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Post by laaztec on Sept 23, 2024 18:02:48 GMT -8
UNLV to the PAC 12. Air Force to the AAC. New Mexico to CUSA.
All schools that are leaving vote to dissolve the MW.
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Post by jp92grad on Sept 23, 2024 19:53:33 GMT -8
UNLV to the PAC 12. Air Force to the AAC. New Mexico to CUSA. All schools that are leaving vote to dissolve the MW. yes yes yes more of this |
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Post by sdsudevil on Sept 23, 2024 20:06:13 GMT -8
Schools that have officially gave notice of resignation are removed from the board, and they can't vote. So currently only 7 members can vote, and those folks aren't gonna do that.
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Post by Den60 on Sept 23, 2024 20:10:59 GMT -8
UNLV to the PAC 12. Air Force to the AAC. New Mexico to CUSA. All schools that are leaving vote to dissolve the MW. The number is 9, not 8. Still, there is no way in hell the MWC is getting $31M for each departing school to the PAC. |
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Post by Gundo on Sept 23, 2024 20:13:37 GMT -8
Schools that have officially gave notice of resignation are removed from the board, and they can't vote. So currently only 7 members can vote, and those folks aren't gonna do that. They are not voting against their windfall take. |
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Post by laaztec on Sept 24, 2024 6:34:49 GMT -8
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Post by LostAztec on Sept 24, 2024 7:21:31 GMT -8
The MW screwed the pooch.
Instead of offering AFA and UNLV monster bonuses, they should have offered to divvy up the poaching fees of $6 mil per School. That way all Schools get an instant cash infusion. The exit fees could then be used to bring in more Schools and to offset the projected revenue hit.
The Utags saw the disparity and flew the coop.
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Post by AzTex on Sept 24, 2024 9:26:36 GMT -8
Schools that have officially gave notice of resignation are removed from the board, and they can't vote. So currently only 7 members can vote, and those folks aren't gonna do that. It takes at least 75% of remaining members to vote for dissolution. 75% or 7 members equals 5.25. You have to round up, so 6 of the remaining 7 members would have to vote for dissolution. Not happening. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 24, 2024 9:40:33 GMT -8
Money is great but cash flow is better. the one-time windfall is just that a one-time windfall, there is no lasting value. the institutions that want to keep going are looking at all there options.
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Post by panammaniac on Sept 24, 2024 9:47:44 GMT -8
UNLV to the PAC 12. Air Force to the AAC. New Mexico to CUSA. All schools that are leaving vote to dissolve the MW. One thing I can say about this with 100% certainty is that UNM will not be joining CUSA, except as an absolute last resort, and even then I think they'd consider going independent and parking their Olympic sports in the WAC or Summit until they found a better option. Why do I say this? 1. The conference payout. CUSA pays about $800K per school as opposed to the current MWC deal which is north of $3 million. They would explore every possible option before taking that big of a hit. 2. As I've pointed out many times, UNM and NMSU don't play nice together. Those two schools absolutely despise each other. I don't expect that UNM would willingly take a big pay cut to move into NMSU's turf, again unless it is their absolute last option and they didn't think they could survive long as an indy. There's some rumblings going on about a potential MWC/AAC merger. I don't know if that's a pipe dream by MWC schools, but the MWC is going to do everything it possibly can to stay intact and collect the exit fees. |
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Post by laaztec on Sept 24, 2024 9:48:56 GMT -8
UNLV to the PAC 12. Air Force to the AAC. New Mexico to CUSA. All schools that are leaving vote to dissolve the MW. One thing I can say about this with 100% certainty is that UNM will not be joining CUSA, except as an absolute last resort, and even then I think they'd consider going independent and parking their Olympic sports in the WAC or Summit until they found a better option. Why do I say this? 1. The conference payout. CUSA pays about $800K per school as opposed to the current MWC deal which is north of $3 million. They would explore every possible option before taking that big of a hit. 2. As I've pointed out many times, UNM and NMSU don't play nice together. Those two schools absolutely despise each other. I don't expect that UNM would willingly take a big pay cut to move into NMSU's turf, again unless it is their absolute last option and they didn't think they could survive long as an indy. There's some rumblings going on about a potential MWC/AAC merger. I don't know if that's a pipe dream by MWC schools, but the MWC is going to do everything it possibly can to stay intact and collect the exit fees. I don't care where they go as long I don't have to think about them again. |
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Sept 24, 2024 9:55:02 GMT -8
Does anyone know if any of the 5 MWC schools have actually given proper notice to the conference? I am sure MWC will argue a constructive notice and reference SDSU's notice last year and how all of the MWC members took them off of the board and stopped disbursement payments. This is very similar to the PAC after USC/UCLA left. Colorado jurisdiction and not Washington. SDSU/ FSU needs to file suit in California, a much favorable jurisdiction/ Much like FSU and Clemson both jurisdiction shopped.
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Post by sdsudevil on Sept 24, 2024 11:17:58 GMT -8
Does anyone know if any of the 5 MWC schools have actually given proper notice to the conference? I am sure MWC will argue a constructive notice and reference SDSU's notice last year and how all of the MWC members took them off of the board and stopped disbursement payments. This is very similar to the PAC after USC/UCLA left. Colorado jurisdiction and not Washington. SDSU/ FSU needs to file suit in California, a much favorable jurisdiction/ Much like FSU and Clemson both jurisdiction shopped. I think announcing you are leaving and then trying to dissolve the conference is not a good chronological basis to stand on in court. If the goal was to dissolve, you try it before accepting an invite elsewhere. Even then, I think if there was a vote and it did I deed get a dissolution, and then a majority of those who voted to dissolve immediately went to the Pac, the left-behinds could have a good case to sue for damages under a collusary claim. |
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Post by namssa on Sept 24, 2024 11:54:28 GMT -8
The PAC10 tried to dissolve the conference but the PAC2 won in court. The MWC won't dissolve unless the last few decide to go to another conference and no one is left standing. With the amount of exit fees they will be getting, I seriously doubt that will happen.
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Sept 24, 2024 11:59:54 GMT -8
Does anyone know if any of the 5 MWC schools have actually given proper notice to the conference? I am sure MWC will argue a constructive notice and reference SDSU's notice last year and how all of the MWC members took them off of the board and stopped disbursement payments. This is very similar to the PAC after USC/UCLA left. Colorado jurisdiction and not Washington. SDSU/ FSU needs to file suit in California, a much favorable jurisdiction/ Much like FSU and Clemson both jurisdiction shopped. I think announcing you are leaving and then trying to dissolve the conference is not a good chronological basis to stand on in court. If the goal was to dissolve, you try it before accepting an invite elsewhere. Even then, I think if there was a vote and it did I deed get a dissolution, and then a majority of those who voted to dissolve immediately went to the Pac, the left-behinds could have a good case to sue for damages under a collusary claim. Most likely. Better just to Sue and then negotiate down exit fees. |
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