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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 19, 2010 12:08:59 GMT -8
A lot has been said and written concerning the economic and military rise of China . This piece takes a look at the whole Chinese strategy to become the world's leading power. This is not an encouraging read, despite the slight optimistic twist (and in my view it is slight) at the end. www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/chinese-chess_523513.htmlAzWm
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Post by aztec70 on Dec 19, 2010 14:20:35 GMT -8
I could not get page two to load. Therefore I will not comment on the article in specifics. I will make general comment on the China/West issue. They are eating our lunch, and conservatives seem happy about it.
Notice how the writer points out that we are advocates of free trade and how the Chinese take advantage of that? This because most of the business world is conservative. Free trade is their mantra. It is the conservatives that will be happy to sell the rope that the Chinese will use to hang our children and grandchildren. It is the conservatives that are happy to offshore the jobs that made our country great.
You don't see liberals or unions saying how great it is that our industrial base is emasculated. We are fighting for our lives here, People. You conservatives need to wake up.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 19, 2010 14:52:55 GMT -8
Give it another try. I just did so and was able to view the second page. Worth looking into.
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Post by aztec70 on Dec 19, 2010 15:15:29 GMT -8
Page two loads now. It seems the point is that a state controlled economy is better than a market based economy. It seems to be working out well for the Chinese. Democracy, freedom, elections, civil rights all that Western stuff is not important to the Chinese government. Power is.
As a libertarian, William, how does the Chinese model fit into your universe?
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Post by uwaztec on Dec 19, 2010 16:25:01 GMT -8
China is our real enemy (rather than right and left wingers). They will kill the last wild tiger and rhino to grind its bones for "power", take the fins off sharks and throw the live animal back into the water to bleed to death and sink into the abyss. Segments of Chinese society routinely skin and cook mammals alive. They are willing to lose entire cities with millions of population in a major conflict without even batting an eye. The "Walmart model" plays tight into their hands. Why do "conservatives" defend the Walmart model so much??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2010 16:45:40 GMT -8
my opinion, not that it's worth the band spaced used here, is that the Chinese government makes as many wrong decisions as any form of government because, like all who govern, their power is all they are ultimately interested in....
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Dec 19, 2010 17:06:16 GMT -8
my opinion, not that's worth the band spaced used here, is that the Chinese government makes as many wrong decisions as any form of government because, like all who govern, their power is all they are ultimately interested in.... Absolute statements are usually wrong in the absolute.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2010 17:09:48 GMT -8
my opinion, not that it's worth the band spaced used here, is that the Chinese government makes as many wrong decisions as any form of government because, like all who govern, their power is all they are ultimately interested in.... Absolute statements are usually wrong in the absolute. So my opinion is worth the band space used?
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Post by davdesid on Dec 19, 2010 17:13:01 GMT -8
>>Why do "conservatives" defend the Walmart model so much?? <<
Who "defends" the "Walmart model", and what exactly is that "model"?
I don't know. I never shop there, but it hasn't had anything to do with politics.
Maybe until now.
If the "model" is that they refuse to be suffocated by union thugs... well... I might have to reconsider my preferences.
Just to piss off the lefties.
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Post by aztecwin on Dec 20, 2010 9:51:15 GMT -8
>>Why do "conservatives" defend the Walmart model so much?? << Who "defends" the "Walmart model", and what exactly is that "model"? I don't know. I never shop there, but it hasn't had anything to do with politics. Maybe until now. If the "model" is that they refuse to be suffocated by union thugs... well... I might have to reconsider my preferences. Just to piss off the lefties. You have hit on one theme that comes to the top time after time. We allow union thugs to ruin the businesses that could compete with the Walmart model on the retail side and sink our competitiveness on the manufacturing side. Liberals have no common sense!
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Post by aztec70 on Dec 20, 2010 22:05:21 GMT -8
Page two loads now. It seems the point is that a state controlled economy is better than a market based economy. It seems to be working out well for the Chinese. Democracy, freedom, elections, civil rights all that Western stuff is not important to the Chinese government. Power is. As a libertarian, William, how does the Chinese model fit into your universe? William? Got an answer?
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