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Post by aztecwin on May 30, 2010 12:41:50 GMT -8
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Post by AztecWilliam on May 30, 2010 17:12:54 GMT -8
Obama has not really been candid about what people and ideas influenced him in his early years. At any rate I'm not seeing much discussion of that in the "mainstream" media. The fact is that Obama's background (where he grew up, who raised him, etc.) is unusual when compared with that of all recent presidents.
Such a different background by no means disqualifies him from holding office. On the other hand, it made him something of a mystery to the voters in 2008. Millions of voters apparently read into Obama whatever it was that they were looking for. The past 18 months have demonstrated why voters really ought to do some homework on a person before voting for him or her to be the most powerful single person in the world.
AzWm
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Post by retiredaztec on May 30, 2010 20:48:55 GMT -8
Obama has not really been candid about what people and ideas influenced him in his early years. At any rate I'm not seeing much discussion of that in the "mainstream" media. The fact is that Obama's background (where he grew up, who raised him, etc.) is unusual when compared with that of all recent presidents. Such a different background by no means disqualifies him from holding office. On the other hand, it made him something of a mystery to the voters in 2008. Millions of voters apparently read into Obama whatever it was that they were looking for. The past 18 months have demonstrated why voters really ought to do some homework on a person before voting for him or her to be the most powerful single person in the world. AzWm Just like the people did with the previous administration, right? |
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Post by AztecWilliam on May 30, 2010 21:50:20 GMT -8
Obama has not really been candid about what people and ideas influenced him in his early years. At any rate I'm not seeing much discussion of that in the "mainstream" media. The fact is that Obama's background (where he grew up, who raised him, etc.) is unusual when compared with that of all recent presidents. Such a different background by no means disqualifies him from holding office. On the other hand, it made him something of a mystery to the voters in 2008. Millions of voters apparently read into Obama whatever it was that they were looking for. The past 18 months have demonstrated why voters really ought to do some homework on a person before voting for him or her to be the most powerful single person in the world. AzWm Just like the people did with the previous administration, right? Regardless of how one feels about Gore and Bush, I think it's safe to say that both men were pretty well known in 2000. They had been in public service for a long time, especially Gore. Obama, on the other hand, had a very skimpy record of public service. He basically came out of nowhere to win a Senate seat in 2006 and two years later won the nomination in a huge upset. 2008 was a strange year, a sort of "perfect storm" that made a Democratic win almost inevitable regardless of how much or how little the electorate knew about Barack Obama. In a year and a half, Obama has managed to lose the support of the vast majority of independents and the few Republicans who voted for him. He's even lost some support among Democrats (only African Americans remain solid Obama supporters). That's all history. Right now we have a President who is well down in the polls less than half way through his term. If he is not able to reach out to independents and Republicans in a meaningful way, he will continue to lack the support that a chief executive needs to be an effective leader. He may spend the last two years of his term, as did Truman and Bush, a much weakened leader. That can't be good for the country. AzWm |
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 1, 2010 12:40:28 GMT -8
Just like the people did with the previous administration, right? Regardless of how one feels about Gore and Bush, I think it's safe to say that both men were pretty well known in 2000. They had been in public service for a long time, especially Gore. Obama, on the other hand, had a very skimpy record of public service. He basically came out of nowhere to win a Senate seat in 2006 and two years later won the nomination in a huge upset. 2008 was a strange year, a sort of "perfect storm" that made a Democratic win almost inevitable regardless of how much or how little the electorate knew about Barack Obama. In a year and a half, Obama has managed to lose the support of the vast majority of independents and the few Republicans who voted for him. He's even lost some support among Democrats (only African Americans remain solid Obama supporters). That's all history. Right now we have a President who is well down in the polls less than half way through his term. If he is not able to reach out to independents and Republicans in a meaningful way, he will continue to lack the support that a chief executive needs to be an effective leader. He may spend the last two years of his term, as did Truman and Bush, a much weakened leader. That can't be good for the country. AzWm Our media completely failed us in covering the 2008 election. |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Jun 1, 2010 15:48:03 GMT -8
Assuming that it is true, that he used some 'influence' to get into Harvard, what is wrong with that? It's the American way. How do you think Bush got into Yale and then into Harvard? Was it his high school academic record? Hell no. It was 'influence'. The only difference is that Bush is white and rich whereas Obama was poor and black.
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 1, 2010 17:03:21 GMT -8
Assuming that it is true, that he used some 'influence' to get into Harvard, what is wrong with that? It's the American way. How do you think Bush got into Yale and then into Harvard? Was it his high school academic record? Hell no. It was 'influence'. The only difference is that Bush is white and rich whereas Obama was poor and black. Are you trying to be funny? Surely you don't believe anything is even remotely racial about this? It is about an unqualified person gaining entrance with no credentials. Bush and Algore got in by influence, but both had credentials, poor as they were, while Obama apparantly had none. |
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Post by sdtosf on Jun 1, 2010 19:32:15 GMT -8
He got all A's!
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