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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2010 11:01:58 GMT -8
SS Orlando Hudson
2B Jason Bartlett
1B Brad Hawpe
RF Ryan Ludwick
LF Will Venable
3B Chase Headley
C Nick Hundley
CF Cameron Mayben
Only 3 players from last years opening day lineup. Hundley, Headley and Venable.
We'll see what happens.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 26, 2010 11:32:12 GMT -8
Bartlett/Hudson/Hawpe/Ludwick/Headley/Venable/Maybin/Hundley is the lineup I think you're likely to see 1-8.
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Post by joshjones1 on Dec 26, 2010 19:09:15 GMT -8
SS Orlando Hudson 2B Jason Bartlett 1B Brad Hawpe RF Ryan Ludwick LF Will Venable 3B Chase Headley C Nick Hundley CF Cameron Mayben Only 3 players from last years opening day lineup. Hundley, Headley and Venable. We'll see what happens. Are you sure Hudson is playing SS? I thought he was 2B (his natural position) and Bartlett at SS. |
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Post by joshjones1 on Dec 26, 2010 19:10:36 GMT -8
Unless Hawpe regains his 2009 All Star form (in which he still didn't hit 30 homers), and some of these guys have real surprising seasons at the plate.........the Pads offense is going to come in around dead last in runs scored and OPS.
That's a pretty piss poor lineup.
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Post by traholder on Dec 26, 2010 19:24:28 GMT -8
Unless Hawpe regains his 2009 All Star form (in which he still didn't hit 30 homers), and some of these guys have real surprising seasons at the plate.........the Pads offense is going to come in around dead last in runs scored and OPS. That's a pretty piss poor lineup. The lineup on paper is much better than last years. If Hawpe regainst his 06-09 form as well as Ludwick and Maybin steps up like I think the lineup will be middle of the pack |
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Post by Blanco on Dec 26, 2010 19:48:44 GMT -8
I'm curious to see how Buddy fills in the batting order. I see a bunch of guys that can hit 6-8 in this lineup. It looks like we'll have a 3 and cleanup hitter by default.
I'm not sold on Hawpe being the everyday 1st baseman.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 26, 2010 20:15:06 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure the Padres will sign a right handed first baseman to platoon with Hawpe, who struggles against southpaws. The hope is that Kyle Blanks can return by midseason with renewed confidence and be the first baseman/power hitter he was projected to be.
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Post by traholder on Dec 26, 2010 20:53:50 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure the Padres will sign a right handed first baseman to platoon with Hawpe, who struggles against southpaws. The hope is that Kyle Blanks can return by midseason with renewed confidence and be the first baseman/power hitter he was projected to be. he is decent enough against lefties, maybe we get Cantu |
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Post by joshjones1 on Dec 26, 2010 20:59:08 GMT -8
Unless Hawpe regains his 2009 All Star form (in which he still didn't hit 30 homers), and some of these guys have real surprising seasons at the plate.........the Pads offense is going to come in around dead last in runs scored and OPS. That's a pretty piss poor lineup. The lineup on paper is much better than last years. If Hawpe regainst his 06-09 form as well as Ludwick and Maybin steps up like I think the lineup will be middle of the pack I don't know how you can say that. At least last year we had a proven cleanup hitter who could hit a .900 OPS and drive in 100 a season. Eckstein also hit well up top, which surprised me. With Maybin, it's not just asking "When will he become a star", we first have to find out, "Can he hit major league pitching?"......In about 550 major league at bats so far, his career OPS is .692 and he has struck out four times as much as he has walked. He has hit .246 in those at bats. Don't get me wrong. I like his potential, and he comes with a pedigree as a highly touted prospect. Still, he is going to be 24 in April and he is no longer a fresh faced baby. It's time to produce. I find it a bit odd that Florida, with a rep for developing young talent, let him go for so little in return. He doesn't hit for power much, so to be productive, we need him to hit for average, steal bags, score runs, and play strong defense. Hawpe.....well, I was surprised Colorado let him go last season. He was struggling with power and contact, but still drawing walks and getting on base pretty well (.343 OBP compared to .255 average) despite that. This is a guy that had a great 2008 and 2009 for the Rockies. What I like is, in 180 at bats in Petco, the guy has hit .281 with 5 homers and an .822 OPS. Hawpe's stats: sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7322/splits;_ylt=AuUazbzhPnmG1OEgFdQZT7WFCLcF?year=career&type=BattingThere is some potential in that lineup, but I think we need big seasons from Hawpe and Ludwick. |
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Post by joshjones1 on Dec 26, 2010 21:00:44 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure the Padres will sign a right handed first baseman to platoon with Hawpe, who struggles against southpaws. The hope is that Kyle Blanks can return by midseason with renewed confidence and be the first baseman/power hitter he was projected to be. I hope so, but he won't even come off the DL (from what I read) until July or so, and then may take some time to adjust to game speed. He looked lost at the plate last season, but also showed his trademark power smashing some bombs. I am confident he's going to turn out pretty good. Just maybe in 2012. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 26, 2010 22:24:45 GMT -8
He can swing a bat right now, is what I've heard. He just can't throw the ball. Regarding Hawpe, Tra, you have no idea what you're talking about. Hawpe has hit lefties at a career .245 clip. That's not what I'd call "good enough."
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Post by traholder on Dec 26, 2010 23:34:45 GMT -8
Eckstein was hot to start the year then really cooled off a 320 OBP with no pop or speed.
Obviously Everth, Tony, and Blanks struggled big time
Top to bottom the lineup is clearly better the question is how does Ludwick respond, and we will see Just how much we will miss Adrian. The biggest problem last year was the top of the order guys never get on base
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Post by traholder on Dec 26, 2010 23:36:17 GMT -8
I really do think with Rizzo the future for Blanks is trade bait or in the Outfield, Rizzo will be a very good one and the starting first baseman for all of 2012 barring injury
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Post by joshjones1 on Dec 27, 2010 9:22:36 GMT -8
I really do think with Rizzo the future for Blanks is trade bait or in the Outfield, Rizzo will be a very good one and the starting first baseman for all of 2012 barring injury That's pretty much already been said. Rizzo will most likely be a September call-up if he hits well in AA/AAA, and is on target to be the regular 1B in 2012. Blanks will be in left field. He's no longer in the picture at 1B. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2010 9:39:00 GMT -8
The lineup on paper is much better than last years. If Hawpe regainst his 06-09 form as well as Ludwick and Maybin steps up like I think the lineup will be middle of the pack I don't know how you can say that. At least last year we had a proven cleanup hitter who could hit a .900 OPS and drive in 100 a season. Eckstein also hit well up top, which surprised me. With Maybin, it's not just asking "When will he become a star", we first have to find out, "Can he hit major league pitching?"......In about 550 major league at bats so far, his career OPS is .692 and he has struck out four times as much as he has walked. He has hit .246 in those at bats. Don't get me wrong. I like his potential, and he comes with a pedigree as a highly touted prospect. Still, he is going to be 24 in April and he is no longer a fresh faced baby. It's time to produce. I find it a bit odd that Florida, with a rep for developing young talent, let him go for so little in return. He doesn't hit for power much, so to be productive, we need him to hit for average, steal bags, score runs, and play strong defense. Hawpe.....well, I was surprised Colorado let him go last season. He was struggling with power and contact, but still drawing walks and getting on base pretty well (.343 OBP compared to .255 average) despite that. This is a guy that had a great 2008 and 2009 for the Rockies. What I like is, in 180 at bats in Petco, the guy has hit .281 with 5 homers and an .822 OPS. Hawpe's stats: sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7322/splits;_ylt=AuUazbzhPnmG1OEgFdQZT7WFCLcF?year=career&type=BattingThere is some potential in that lineup, but I think we need big seasons from Hawpe and Ludwick. 23 is still pretty freaking young Josh. At this point in Adrian Gonzalez's career, he had 7 homeruns with 43 strikeouts and 12 walks. I like Mayben's upside. And his defense is great. Plus he'll be hitting 7th or 8th. |
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Post by joshjones1 on Dec 27, 2010 9:41:49 GMT -8
I don't know how you can say that. At least last year we had a proven cleanup hitter who could hit a .900 OPS and drive in 100 a season. Eckstein also hit well up top, which surprised me. With Maybin, it's not just asking "When will he become a star", we first have to find out, "Can he hit major league pitching?"......In about 550 major league at bats so far, his career OPS is .692 and he has struck out four times as much as he has walked. He has hit .246 in those at bats. Don't get me wrong. I like his potential, and he comes with a pedigree as a highly touted prospect. Still, he is going to be 24 in April and he is no longer a fresh faced baby. It's time to produce. I find it a bit odd that Florida, with a rep for developing young talent, let him go for so little in return. He doesn't hit for power much, so to be productive, we need him to hit for average, steal bags, score runs, and play strong defense. Hawpe.....well, I was surprised Colorado let him go last season. He was struggling with power and contact, but still drawing walks and getting on base pretty well (.343 OBP compared to .255 average) despite that. This is a guy that had a great 2008 and 2009 for the Rockies. What I like is, in 180 at bats in Petco, the guy has hit .281 with 5 homers and an .822 OPS. Hawpe's stats: sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7322/splits;_ylt=AuUazbzhPnmG1OEgFdQZT7WFCLcF?year=career&type=BattingThere is some potential in that lineup, but I think we need big seasons from Hawpe and Ludwick. 23 is still pretty freaking young Josh. At this point in Adrian Gonzalez's career, he had 7 homeruns with 43 strikeouts and 12 walks. I like Mayben's upside. And his defense is great. Plus he'll be hitting 7th or 8th. I agree 100%. My point was....he's no longer just a Baseball America prospect, he's at an age where expectations can increase a tad. He also has 550 MLB at bats under him. I wasn't saying I expect him to be an All-Star this year.  |
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Post by azson on Dec 27, 2010 9:44:06 GMT -8
SS Orlando Hudson 2B Jason Bartlett 1B Brad Hawpe RF Ryan Ludwick LF Will Venable 3B Chase Headley C Nick Hundley CF Cameron Mayben Only 3 players from last years opening day lineup. Hundley, Headley and Venable. We'll see what happens. If you're an opposing starting pitcher looking at that lineup are you scared? |
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Post by Blanco on Dec 27, 2010 10:18:45 GMT -8
No, but if I were taking the mound for the Pads I would be.
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Post by joshjones1 on Dec 27, 2010 10:49:50 GMT -8
SS Orlando Hudson 2B Jason Bartlett 1B Brad Hawpe RF Ryan Ludwick LF Will Venable 3B Chase Headley C Nick Hundley CF Cameron Mayben Only 3 players from last years opening day lineup. Hundley, Headley and Venable. We'll see what happens. If you're an opposing starting pitcher looking at that lineup are you scared? Punch and judy, and not a single guy you would pitch around. I am betting Pads finish bottom 3 in runs scored.....BIll you, wanna take it? Loser donates $100 to AAF. |
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Post by traholder on Dec 27, 2010 11:30:12 GMT -8
I think the lineup will finish in the middle of pack in runs scored on the road, you never know with Petco
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