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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 8, 2024 23:38:15 GMT -8
So with the election over, and the balance of power shifting to the Republican side, what will the Democrats response be? How will they react and adjust? What will be their strategies going forward?
And how will the Republicans handle being in total control? Will they lord over everyone like they're the only ones elected, or will they work with the Democrats at all? Will they behave like authoritarians, or will they honor the democratic principles of the founders of this country?
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 9, 2024 16:35:01 GMT -8
Democrats:
Bernie Sanders and Andrew Yang style economic appeal. Universal Basic Income, free SNAP food money spending for everyone, or something similar (maybe an expanded Earned Income Tax Credit). Lower taxes for single people that are low to middle income - increase the minimum earnings threshold before people have to start paying taxes to a higher number. Preschool vouchers for families that offset costs. Financial, economic appeal.
Instead of ignoring illegal immigration, come up with an actual plan that makes it very easy for Anyone to come here on a visa - LEGALLY - with penalties for anyone who is here Illegally.
Oh, and stop ignoring your base, who are unhappy over Gaza, and not enough attention being paid to climate change.
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 9, 2024 17:25:34 GMT -8
All I know is that I'm going to do what I said a long time ago. I said, no matter who wins the election, I'm going to get behind them, and support them. I'll do this as long they deserve that support.
I love America, I'm an American, and I'm not going to be someone who HOPES that the new President screws up so they can say "I told you so." That would horrible. That would be equal to someone WANTING bad things to happen to America. I hope nobody has that mentality, but I know I'm wrong on that front.
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 10, 2024 18:48:15 GMT -8
Democrats policies were divisive, helping some, not all:
Student loan forgiveness (divide between college and non-college youth)
Abortion/trans/gender rights (divide between men and women in the younger generation)
These policies are okay, but they need to be secondary to policies that help everyone (like low and middle income tax breaks, esprcially for single adults, expanded earned income tax credit, free SNAP or universal basic income are all ideas)
"Lake said about 60% of voters don't believe Democrats have an economic plan, while those who do recognize a plan believe it favors college-goers. She pointed to Biden's efforts to forgive college student loan debt as an example. She said Americans have more clarity with Trump's brand of conservative populism: tax breaks, "America first" policies like higher tariffs, and less federal regulation."
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 10, 2024 19:02:55 GMT -8
All I know is that I'm going to do what I said a long time ago. I said, no matter who wins the election, I'm going to get behind them, and support them. I'll do this as long they deserve that support. I love America, I'm an American, and I'm not going to be someone who HOPES that the new President screws up so they can say "I told you so." That would horrible. That would be equal to someone WANTING bad things to happen to America. I hope nobody has that mentality, but I know I'm wrong on that front. Things are going to happen regardless of how much encouragement you want to give, though. |
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Nov 10, 2024 19:05:53 GMT -8
All I know is that I'm going to do what I said a long time ago. I said, no matter who wins the election, I'm going to get behind them, and support them. I'll do this as long they deserve that support. I'm not sure Trump deserves the support. He became unfit for the office in my eyes due to his behavior after the 2020 election. He's about to make his second trip to the White House as an invitee of the President after winning the election. In a huge breach of etiquette (in other words being an asshole) he refused to extend the same courtesy to Biden. The jerk wasn't at the inauguration either. Having said that the reality is that he will soon have the job. So as an American I hope he's successful while also abhorring the guy. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Nov 10, 2024 19:20:08 GMT -8
Matthew 6:24, you cannot serve 2 masters. Trump is no true Christian, he is a charlatan.
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 10, 2024 19:33:57 GMT -8
All I know is that I'm going to do what I said a long time ago. I said, no matter who wins the election, I'm going to get behind them, and support them. I'll do this as long they deserve that support. I'm not sure Trump deserves the support. He became unfit for the office in my eyes due to his behavior after the 2020 election. He's about to make his second trip to the White House as an invitee of the President after winning the election. In a huge breach of etiquette (in other words being an asshole) he refused to extend the same courtesy to Biden. The jerk wasn't at the inauguation either. Having said that the reality is that he will soon have the job. So as an American I hope he's successful while also abhorring the guy. Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 10, 2024 19:34:47 GMT -8
Matthew 6:24, you cannot serve 2 masters. Trump is no true Christian, he is a charlatan. Yes, I highly question it as well. Only Jesus knows how sincere he really is, or if he will change his ways. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 10, 2024 19:37:53 GMT -8
All I know is that I'm going to do what I said a long time ago. I said, no matter who wins the election, I'm going to get behind them, and support them. I'll do this as long they deserve that support. I love America, I'm an American, and I'm not going to be someone who HOPES that the new President screws up so they can say "I told you so." That would horrible. That would be equal to someone WANTING bad things to happen to America. I hope nobody has that mentality, but I know I'm wrong on that front. Things are going to happen regardless of how much encouragement you want to give, though. I'm deciding not to be a pessimist, just as I wouldn't be if Harris won. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 10, 2024 19:39:58 GMT -8
Matthew 6:24, you cannot serve 2 masters. Trump is no true Christian, he is a charlatan. That's right. You cannot serve two Masters. Christians believe that can be anything from money, to Sports. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Nov 10, 2024 19:42:34 GMT -8
Matthew 6:24, you cannot serve 2 masters. Trump is no true Christian, he is a charlatan. Yes, I highly question it as well. Only Jesus knows how sincere he really is, or if he will change his ways. Jesus was the sincere one and "the way" to heaven. Trump will change when he is struck by a bolt of lightning. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Nov 10, 2024 19:43:59 GMT -8
Matthew 6:24, you cannot serve 2 masters. Trump is no true Christian, he is a charlatan. That's right. You cannot serve two Masters. Christians believe that can be anything from money, to Sports. Especially in the SEC! |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 10, 2024 20:24:18 GMT -8
That's right. You cannot serve two Masters. Christians believe that can be anything from money, to Sports. Especially in the SEC! Ha!!! That's for sure. |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Nov 11, 2024 10:08:26 GMT -8
I don't think it's hard for the dems to come back.
-Get away from the woke racism/sexism/fillintheblank-ism victim mentality at every turn.
-Quit encouraging kids to be trans, since a male can't become a female no matter what anyway - even if they take pills and cut their genitals off (Wild I need to even say this)
-Have a strong border - like the way dems used to feel about the border before they had to be against it in order to go against Trump's stance since 2016
-Come up with an actually decent candidate
-Quit printing money (both sides) - reel in spending. We don't have a tax revenue problem, we have a SPENDING problem
There's plenty more I'd like to change but if they just do those things I bet they would've won this election no problem
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 11, 2024 10:41:19 GMT -8
And how will the Republicans handle being in total control? Will they lord over everyone like they're the only ones elected, or will they work with the Democrats at all? Will they behave like authoritarians, or will they honor the democratic principles of the founders of this country? I think the irony of all of this is that Democrat elitism and authoritarianism lost them this election. - Not running a real primary, by controlling the mainstream media, hiding Biden's decline and Democratic leaders jumping on Dean Phillips for starting a primary bid instead of giving him a real chance. - Kamala being 'too big' to go on Joe Rogan or other podcasts, not realizing that much of the country (especially young voters) has abandoned mainstream media for other options, including podcasts and social media. - Having unspoken rules like 'waiting your turn' to make a presidential bid, meanwhile politicians that don't follow the unspoken rules gets cast out when they make their presidential bid - this behavior leads to worse candidates that are more likely to lose. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 11, 2024 16:48:59 GMT -8
I don't think it's hard for the dems to come back. -Get away from the woke racism/sexism/fillintheblank-ism victim mentality at every turn. -Quit encouraging kids to be trans, since a male can't become a female no matter what anyway - even if they take pills and cut their genitals off (Wild I need to even say this) -Have a strong border - like the way dems used to feel about the border before they had to be against it in order to go against Trump's stance since 2016 -Come up with an actually decent candidate -Quit printing money (both sides) - reel in spending. We don't have a tax revenue problem, we have a SPENDING problem There's plenty more I'd like to change but if they just do those things I bet they would've won this election no problem The data says otherwise. Every single incumbent party, regardless of what that party is/was, lost voter share. Every developed country in the world. That's not an accident, it's a conscious shift towards fundamental change. The border stopped being relevant when the Speaker of the House said they could wait until after the election to provide solutions. That's not a crisis, it's theater. The average voter doesn't study issues, they vote based on beliefs and notions that are held in the moment. The electorate isn't getting smarter, just more polarized. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 11, 2024 16:51:16 GMT -8
And how will the Republicans handle being in total control? Will they lord over everyone like they're the only ones elected, or will they work with the Democrats at all? Will they behave like authoritarians, or will they honor the democratic principles of the founders of this country? I think the irony of all of this is that Democrat elitism and authoritarianism lost them this election. - Not running a real primary, by controlling the mainstream media, hiding Biden's decline and Democratic leaders jumping on Dean Phillips for starting a primary bid instead of giving him a real chance. - Kamala being 'too big' to go on Joe Rogan or other podcasts, not realizing that much of the country (especially young voters) has abandoned mainstream media for other options, including podcasts and social media. - Having unspoken rules like 'waiting your turn' to make a presidential bid, meanwhile politicians that don't follow the unspoken rules gets cast out when they make their presidential bid - this behavior leads to worse candidates that are more likely to lose. Harris was not "too big" to go on the Rogan podcast. And can we finally stop the idea of having a primary at the end of July? It was never happening. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 11, 2024 16:58:28 GMT -8
I don't think it's hard for the dems to come back. -Get away from the woke racism/sexism/fillintheblank-ism victim mentality at every turn. -Quit encouraging kids to be trans, since a male can't become a female no matter what anyway - even if they take pills and cut their genitals off (Wild I need to even say this) -Have a strong border - like the way dems used to feel about the border before they had to be against it in order to go against Trump's stance since 2016 -Come up with an actually decent candidate -Quit printing money (both sides) - reel in spending. We don't have a tax revenue problem, we have a SPENDING problem There's plenty more I'd like to change but if they just do those things I bet they would've won this election no problem The data says otherwise. Every single incumbent party, regardless of what that party is/was, lost voter share. Every developed country in the world. That's not an accident, it's a conscious shift towards fundamenental change. The border stopped being relevant when the Speaker of the House said they could wait until after the election to provide solutions. That's not a crisis, it's theater. The average voter doesn't study issues, they vote based on beliefs and notions that are held in the moment. The electorate isn't getting smarter, just more polarized. Truth bomb! |
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 17, 2024 22:28:40 GMT -8
I don't think it's hard for the dems to come back. -Get away from the woke racism/sexism/fillintheblank-ism victim mentality at every turn. -Quit encouraging kids to be trans, since a male can't become a female no matter what anyway - even if they take pills and cut their genitals off (Wild I need to even say this) -Have a strong border - like the way dems used to feel about the border before they had to be against it in order to go against Trump's stance since 2016 -Come up with an actually decent candidate -Quit printing money (both sides) - reel in spending. We don't have a tax revenue problem, we have a SPENDING problem There's plenty more I'd like to change but if they just do those things I bet they would've won this election no problem No, they're too obsessed with their own party hubris: identity politics, pushing away outsiders and progressives, controlling the presidential pick via the mainstream media and superdelegate system. They probably aren't going to win in 2028. |
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