth breathing nut cases.
Prediction: whoever this Abercrombie guy is, he'll produce the documentation at such as time as to have the maximum negative political effect for Republicans.
Let's just hope that none of the GOP front-runners are stupid enough to even mention this crap. They should instead inoculate themselves loudly and often by calling birthers exactly what they are; Kooks. Sorry, you and I agree on much but not this.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 29, 2010 22:34:13 GMT -8
It's only the far out wing nuts who continue along these lines regarding Obama's birth. I don't think a single Republican in any responsible position, whether in government or in the GOP party structure has ever lent support to this crazy idea.
I can't prove it, nor do I even suspect it, but if it were substantiated tomorrow that the whole birther movement was an Obama machine plot from the very first I wouldn't bat an eyelid. Only Obama benefits from the continuation of this nonsense. The GOP does not benefit, nor does it benefit the country to continue the suspicion that the POTUS is illegitimate because of foreign birth.
Respecting the idea that Liberals going off half-cocked, I offer as exhibit A the current occupant of the Oval Office. Clearly, this man badly - - - I would say very, very badly - - - underestimated the difficulty of the office he sought. You want an example? Okay, how about this one. A couple of days after taking office, Obama very ostentatiously announced that the Gitmo prison would be closed. Well, how has that worked out?
Another example? Iran. Every overture he has made to Iran (N. Korea as well) has been thrown back in his face. I have absolutely no doubt that Obama was shocked when his marvelous personality and intellect could not work the miracles that he thought he was capable of. Reality has probably set in on a number of issues, but in the process he has largely lost two crucial years spinning his wheels.
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Post by aztec70 on Dec 29, 2010 23:06:03 GMT -8
It's only the far out wing nuts who continue along these lines regarding Obama's birth. I don't think a single Republican in any responsible position, whether in government or in the GOP party structure has ever lent support to this crazy idea. I can't prove it, nor do I even suspect it, but if it were substantiated tomorrow that the whole birther movement was an Obama machine plot from the very first I wouldn't bat an eyelid. Only Obama benefits from the continuation of this nonsense. The GOP does not benefit, nor does it benefit the country to continue the suspicion that the POTUS is illegitimate because of foreign birth. Respecting the idea that Liberals going off half-cocked, I offer as exhibit A the current occupant of the Oval Office. Clearly, this man badly - - - I would say very, very badly - - - underestimated the difficulty of the office he sought. You want an example? Okay, how about this one. A couple of days after taking office, Obama very ostentatiously announced that the Gitmo prison would be closed. Well, how has that worked out? Another example? Iran. Every overture he has made to Iran (N. Korea as well) has been thrown back in his face. I have absolutely no doubt that Obama was shocked when his marvelous personality and intellect could not work the miracles that he thought he was capable of. Reality has probably set in on a number of issues, but in the process he has largely lost two crucial years spinning his wheels. AzWm He had a great Dec. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 29, 2010 23:52:55 GMT -8
It's only the far out wing nuts who continue along these lines regarding Obama's birth. I don't think a single Republican in any responsible position, whether in government or in the GOP party structure has ever lent support to this crazy idea. I can't prove it, nor do I even suspect it, but if it were substantiated tomorrow that the whole birther movement was an Obama machine plot from the very first I wouldn't bat an eyelid. Only Obama benefits from the continuation of this nonsense. The GOP does not benefit, nor does it benefit the country to continue the suspicion that the POTUS is illegitimate because of foreign birth. Respecting the idea that Liberals going off half-cocked, I offer as exhibit A the current occupant of the Oval Office. Clearly, this man badly - - - I would say very, very badly - - - underestimated the difficulty of the office he sought. You want an example? Okay, how about this one. A couple of days after taking office, Obama very ostentatiously announced that the Gitmo prison would be closed. Well, how has that worked out? Another example? Iran. Every overture he has made to Iran (N. Korea as well) has been thrown back in his face. I have absolutely no doubt that Obama was shocked when his marvelous personality and intellect could not work the miracles that he thought he was capable of. Reality has probably set in on a number of issues, but in the process he has largely lost two crucial years spinning his wheels. AzWm He had a great Dec. Is that akin to what Steinbrenner said about Dave Winfield as compared to what had been said about Reggie Jackson? Jackson was called "Mr. October." Remember what the Stein said about Dave? "Winfield is Mr. May!" ;D AzWm |
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Post by uwaztec on Dec 30, 2010 7:11:15 GMT -8
It's only the far out wing nuts who continue along these lines regarding Obama's birth. I don't think a single Republican in any responsible position, whether in government or in the GOP party structure has ever lent support to this crazy idea. I can't prove it, nor do I even suspect it, but if it were substantiated tomorrow that the whole birther movement was an Obama machine plot from the very first I wouldn't bat an eyelid. Only Obama benefits from the continuation of this nonsense. The GOP does not benefit, nor does it benefit the country to continue the suspicion that the POTUS is illegitimate because of foreign birth. AzWm  |
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Post by Montezuma on Dec 30, 2010 7:14:29 GMT -8
I don't trust this Obama guy either way...regardless of where he was born he will go down as the worst president ever....worst than the peanut farmer.
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Post by uwaztec on Dec 30, 2010 13:24:31 GMT -8
It's only the far out wing nuts who continue along these lines regarding Obama's birth. I don't think a single Republican in any responsible position, whether in government or in the GOP party structure has ever lent support to this crazy idea. I can't prove it, nor do I even suspect it, but if it were substantiated tomorrow that the whole birther movement was an Obama machine plot from the very first I wouldn't bat an eyelid. Only Obama benefits from the continuation of this nonsense. The GOP does not benefit, nor does it benefit the country to continue the suspicion that the POTUS is illegitimate because of foreign birth. AzWm |
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Post by aztecwin on Dec 30, 2010 14:42:27 GMT -8
The best part of that utube clip was where Joe says that there is not a single person in the White House who has ever created a job. He thinks people are wasting time talking about Obama's birth in Kenya when we should be holding his feet to the fire about putting permanent policy in place that will allow the private sector to create jobs. That does not mean that we can't have some fun with the new idiot Governor of Hawaii over proving Obama's birth. |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Dec 31, 2010 15:37:10 GMT -8
Ya' know win, the reason why Benito Jr. drags this out is because he knows he has the documentation to prove he was born in the US and when his political adversaries continue to harp on this crap it makes them look like rabid, mouth breathing nut cases. Prediction: whoever this Abercrombie guy is, he'll produce the documentation at such as time as to have the maximum negative political effect for Republicans. Let's just hope that none of the GOP front-runners are stupid enough to even mention this crap. They should instead inoculate themselves loudly and often by calling birthers exactly what they are; Kooks. Sorry, you and I agree on much but not this. Which, despite all our disagreements over the years, is one reason I actually don't have all that many problems with you. You're a pragmatist and that I can respect. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Dec 31, 2010 15:44:14 GMT -8
I don't trust this Obama guy either way...regardless of where he was born he will go down as the worst president ever....worst than the peanut farmer. Oh? Please explain why, with well-documented arguments comparing him to Franklyn Pierce, James Buchanan, U.S. Grant and Warren G. Harding (all of whom, BTW, I consider to be worse Presidents than Dubbya). =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Dec 31, 2010 15:52:17 GMT -8
The best part of that utube clip was where Joe says that there is not a single person in the White House who has ever created a job. That does not mean that we can't have some fun with the new idiot Governor of Hawaii over proving Obama's birth. Of course, given that he was elected to Congress when he was around the age of 29, Joe hasn't exactly excelled in creating jobs either. But none of that matters. You like to talk about cycles when it comes to climate but the same is true about jobs - they lag behind an improving economy because down times terrify those who still have jobs and pick up the slack until such time as they become overloaded and customer service becomes so constrained that they have to start hiring. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Dec 31, 2010 15:54:03 GMT -8
Oh please God, open the eyes of your faithful worshipers so that they can understand that you command them to vote for Palin.
=Bob
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Post by aztecwin on Dec 31, 2010 15:56:12 GMT -8
The best part of that utube clip was where Joe says that there is not a single person in the White House who has ever created a job. That does not mean that we can't have some fun with the new idiot Governor of Hawaii over proving Obama's birth. Of course, given that he was elected to Congress when he was around the age of 29, Joe hasn't exactly excelled in creating jobs either. But none of that matters. You like to talk about cycles when it comes to climate but the same is true about jobs - they lag behind an improving economy because down times terrify those who still have jobs and pick up the slack until such time as they become overloaded and customer service becomes so constrained that they have to start hiring. =Bob What part of that offering has anything to do with creating jobs by anyone close to the current President and White House Presidential Staff? |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Dec 31, 2010 16:02:12 GMT -8
Is that akin to what Steinbrenner said about Dave Winfield as compared to what had been said about Reggie Jackson? Jackson was called "Mr. October." Remember what the Stein said about Dave? "Winfield is Mr. May!" ;D AzWm Not in the least. This lame duck Congress accomplished more than any lame duck Congress in a very long time and all it took was Obama moving a bit toward the center, which is, I think, where he's the most comfortable anyway. I'll take an extension of the tax cut for the rich in exchange for START, an end to DADT and and extension of unemployment benefits. All this lame duck session showed for the right is they put concerns for the rich above anything and everything that matters to the middle class. =Bob |
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Post by davdesid on Dec 31, 2010 17:44:33 GMT -8
Amazing how the =Perfesser manages to hi-jack a thread about Abercrombie and turn it into one about his secret love.... no doubt "jacking" himself all the while. But back to the subject. I don't know where Obama was born, but I do know he WAS born. And I have photographic evidence to prove it.  |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Dec 31, 2010 18:39:50 GMT -8
Of course, given that he was elected to Congress when he was around the age of 29, Joe hasn't exactly excelled in creating jobs either. But none of that matters. You like to talk about cycles when it comes to climate but the same is true about jobs - they lag behind an improving economy because down times terrify those who still have jobs and pick up the slack until such time as they become overloaded and customer service becomes so constrained that they have to start hiring. =Bob What part of that offering has anything to do with creating jobs by anyone close to the current President and White House Presidential Staff? What part of not bothering with your pathetic trolls do yuou not understand? Jobs are really quite simple to figure out, Pooh. If you had ever had to worry about being on the government dole you might understand that. As it stands, you don't because you have always assumed that spending your 20 floating on boats somehow entitles you to a lifetime of getting bucks at our expense while you consistently bitch about others receiving far less benefits than you've lived off for the past 40 years. You have this sense of entitlement that you don't believe others should have simply because you believe your job was somehow more difficult while having nothing to compare it to. But please feel free to offer any sort of argument as to why you got retirement at age 38 while cops and fire-fighters have to work until age 50 before they can retire. Ain't like you ever did anything more than float on a boat. Ain't like you ever engaged in combat. I don't blame you for taking advantage of the system, but I do blame you for attempting to be holier than thou. =Bob |
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