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Post by imtharealist on Sept 19, 2024 6:11:33 GMT -8
It’s almost like CBS could’ve paid more and the the top 4 of the MW wouldn’t have left…
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Post by Den60 on Sept 19, 2024 8:28:06 GMT -8
If they can get close to $15M/team, then I can see schools signing up through 2030. I do think exit penalties will be fairer than what the MWC has tried to implement. Exit fees are ludicrous in today's CFP football landscape. As far as the PAC, there's a 5 year window to establish itself until the next big wave of changes come with television and streaming deals, changing the rules again. Barnes did say that these universities are of the same mind-set and accept the same level of risk. I tend to think it won't take that long for schools to realize the extent that travel negatively effects their sports. Lawsuits from athletes in the Olympic sports is sure to happen starting this year. |
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Post by aztech on Sept 19, 2024 11:27:02 GMT -8
It’s almost like CBS could’ve paid more and the the top 4 of the MW wouldn’t have left… I hope the PAC media deal will be with a network that's included in the Nielsen ratings. When or if our football starts winning then it should justify our value. CBSSN had a good thing going for them, not us. If the MWC still exists they'll be lucky to get the same dollars from their CBS contract renewal. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Sept 19, 2024 11:30:23 GMT -8
Exit fees are ludicrous in today's CFP football landscape. As far as the PAC, there's a 5 year window to establish itself until the next big wave of changes come with television and streaming deals, changing the rules again. Barnes did say that these universities are of the same mind-set and accept the same level of risk. I tend to think it won't take that long for schools to realize the extent that travel negatively effects their sports. Lawsuits from athletes in the Olympic sports is sure to happen starting this year. I have been kinda surprised that there hasn’t been anything from a Title IX or other type of lawsuit yet… it has to be coming… as the athletes become employees… which the Georgia governor just allowed in his state, they will unionize and then they can vote on work rules… like a maximum amount of travel miles, etc. |
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Post by 01aztecgrad on Sept 20, 2024 5:08:12 GMT -8
Exit fees are ludicrous in today's CFP football landscape. As far as the PAC, there's a 5 year window to establish itself until the next big wave of changes come with television and streaming deals, changing the rules again. Barnes did say that these universities are of the same mind-set and accept the same level of risk. I tend to think it won't take that long for schools to realize the extent that travel negatively effects their sports. Lawsuits from athletes in the Olympic sports is sure to happen starting this year. If the Olympic sports win those lawsuits, the most straightforward answer is conferences dropping Olympic sports and allowing regional conferences to be formed for all but Football and Basketball. There's an NCAA rule about the minimum number of sports a conference has to offer, but that is an easy change to make. When you look at a lot of men's sports, it's already common for the conference to look nothing like the conference for football/basketball/Women's sports. It would make a lot of sense to free up non-revenue sports to form regional conferences. |
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Post by azteclou on Sept 20, 2024 6:41:25 GMT -8
I don’t understand your headline. This article had nothing to do with CBS TV network. I believe new Pac-12 will have great value. Gould talks about this league looking to the future and doing things different. I guarantee there will be a streamer involved. Dodd’s article assumes only traditional TV networks. Remember Apple was going to pay handsomely for the old Pac-12. There is definitely value here and Dodd needs to think outside the box because that’s exactly what Gould and the new 6 pac are doing. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 20, 2024 7:10:02 GMT -8
I don’t understand your headline. This article had nothing to do with CBS TV network. I believe new Pac-12 will have great value. Gould talks about this league looking to the future and doing things different. I guarantee there will be a streamer involved. Dodd’s article assumes only traditional TV networks. Remember Apple was going to pay handsomely for the old Pac-12. There is definitely value here and Dodd needs to think outside the box because that’s exactly what Gould and the new 6 pac are doing. Dodd from CBS is not happy and he takes swings at this project. In fact this is written as an opening term sheet for the CBS. 1. He laid out the fear. The PAC Thought they were worth $50M and they collapsed. "The old Pac-12 broke apart basically because Utah president Taylor Randall convinced his peers that the league was worth $50 million per school. They were brutally wrong." 2. He sets the valuation for the new league at the floor of the MW contract using Industry sources. "Industry sources weren't sure which way forward the Pac-12 would take. They were sure almost unanimously that the new Pac-12 won't get much more than the current Mountain West deal, which is $45 million per year from current rights holders Fox and CBS." 3. He casts doubt on the value of the properties. "Only one of the six new Pac-12 schools (Washington State) is among the top 50 in total TV viewers since 2016." and "What network would overpay for a Pac-12 that still isn't officially a conference yet?" If I was negotiating a contract against the PAC, this is how I would start the conversation. This is liking publishing the whereas of your term sheet as an article. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 20, 2024 7:17:28 GMT -8
I don’t understand your headline. This article had nothing to do with CBS TV network. I believe new Pac-12 will have great value. Gould talks about this league looking to the future and doing things different. I guarantee there will be a streamer involved. Dodd’s article assumes only traditional TV networks. Remember Apple was going to pay handsomely for the old Pac-12. There is definitely value here and Dodd needs to think outside the box because that’s exactly what Gould and the new 6 pac are doing. Dodd from CBS is not happy and he takes swings at this project. In fact this is written as an opening term sheet for the CBS. 1. He laid out the fear. The PAC Thought they were worth $50M and they collapsed. "The old Pac-12 broke apart basically because Utah president Taylor Randall convinced his peers that the league was worth $50 million per school. They were brutally wrong." 2. He sets the valuation for the new league at the floor of the MW contract using Industry sources. "Industry sources weren't sure which way forward the Pac-12 would take. They were sure almost unanimously that the new Pac-12 won't get much more than the current Mountain West deal, which is $45 million per year from current rights holders Fox and CBS." 3. He casts doubt on the value of the properties. "Only one of the six new Pac-12 schools (Washington State) is among the top 50 in total TV viewers since 2016." and "What network would overpay for a Pac-12 that still isn't officially a conference yet?" If I was negotiating a contract against the PAC, this is how I would start the conversation. This is liking publishing the whereas of your term sheet as an article. I forgot to add in this blurb: "It might be easier for the new Pac-12 to shake loose the likes of Memphis and UTSA from the American, but those schools aren't going to add much value to the deal either. "It's not like these are great big ratings grabber schools," one industry source said. I guess the PAC can't add value either. |
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Post by standiego on Sept 20, 2024 11:34:36 GMT -8
key for schools is to be going to be the upside of their new Conference's TV deal - and who pays their exit fees to make it worth their while to leave
does the Big 12 also want them or what is going to be the status of the ACC
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Post by greysuit on Sept 20, 2024 13:59:25 GMT -8
Im hoping that CBS is out, CBSSN is terrible and is the only major college football channel that there is not a streaming option for that is not a full cable like package (Youtube TV, Fubo, Direct TV, etc.) I'm guessing a TV Deal with a streaming company (Apple TV or Amazon) is already in place otherwise the 4 Mountain West schools would not have made the jump.
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Post by greysuit on Sept 20, 2024 14:06:04 GMT -8
I tend to think it won't take that long for schools to realize the extent that travel negatively effects their sports. Lawsuits from athletes in the Olympic sports is sure to happen starting this year. If the Olympic sports win those lawsuits, the most straightforward answer is conferences dropping Olympic sports and allowing regional conferences to be formed for all but Football and Basketball. There's an NCAA rule about the minimum number of sports a conference has to offer, but that is an easy change to make. When you look at a lot of men's sports, it's already common for the conference to look nothing like the conference for football/basketball/Women's sports. It would make a lot of sense to free up non-revenue sports to form regional conferences. Sure, but if they vote to travel less then the school will make less on TV contracts and that will mean the athletes will get paid less. I think the real lawsuits will be over if all the athletes make the same amount of money regardless of sport or gender or if the money-making sports and star athletes get paid more, much like the pro leagues. The lawsuit against the B1G network from the former Michigan players will be interesting in that realm, as it will determine if the schools and networks need to pay specific athlete for using their name image and likeliness for promotional purposes. |
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