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Post by aztecdan8 on Nov 9, 2024 16:16:41 GMT -8
I've never seen so many Aztec fans so soured on an Aztec coach so quickly. Usually Aztec fans are more patient.
I happen to think he's not the guy and isn't going to be the guy here. I'd personally get rid of him and grab someone else better at season's end if money were no object.
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Post by gamer2101 on Nov 9, 2024 17:46:54 GMT -8
I feel like a lot of us are just tired of so many down years. I also think it takes more than a year to get what we want done. I believe our defense is good and the O line is a Miracle. Look at all of the things they’ve had to overcome all year. I am frustrated too because the expectation that was set doesn’t seem very close to the reality. I still believe we are gonna be good. Not this year, but we are a lot better than we were a year ago.
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Post by zbt69 on Nov 9, 2024 18:54:46 GMT -8
Many on this board would have been saying the same thing about Don Coryell. He had a bad first year getting his system in place. I'm not saying Coach Lewis is Saint Don but we will never know if we jump to conclusions to quickly. Look at the record of Coryell and Coach Fisher their first year. Enough said!
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Post by csaztec on Nov 9, 2024 19:02:44 GMT -8
Many on this board would have been saying the same thing about Don Coryell. He had a bad first year getting his system in place. I'm not saying Coach Lewis is Saint Don but we will never know if we jump to conclusions to quickly. Look at the record of Coryell and Coach Fisher their first year. Enough said! Coach Fisher won a National Championship, Lewis's claim to fame is getting fired from CU and taking Kent State to a bowl game..hardly comparable Fisher was a proven winner, coming from Michigan with an excellent staff (Dutcher). Lewis has...uhh...who again? You can see when someone has it and someone doesnt. Especially with the Transfer portal as you can see this year how teams can turnaround quickly. Look no further than the Mountain West. Im not buying the excuses. Same people saw this from Chuck Long but kept wanting to "give him another year"
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Post by fisherville on Nov 9, 2024 19:16:07 GMT -8
Anybody seriously thinking a HC should be fired in year 1 unless they win like 0 games is delusional. He deserves time
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Post by canthandlethetecs on Nov 9, 2024 19:32:06 GMT -8
Lmao at this board. Fire him after 9 games? I’m sure they are fine young men but this team is not good. At all. If you fire a coach after 9 games what other decent coach in his right mind is going to come here? This isn’t Ohio state, we can’t go buy a cfp team. Please get a grip. Thanks
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Post by LostAztec on Nov 9, 2024 19:47:14 GMT -8
Many on this board would have been saying the same thing about Don Coryell. He had a bad first year getting his system in place. I'm not saying Coach Lewis is Saint Don but we will never know if we jump to conclusions to quickly. Look at the record of Coryell and Coach Fisher their first year. Enough said! Coach Coryell went 7-2-1 his first season after taking over for Paul Governeli who went 1-6-1. Oh, and he was the pioneer of the Power I formation before becoming a passing game guru. We're not asking for the Don, we're asking for a competent Coach.
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Post by ramrodd23 on Nov 9, 2024 19:48:15 GMT -8
Many on this board would have been saying the same thing about Don Coryell. He had a bad first year getting his system in place. I'm not saying Coach Lewis is Saint Don but we will never know if we jump to conclusions to quickly. Look at the record of Coryell and Coach Fisher their first year. Enough said! This is a really bad example. Especially the Fisher part.
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Post by LostAztec on Nov 9, 2024 19:48:17 GMT -8
Lmao at this board. Fire him after 9 games? I’m sure they are fine young men but this team is not good. At all. If you fire a coach after 9 games what other decent coach in his right mind is going to come here? This isn’t Ohio state, we can’t go buy a cfp team. Please get a grip. Thanks If Oklahoma can fire Howard Schnellenberger after one season, we can to.
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Post by zurac315 on Nov 9, 2024 19:52:41 GMT -8
Many on this board would have been saying the same thing about Don Coryell. He had a bad first year getting his system in place. I'm not saying Coach Lewis is Saint Don but we will never know if we jump to conclusions to quickly. Look at the record of Coryell and Coach Fisher their first year. Enough said! In 1960 the Aztecs were 1-6-1 under Paul Governali. In Coryell's first year in 1961 the Aztecs went 7-2-1. That hardly seems like a bad first year. I was at those games in the Governali years and in that first Coryell year none of us could quite believe our eyes. Absolutely no one was criticizing him or suggesting that he should be gone.
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Post by canthandlethetecs on Nov 9, 2024 19:55:44 GMT -8
Lmao at this board. Fire him after 9 games? I’m sure they are fine young men but this team is not good. At all. If you fire a coach after 9 games what other decent coach in his right mind is going to come here? This isn’t Ohio state, we can’t go buy a cfp team. Please get a grip. Thanks If Oklahoma can fire Howard Schnellenberger after one season, we can to. Yes! Let’s fire him and everyone else until we go 9-3 their first year. This team is bad. It doesn’t matter who the coach is. 5-7 should be a resounding success
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Post by zbt69 on Nov 9, 2024 19:58:51 GMT -8
Many on this board would have been saying the same thing about Don Coryell. He had a bad first year getting his system in place. I'm not saying Coach Lewis is Saint Don but we will never know if we jump to conclusions to quickly. Look at the record of Coryell and Coach Fisher their first year. Enough said! Coach Fisher won a National Championship, Lewis's claim to fame is getting fired from CU and taking Kent State to a bowl game..hardly comparable Fisher was a proven winner, coming from Michigan with an excellent staff (Dutcher). Lewis has...uhh...who again? You can see when someone has it and someone doesnt. Especially with the Transfer portal as you can see this year how teams can turnaround quickly. Look no further than the Mountain West. Im not buying the excuses. Same people saw this from Chuck Long but kept wanting to "give him another year" You must be a billionaire with all that incredible insight into what will happen in the feature. Coach Fisher had been out of college coaching for sometime and was an assistant I believe for the Sacramento Kings. We knew he had had great success many years before at Michigan (may I remind you we were not Michigan) it was a leap of faith on our part and a great leap. Lewis took a program at Kent State that had not had a winning football team for many many years to a bowl game. Have you looked at the lack of success Kent State has had since he left.
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Post by frustratedfan on Nov 9, 2024 20:10:51 GMT -8
Coach Fisher won a National Championship, Lewis's claim to fame is getting fired from CU and taking Kent State to a bowl game..hardly comparable Fisher was a proven winner, coming from Michigan with an excellent staff (Dutcher). Lewis has...uhh...who again? You can see when someone has it and someone doesnt. Especially with the Transfer portal as you can see this year how teams can turnaround quickly. Look no further than the Mountain West. Im not buying the excuses. Same people saw this from Chuck Long but kept wanting to "give him another year" You must be a billionaire with all that incredible insight into what will happen in the feature. Coach Fisher had been out of college coaching for sometime and was an assistant I believe for the Sacramento Kings. We knew he had had great success many years before at Michigan (may I remind you we were not Michigan) it was a leap of faith on our part and a great leap. Lewis took a program at Kent State that had not had a winning football team for many many years to a bowl game. Have you looked at the lack of success Kent State has had since he left. Oh, give me a break. Coach Lewis was 24-31 in his 5 years as head coach of Kent State. Hardly what I would call "coaching success". Please see summary below: www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/sean-lewis-1.html
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Post by Den60 on Nov 9, 2024 20:25:53 GMT -8
You must be a billionaire with all that incredible insight into what will happen in the feature. Coach Fisher had been out of college coaching for sometime and was an assistant I believe for the Sacramento Kings. We knew he had had great success many years before at Michigan (may I remind you we were not Michigan) it was a leap of faith on our part and a great leap. Lewis took a program at Kent State that had not had a winning football team for many many years to a bowl game. Have you looked at the lack of success Kent State has had since he left. Oh, give me a break. Coach Lewis was 24-31 in his 5 years as head coach of Kent State. Hardly what I would call "coaching success". Please see summary below: www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/sean-lewis-1.htmlAnd he was forced to play 15 unwinnable games against P2 schools over his 5 year stint there, just so the program could get a "payday." I must correct myself, only 14 of the 15 games (all played on the road) were against teams currently in the B1G or SEC. ASU is "just" a P4 school.
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Post by rmksdsu30 on Nov 9, 2024 21:01:46 GMT -8
I would think you get two seasons, and I’ll stick with that but some of his choices are puzzling
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Post by Aztec Since 88 on Nov 9, 2024 21:32:03 GMT -8
This year we are 2-3 in one score games this season. We are also 1-3 in games decided by more than one score. We are playing a lot of young players due to injury and lack of depth. The frustrating part to watch this season is the lack of physicality in the lines and lack discipline this team has. It shows up in the number of penalties we have and the inability to score TDs in the red zone.
Lewis is getting at least 2 years before his seat gets hot unless Wicker leaves or is gone before then. These are the areas along with less predictable play calling are what I expect to see how much we improve in year 2. IF we don't improve these areas next year will be more of the same.
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Post by sdmotohead on Nov 9, 2024 21:45:58 GMT -8
I voted to FIRE ROCKY!
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Post by azteclou on Nov 9, 2024 21:55:51 GMT -8
This is the most ridiculous poll I’ve seen on this site. How can you judge a new coach on 9 games before he’s had a chance to recruit all his guys in? I was hoping for .500 this season but not expecting it. We’ve only seen bits and pieces of what this offense can be. Granted the New Mexico game was pathetic but to yell “fire the coach” now just doesn’t make any sense.
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Post by TPAztec on Nov 9, 2024 22:28:00 GMT -8
This is the most ridiculous poll I’ve seen on this site. How can you judge a new coach on 9 games before he’s had a chance to recruit all his guys in? I was hoping for .500 this season but not expecting it. We’ve only seen bits and pieces of what this offense can be. Granted the New Mexico game was pathetic but to yell “fire the coach” now just doesn’t make any sense. Seconded. It takes a good coach at least 2 years to get everything settled, and the right people in place. Lest we forget that a good amount of our players hit the portal? Give him at least a cycle more to see how he works the portal and go from there. He came in, inhereted a massively mismanaged program personnel wise, and has tried to build a house out of $#!+ and straw. Patience folks.
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Post by docmm on Nov 9, 2024 22:37:28 GMT -8
I think what you two are saying made sense in the old college system. You accumulated recruits over 2-3 years and had "your" team assembled. But these kids are going to follow the money if they play well and transfer if they don't because God forbid, they take responsibility for their poor play.
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