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Post by AzTex on Aug 29, 2024 14:11:41 GMT -8
As you know, we haven't had a Sky Show and/or Holiday Bowl at Snapdragon so we can only make wild guesses. The parking at previous Sky Shows was always a mess due to about 1/3 of the parking lot closed for the fireworks, a large crowd and people just parking in the lot to see the fire works. After a particularly bad experience with the Sky Show parking one year I started using the trolley for them. I haven't experienced any problems with parking or traffic for Aztec games so far. But I do get to the games early. The worst seat in Section 108 Row 33 is at the 30 yard line. The best seat is at the 37 yard line. Unless you're in the more expensive box seats in the row. Here's a link to a 3D map of the seating area which can also show the view from any seat in the stadium. Cool, thanks. That's a great seat map and it looks like I picked pretty good seats. There was a huge price difference between the seats I selected on about the 35 yard line and the box seats in the same section - those were about double the price. I figured this would be good for the first HB in the stadium and if I don't like them I can pick different seats later. One nice perk of being a "charter Holiday Bowl" member is we get to pick our seats before they go on sale to the general public, so I had literally the entire stadium to choose from. For about the same price point I could have been in the first row of the upper deck on the 50, but the seats I picked look like a good tradeoff. As for parking I'll just have to wait and see I guess. I took the trolley in the last few times it was at Qualcomm and that worked well. I did the same when it was at Petco. I drive back to OC right after the game and really don't want to spend an hour trying to get out of the parking lot because I get home pretty late as it is. I love that seat map. I've used it a lot. Yes, the box seats are substantially more. For Aztec games season tickets you have to buy 4 seats if you want the box seats. That really runs up the price.
Even though my son just comes from the Fletcher Hills area he's been taking the trolley instead of parking. I live in South Riverside County so I understand how tough the long drive can be.
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Post by aztech on Aug 29, 2024 14:25:08 GMT -8
The city has to be pissed that we took the Holiday Bowl away from them. Turnaround is fair play. We were their subserviants with the usuage of Qualcomm stadium, for decades. It has nothing to do with the city. The HB had a partnership with the Padres to use Petco Park for a few years. It was the Padres who fronted the money for the seating renovation to accommodate football, with the money to be repaid through the duration of the contract to host the game there. I'm surprised/not surprised that it's being moved to Snapdragon. Surprised because the game environment at Petco was fantastic. Even though it very obviously isn't a football venue, having the game downtown where all of the team activities were and where most of the fans were staying was great. It was like a massive party down there with the fans of both schools milling around the Gaslamp. And there's just something weirdly and unexplainably cool about playing a football game in a baseball stadium. Also surprising because the HB folks were adamant about Snapdragon not having enough seats for their game. Not surprising because of the obvious - Snapdragon is a better football venue. Interestingly enough, tickets for the game at Snapdragon are quite a bit cheaper than they were at Petco. I expected the opposite given the reduced seating capacity. Also interestingly, the Padres have said that they aren't done with college football at Petco. Look for them to find some other college game to host in the future - not necessarily a bowl game, but something like the Notre Dame/Navy game that was at Qualcomm a few years back, or the Army/Navy game, or any number of other games. Yes, the city has to be pissed for the very reason you said yourself. Less revenue for the Gaslamp. |
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Aug 29, 2024 14:50:05 GMT -8
Cool, thanks. That's a great seat map and it looks like I picked pretty good seats. There was a huge price difference between the seats I selected on about the 35 yard line and the box seats in the same section - those were about double the price. I figured this would be good for the first HB in the stadium and if I don't like them I can pick different seats later. One nice perk of being a "charter Holiday Bowl" member is we get to pick our seats before they go on sale to the general public, so I had literally the entire stadium to choose from. For about the same price point I could have been in the first row of the upper deck on the 50, but the seats I picked look like a good tradeoff. As for parking I'll just have to wait and see I guess. I took the trolley in the last few times it was at Qualcomm and that worked well. I did the same when it was at Petco. I drive back to OC right after the game and really don't want to spend an hour trying to get out of the parking lot because I get home pretty late as it is. I love that seat map. I've used it a lot. Yes, the box seats are substantially more. For Aztec games season tickets you have to buy 4 seats if you want the box seats. That really runs up the price.
Even though my son just comes from the Fletcher Hills area he's been taking the trolley instead of parking. I live in South Riverside County so I understand how tough the long drive can be.
That is correct and I passed on the Aztec football season tickets in the box because I didn't want to commit to 4 seats. I can only justify so much spend before Mrs. Hopeless Aztec comes and takes me to the woodshed. I am already in the dog house enough so I don't need more reasons to get in trouble. It is a great seat map though and thanks for sharing. |
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Post by aztecfanatico on Aug 29, 2024 15:44:24 GMT -8
Never attended HB although been attending Aztec Games since early 90's and season tix holder since 2013. Will tix go on sale to Aztec season tix holders like other offers? If so, will def purchase tix to support my Alma Mater!
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Post by Den60 on Aug 29, 2024 17:18:49 GMT -8
The city has to be pissed that we took the Holiday Bowl away from them. Turnaround is fair play. We were their subserviants with the usuage of Qualcomm stadium, for decades. Still, the great majority of money spent during the week will be downtown. |
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Post by panammaniac on Aug 30, 2024 8:37:09 GMT -8
It has nothing to do with the city. The HB had a partnership with the Padres to use Petco Park for a few years. It was the Padres who fronted the money for the seating renovation to accommodate football, with the money to be repaid through the duration of the contract to host the game there. I'm surprised/not surprised that it's being moved to Snapdragon. Surprised because the game environment at Petco was fantastic. Even though it very obviously isn't a football venue, having the game downtown where all of the team activities were and where most of the fans were staying was great. It was like a massive party down there with the fans of both schools milling around the Gaslamp. And there's just something weirdly and unexplainably cool about playing a football game in a baseball stadium. Also surprising because the HB folks were adamant about Snapdragon not having enough seats for their game. Not surprising because of the obvious - Snapdragon is a better football venue. Interestingly enough, tickets for the game at Snapdragon are quite a bit cheaper than they were at Petco. I expected the opposite given the reduced seating capacity. Also interestingly, the Padres have said that they aren't done with college football at Petco. Look for them to find some other college game to host in the future - not necessarily a bowl game, but something like the Notre Dame/Navy game that was at Qualcomm a few years back, or the Army/Navy game, or any number of other games. Yes, the city has to be pissed for the very reason you said yourself. Less revenue for the Gaslamp. It's revenue for the city no matter where the game is held. People will be staying in hotels, renting cars, and eating in restaurants. Many of those people will be staying and eating downtown. If not downtown, then in the Mission Valley/Hotel Circle area. All of the hotels contribute to the city's TOT regardless of where in the city they are. The Gaslamp may not get quite as much pre- and post-game traffic. It only makes sense to say that the bars and clubs in the Gaslamp would be busier if the game was a block down the street instead of in Mission Valley. But still a lot of those people will trolley from Snapdragon back to their downtown hotels and go out for a drink or late night snack. Everyone still has to eat before the game. The money will be spent somewhere and the city will get just as much tax revenue as it did in any previous year. I am curious what went down between the HB folks and the Padres, if anything went down, that caused them to move the game. It could be that they just wanted the game in a stadium that's designed for football. While having the game in Petco was cool in a lot of ways, a lot of the seats were less than optimal. I was fortunate enough to have great seats on the Toyota Terrace level near the 50, but if you were lower deck in the baseball infield area the seats weren't great. I kind of doubt that alone was what caused them to move though. Despite its shortcomings, the HB folks in conjunction with the Padres created an awesome bowl game environment at Petco. I have to think contract negotiations stalled for one reason or another. It cost well over $1 million to reconfigure the seats for football so I'm sure the intention wasn't to just have two or three games there. Perhaps the costs of holding the game at Petco by the time they reconfigured the seats, re-turfed the field and so on it was just too expensive, and with that in conjunction with the seating arrangement it made more sense to move the game to Snapdragon. I'm open-minded and looking forward to it since I haven't had the opportunity to go to Snapdragon yet. I haven't been to that part of San Diego since shortly after Qualcomm was demolished. I just hope they can replicate the bowl game environment that they had at Petco because those were a couple of the most fun Holiday Bowls I've attended - not in terms of the actual game necessarily, but in terms of the entire gameday experience. |
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Post by Den60 on Aug 30, 2024 9:10:24 GMT -8
Yes, the city has to be pissed for the very reason you said yourself. Less revenue for the Gaslamp. It's revenue for the city no matter where the game is held. People will be staying in hotels, renting cars, and eating in restaurants. Many of those people will be staying and eating downtown. If not downtown, then in the Mission Valley/Hotel Circle area. All of the hotels contribute to the city's TOT regardless of where in the city they are. The Gaslamp may not get quite as much pre- and post-game traffic. It only makes sense to say that the bars and clubs in the Gaslamp would be busier if the game was a block down the street instead of in Mission Valley. But still a lot of those people will trolley from Snapdragon back to their downtown hotels and go out for a drink or late night snack. Everyone still has to eat before the game. The money will be spent somewhere and the city will get just as much tax revenue as it did in any previous year. I am curious what went down between the HB folks and the Padres, if anything went down, that caused them to move the game. It could be that they just wanted the game in a stadium that's designed for football. While having the game in Petco was cool in a lot of ways, a lot of the seats were less than optimal. I was fortunate enough to have great seats on the Toyota Terrace level near the 50, but if you were lower deck in the baseball infield area the seats weren't great. I kind of doubt that alone was what caused them to move though. Despite its shortcomings, the HB folks in conjunction with the Padres created an awesome bowl game environment at Petco. I have to think contract negotiations stalled for one reason or another. It cost well over $1 million to reconfigure the seats for football so I'm sure the intention wasn't to just have two or three games there. Perhaps the costs of holding the game at Petco by the time they reconfigured the seats, re-turfed the field and so on it was just too expensive, and with that in conjunction with the seating arrangement it made more sense to move the game to Snapdragon. I'm open-minded and looking forward to it since I haven't had the opportunity to go to Snapdragon yet. I haven't been to that part of San Diego since shortly after Qualcomm was demolished. I just hope they can replicate the bowl game environment that they had at Petco because those were a couple of the most fun Holiday Bowls I've attended - not in terms of the actual game necessarily, but in terms of the entire gameday experience. What went down is likely a combination of the PAC self-destruction reducing the value of their product under the current terms and the fact that bowl games not associated with the CFP have been significantly diminished due to the transfer portal. If the players don't care if they miss a bowl game why should the fans? We will see the number of bowl games decrease in the future. The Holiday Bowl is likely safe, given San Diego is a great tourist destination. |
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Post by aztech on Aug 30, 2024 9:32:50 GMT -8
Yes, the city has to be pissed for the very reason you said yourself. Less revenue for the Gaslamp. It's revenue for the city no matter where the game is held. People will be staying in hotels, renting cars, and eating in restaurants. Many of those people will be staying and eating downtown. If not downtown, then in the Mission Valley/Hotel Circle area. All of the hotels contribute to the city's TOT regardless of where in the city they are. The Gaslamp may not get quite as much pre- and post-game traffic. It only makes sense to say that the bars and clubs in the Gaslamp would be busier if the game was a block down the street instead of in Mission Valley. But still a lot of those people will trolley from Snapdragon back to their downtown hotels and go out for a drink or late night snack. Everyone still has to eat before the game. The money will be spent somewhere and the city will get just as much tax revenue as it did in any previous year. I am curious what went down between the HB folks and the Padres, if anything went down, that caused them to move the game. It could be that they just wanted the game in a stadium that's designed for football. While having the game in Petco was cool in a lot of ways, a lot of the seats were less than optimal. I was fortunate enough to have great seats on the Toyota Terrace level near the 50, but if you were lower deck in the baseball infield area the seats weren't great. I kind of doubt that alone was what caused them to move though. Despite its shortcomings, the HB folks in conjunction with the Padres created an awesome bowl game environment at Petco. I have to think contract negotiations stalled for one reason or another. It cost well over $1 million to reconfigure the seats for football so I'm sure the intention wasn't to just have two or three games there. Perhaps the costs of holding the game at Petco by the time they reconfigured the seats, re-turfed the field and so on it was just too expensive, and with that in conjunction with the seating arrangement it made more sense to move the game to Snapdragon. I'm open-minded and looking forward to it since I haven't had the opportunity to go to Snapdragon yet. I haven't been to that part of San Diego since shortly after Qualcomm was demolished. I just hope they can replicate the bowl game environment that they had at Petco because those were a couple of the most fun Holiday Bowls I've attended - not in terms of the actual game necessarily, but in terms of the entire gameday experience. In simnple terms, we(SDSU) win. |
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Post by panammaniac on Aug 30, 2024 9:36:18 GMT -8
It's revenue for the city no matter where the game is held. People will be staying in hotels, renting cars, and eating in restaurants. Many of those people will be staying and eating downtown. If not downtown, then in the Mission Valley/Hotel Circle area. All of the hotels contribute to the city's TOT regardless of where in the city they are. The Gaslamp may not get quite as much pre- and post-game traffic. It only makes sense to say that the bars and clubs in the Gaslamp would be busier if the game was a block down the street instead of in Mission Valley. But still a lot of those people will trolley from Snapdragon back to their downtown hotels and go out for a drink or late night snack. Everyone still has to eat before the game. The money will be spent somewhere and the city will get just as much tax revenue as it did in any previous year. I am curious what went down between the HB folks and the Padres, if anything went down, that caused them to move the game. It could be that they just wanted the game in a stadium that's designed for football. While having the game in Petco was cool in a lot of ways, a lot of the seats were less than optimal. I was fortunate enough to have great seats on the Toyota Terrace level near the 50, but if you were lower deck in the baseball infield area the seats weren't great. I kind of doubt that alone was what caused them to move though. Despite its shortcomings, the HB folks in conjunction with the Padres created an awesome bowl game environment at Petco. I have to think contract negotiations stalled for one reason or another. It cost well over $1 million to reconfigure the seats for football so I'm sure the intention wasn't to just have two or three games there. Perhaps the costs of holding the game at Petco by the time they reconfigured the seats, re-turfed the field and so on it was just too expensive, and with that in conjunction with the seating arrangement it made more sense to move the game to Snapdragon. I'm open-minded and looking forward to it since I haven't had the opportunity to go to Snapdragon yet. I haven't been to that part of San Diego since shortly after Qualcomm was demolished. I just hope they can replicate the bowl game environment that they had at Petco because those were a couple of the most fun Holiday Bowls I've attended - not in terms of the actual game necessarily, but in terms of the entire gameday experience. What went down is likely a combination of the PAC self-destruction reducing the value of their product under the current terms and the fact that bowl games not associated with the CFP have been significantly diminished due to the transfer portal. If the players don't care if they miss a bowl game why should the fans? We will see the number of bowl games decrease in the future. The Holiday Bowl is likely safe, given San Diego is a great tourist destination. Good point. There's too many bowl games today. In a lot of cases, going to the game is a money-losing proposition for the school. The payouts are too small to offset the expense of playing. There are so many bowl games today that you usually see a few 6-6 teams and even 5-7 teams playing in them. Pretty much all you have to do anymore is win 6 games and you're in. By winning 6 games you might get rewarded with a trip to the Bahamas Bowl and the enormous cost of traveling to Nassau to play in a 15K seat soccer stadium (although that bowl is a CUSA tie-in and it probably isn't quite as expensive traveling there from the Southeast where the majority of CUSA schools reside). The Holiday Bowl is safe. It's been around for a long time now and is still at the top of the non-CFP bowls in terms of payouts. It's obviously going to need a new tie-in after this year though. It will be interesting to see what happens. |
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Post by AzTex on Aug 31, 2024 8:37:05 GMT -8
Far too early question: What is parking and traffic like at Snapdragon? I haven't been over to the old Qualcomm site since the last event at the Q, which ironically was the last Holiday Bowl held there. I just bought my tickets for this year's game - Section 108 Row 23 which looks like pretty decent seats as far as I can tell. Just wondering if I should drive to the stadium and park there, or if I should park at say Old Town Transit Center and take the trolley in. The latter is what I used to do for the last half dozen or so Holiday Bowls because getting in and out of the Qualcomm lot for that game got to be really bad. I'll mention one other thing. While getting into the parking lot for a Sky Show was sometimes a problem, I never had a problem leaving after the game. That was because while I always stayed until the very end of the game, I didn't stay for the fireworks. So leaving the parking lot was a breeze. The only problem leaving I had was for most games, because of the "fans" coming into the stadium after the game only to see the fireworks the escalators were kept running up not down. All of us leaving then had to walk down the ramp. |
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Post by missiontrails on Aug 31, 2024 9:00:29 GMT -8
Far too early question: What is parking and traffic like at Snapdragon? I haven't been over to the old Qualcomm site since the last event at the Q, which ironically was the last Holiday Bowl held there. I just bought my tickets for this year's game - Section 108 Row 23 which looks like pretty decent seats as far as I can tell. Just wondering if I should drive to the stadium and park there, or if I should park at say Old Town Transit Center and take the trolley in. The latter is what I used to do for the last half dozen or so Holiday Bowls because getting in and out of the Qualcomm lot for that game got to be really bad. I'll mention one other thing. While getting into the parking lot for a Sky Show was sometimes a problem, I never had a problem leaving after the game. That was because while I always stayed until the very end of the game, I didn't stay for the fireworks. So leaving the parking lot was a breeze. The only problem leaving I had was for most games, because of the "fans" coming into the stadium after the game only to see the fireworks the escalators were kept running up not down. All of us leaving then had to walk down the ramp.Just think of the added cardio benefit you gained.  |
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Post by AzTex on Aug 31, 2024 9:10:34 GMT -8
I'll mention one other thing. While getting into the parking lot for a Sky Show was sometimes a problem, I never had a problem leaving after the game. That was because while I always stayed until the very end of the game, I didn't stay for the fireworks. So leaving the parking lot was a breeze. The only problem leaving I had was for most games, because of the "fans" coming into the stadium after the game only to see the fireworks the escalators were kept running up not down. All of us leaving then had to walk down the ramp.Just think of the added cardio benefit you gained. I thought about it with every step. I didn't need that added to the long walk from the outer edge of the parking lot (parking out there made it easier to get out of the lot), back and fourth. But thanks for the thought.  |
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Post by jdaztec on Aug 31, 2024 9:41:39 GMT -8
I had my own system. I would sit in my convertible with the top down in the parking lot with the radio turned to KGB . As soon as the Skyshow ended drive easily out of the parking lot. It was great.
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Post by junior on Aug 31, 2024 11:28:34 GMT -8
People just like to watch stuff get blown up. That's all. Air quality, safety, and wildlife be damned…
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