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Post by aztecwin on Dec 22, 2010 8:53:43 GMT -8
QUOTE OF THE CENTURY Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do. "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama,who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president
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Post by aztec70 on Dec 23, 2010 8:00:14 GMT -8
QUOTE OF THE CENTURY Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do. "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama,who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president ROFL
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Dec 23, 2010 9:02:04 GMT -8
QUOTE OF THE CENTURY Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do. "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama,who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president Another comment from a person who doesn't understand the concept of Democracy and the U.S. Constitution.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Dec 25, 2010 19:41:47 GMT -8
Guess Obama pissed off the Czech Republic in some manner or another. Unfortunately, what Pooh doesn't understand is this is a total dis on the American public.
=Bob
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Post by Yoda on Dec 25, 2010 20:12:38 GMT -8
Actually, what Pooh (Pooh? Really?) understands is that this is a total dis on that portion of the American public that didn't vote as he did. He's all in favor of dissing those who hold different political views. If the quote had been about a conservative political figure, THEN it would have been "a total dis on the American public" -- and it would not any longer have been the "Quote of the Century".
Quotes that build a consensus or that seek to find solutions are never "quotes of the century" -- that honor only is conferred upon quotes that are divisive -- and then only if they trash the speakers political opponents. Pooh and some of the others on the extreme right are not about building a consensus and they are not about finding solutions; they are only about dividing us by tearing down those that they do not agree with.
Yoda out...
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Post by aztec70 on Dec 25, 2010 22:20:29 GMT -8
Guess Obama pissed off the Czech Republic in some manner or another. Unfortunately, what Pooh doesn't understand is this is a total dis on the American public. =Bob Not the Czech Republic, but some Czech right wing nut case. No wonder win was all over it.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 25, 2010 23:02:15 GMT -8
Win, you can tell by some of the comments that the evaluation of the American electorate you posted has hit a sore spot. That piece is right on target. If not the quote of the Century, it surely is the quote of the last two years!
I would like to know the source.
AzWm
PS: I can name all sorts of people who might well have been better presidents than George W. Bush turned out to be. However, "all sorts of people" were not on the ballot. It was, practically speaking, a choice between Bush and Al Gore.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 25, 2010 23:11:09 GMT -8
Oh, yes, one more thing. Just what in the quote posted here is false? I would think that anyone who disagrees with the quote would put up a rousing defense of BHO in specific terms.
Such as, perhaps: "Obama has decreased the U.S. budget deficit." Or maybe: "Under Obama, we have seen an economic recovery equal to or greater than those that followed the last few recessions." Or even: "Obama has succeeded in getting Iran to give up its nuclear weapons program and to stop killing American soldiers via support for terrorist groups."
You know, pointing to all the good things Obama has done.
AzWm
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Dec 26, 2010 0:24:23 GMT -8
Pooh and some of the others on the extreme right are not about building a consensus and they are not about finding solutions... Come on - I have heard TONS of proposed solutions for just about every major issue from those on the right. Being in the minority party, those on the right, however, haven't been able to get anything passed in the legislature since those on the other side just want to tear down Republicans/Conservatives (calling them the, "Party of no," etc) and don't want to give them a political victory for solving problems. It isn't just the Republicans and those on the right who have been trying to avoid giving the people on the other side a, "Victory," by allowing major legislation to pass that will solve said problems. Democrats have been just as guilty if not moreso.
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Post by Yoda on Dec 26, 2010 6:00:13 GMT -8
Come on - I have heard TONS of proposed solutions for just about every major issue from those on the right. Being in the minority party, those on the right, however, haven't been able to get anything passed in the legislature since those on the other side just want to tear down Republicans/Conservatives (calling them the, "Party of no," etc) and don't want to give them a political victory for solving problems. It isn't just the Republicans and those on the right who have been trying to avoid giving the people on the other side a, "Victory," by allowing major legislation to pass that will solve said problems. Democrats have been just as guilty if not moreso. Erik, there is a difference between a proposed solution and a politically viable proposed solution. Proposing solutions that have no chance of passage is not legislating; it's grandstanding. Proposing solutions that have no chance of passage isn't about building a consensus; it's about posturing for political gain. And proposing solutions that have no chance of passage isn't about finding solutions; it's about dividing us and making it more difficult to find solutions. I wasn’t so much picking on the right – they just happen to be the ones out of power right now – and as such, they are the current “Party of No”. Well, that and I was responding to Aztecwin, who I sense is pretty far right. If this past month has shown anything it is that when the two sides stop “proposing solutions” – solutions with no chance of passage -- and work together to find workable and politically viable solutions, they can get a lot done. Yoda out…
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Post by Yoda on Dec 26, 2010 6:22:00 GMT -8
Win, you can tell by some of the comments that the evaluation of the American electorate you posted has hit a sore spot. That piece is right on target. If not the quote of the Century, it surely is the quote of the last two years! I would like to know the source. AzWm The piece is right on target if you assume, as some of you do, that Obama is, in fact, the President that the right wing has tried to define him to be. But if you do not share that bias, then the comment is mostly offensive -- to both the President and to the American public. I voted for McCain but I have been impressed with what Obama has done. I believe that he (and Bush) saved us from a depression with TARP -- and I give Bush great credit for bringing Obama's people into the decision making process before the change in Administrations. His people understood that if they went off in one direction, only to have Obama's people come in and reverse course and go off in a different direction three months later, there could be dire consequences for the economy. And I believe that the economy is turning around -- faster than most believed it would. The CBO estimates in the other thread make that rather apparent. The real question is, what's next? If the economy recovers and spending doesn't go down, then Obama could end up being a disaster as a President. If, on the other hand, he brings spending down again and, be still my heart, addresses the unfunded federal liabilities and entitlements generally, then I think he could be the greatest president in my lifetime and one of the greatest ever. Yoda out...
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Post by aztecwin on Dec 26, 2010 7:45:44 GMT -8
William, I do not know the exact source other than what is stated in the "quote". I am more than just a little amused at how people will jump to the defense of those who voted for Obama. I am even more amused at those who take that quote as an attack on Obama rather than those those who voted for him. You can interpret the "quote" any way you want, but I am most amused and enlightened by those who seem to identify themselves as the target and feel compelled to jump to the defense of either Obama or the folks, as described, who put Obama in office.
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