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Post by aztecryan on Sept 25, 2024 11:55:58 GMT -8
🙄 This really reads like trolling to me. Trump started the xenophobic comments with Barack Obama, and then years later as a Presidential candidate with disgusting rhetoric about immigrants in general, then his xenophobic comments and actions towards Muslims was over the top racist. He's talking about a specific action, Erik. Do you always have to go to the trolling card? Sheesh. You must like having certain people walk on eggshells. Whether he's right or wrong, he's not being disrespectful. People may be wrong in their assumptions, but it doesn't mean they're trolling. Do you want this forum to be completely one sided and not hear others views. Tone down the trolling threats. You're reaching here, big time. No, he isn't. Insinuating that the xenophobia started with Democrats in 2019 is false. It's not even debatable, actually. Erik is correct. I don't understand how you can't realize that having an opposing view IN GOOD FAITH is 100% fine. It's the obvious mistruths and false representations and claims that rise to the level of what the OP is doing. It's bad faith. You're the one reaching.
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Post by azson on Sept 25, 2024 11:57:30 GMT -8
I'd add fear to the list as well. Lack pf education/critical thinking skills + racist/xenophobic fear-driven propaganda = Trump voters. racist/xenophobic fear-driven propaganda was started by Democrats (Pelosi) at the beginning of Covid-19 when Trump wanted to shut down travel to/from China. This created a bunch of Trump Haters. Trump being Trump calling Covid-19 the Chinese virus was a problem as well. Covid-19 was totally politicized at the expense of the American people. And you wonder why you've got a troll warning on your account? So obviously disingenuous. Oh, and Trump had plenty of haters due to his racist propaganda long before he was president: www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/17/central-park-five-donald-trump-jogger-rape-case-new-york
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 25, 2024 11:57:33 GMT -8
🙄 This really reads like trolling to me. Trump started the xenophobic comments with Barack Obama, and then years later as a Presidential candidate with disgusting rhetoric about immigrants in general, then his xenophobic comments and actions towards Muslims was over the top racist. He's talking about a specific action, Erik. Do you always have to go to the trolling card? Sheesh. You must like having certain people walk on eggshells. Whether he's right or wrong, he's not being disrespectful. People may be wrong in their assumptions, but it doesn't mean they're trolling. Do you want this forum to be completely one sided and not hear others views. Tone down the trolling threats. You're reaching here, big time. He's presenting lies, either intentionally or through ignorance. I find it hard to believe anyone posting on a political forum, claiming to be as knowledgeable and well informed as he claims could be that ignorant. So then we're back to posting disingenuous comments in bad faith. AKA: trolling.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 25, 2024 12:03:06 GMT -8
🙄 This really reads like trolling to me. Trump started the xenophobic comments with Barack Obama, and then years later as a Presidential candidate with disgusting rhetoric about immigrants in general, then his xenophobic comments and actions towards Muslims was over the top racist. He's talking about a specific action, Erik. Do you always have to go to the trolling card? Sheesh. You must like having certain people walk on eggshells. Whether he's right or wrong, he's not being disrespectful. People may be wrong in their assumptions, but it doesn't mean they're trolling. Do you want this forum to be completely one sided and not hear others views. Tone down the trolling threats. You're reaching here, big time. Not only are you out of your depth here, the OP is ignoring history. The first case of COVID in the United States wasn't presented until January of 2020. The xenophobic comments Pelosi originally called out were here: Maybe, just maybe....research what you're talking about before you jump to the defense of people who are clearly wrong.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 25, 2024 12:04:01 GMT -8
He's talking about a specific action, Erik. Do you always have to go to the trolling card? Sheesh. You must like having certain people walk on eggshells. Whether he's right or wrong, he's not being disrespectful. People may be wrong in their assumptions, but it doesn't mean they're trolling. Do you want this forum to be completely one sided and not hear others views. Tone down the trolling threats. You're reaching here, big time. No, he isn't. Insinuating that the xenophobia started with Democrats in 2019 is false. It's not even debatable, actually. Erik is correct. I don't understand how you can't realize that having an opposing view IN GOOD FAITH is 100% fine. It's the obvious mistruths and false representations and claims that rise to the level of what the OP is doing. It's bad faith. You're the one reaching. That's not the post I'm talking about. I'm talking about the one concerning Pelosi, only. That's the way he feels.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 25, 2024 12:04:52 GMT -8
He's talking about a specific action, Erik. Do you always have to go to the trolling card? Sheesh. You must like having certain people walk on eggshells. Whether he's right or wrong, he's not being disrespectful. People may be wrong in their assumptions, but it doesn't mean they're trolling. Do you want this forum to be completely one sided and not hear others views. Tone down the trolling threats. You're reaching here, big time. Not only are you out of your depth here, the OP isn't even referencing the correct event. The first case of COVID in the United States wasn't presented until January of 2020. The xenophobic comments the OP is referring to were Trump’s tweets targeting women of color in Congress. Here's his exact tweet: Maybe, just maybe....research what you're talking about before you jump to the defense of people who are clearly wrong. No, you're jumping to conclusions. Take a breath. I was talking about a different post.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 25, 2024 12:05:24 GMT -8
No, he isn't. Insinuating that the xenophobia started with Democrats in 2019 is false. It's not even debatable, actually. Erik is correct. I don't understand how you can't realize that having an opposing view IN GOOD FAITH is 100% fine. It's the obvious mistruths and false representations and claims that rise to the level of what the OP is doing. It's bad faith. You're the one reaching. That's not the post I'm talking about. I'm talking about the one concerning Pelosi, only. That's the way he feels. It's the same post.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 25, 2024 12:05:51 GMT -8
Not only are you out of your depth here, the OP isn't even referencing the correct event. The first case of COVID in the United States wasn't presented until January of 2020. The xenophobic comments the OP is referring to were Trump’s tweets targeting women of color in Congress. Here's his exact tweet: Maybe, just maybe....research what you're talking about before you jump to the defense of people who are clearly wrong. No, you're jumping to conclusions. Take a breath. I was talking about a different post. It's the same post. Stop. Someone's feelings aren't relevant. This isn't a blog, it's a message board.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 25, 2024 12:13:13 GMT -8
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 25, 2024 12:16:03 GMT -8
Hate crimes against Asians, which had been very low in numbers, skyrocketed after Trump started calling it the China Virus or the Asian virus. Asian Americans paid the price for his racism and hatred.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Sept 25, 2024 12:48:57 GMT -8
He's talking about a specific action, Erik. Do you always have to go to the trolling card? Sheesh. You must like having certain people walk on eggshells. Whether he's right or wrong, he's not being disrespectful. People may be wrong in their assumptions, but it doesn't mean they're trolling. Do you want this forum to be completely one sided and not hear others views. Tone down the trolling threats. You're reaching here, big time. He's presenting lies, either intentionally or through ignorance. I find it hard to believe anyone posting on a political forum, claiming to be as knowledgeable and well informed as he claims could be that ignorant. So then we're back to posting disingenuous comments in bad faith. AKA: trolling. Eric, I make no claims to being an authority in politics or history. I have no problem with you calling me a troll or stupid. There is a lot to learn about why things are happening around the world, and realize it is very complicated to be informed and connect the dots.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 25, 2024 12:51:46 GMT -8
He's presenting lies, either intentionally or through ignorance. I find it hard to believe anyone posting on a political forum, claiming to be as knowledgeable and well informed as he claims could be that ignorant. So then we're back to posting disingenuous comments in bad faith. AKA: trolling. Eric, I make no claims to being an authority in politics or history. I have no problem with you calling me a troll or stupid. There is a lot to learn about why things are happening around the world, and realize it is very complicated to be informed and connect the dots. You claimed previously you didn't know who organized January 6th.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 25, 2024 13:16:52 GMT -8
He's presenting lies, either intentionally or through ignorance. I find it hard to believe anyone posting on a political forum, claiming to be as knowledgeable and well informed as he claims could be that ignorant. So then we're back to posting disingenuous comments in bad faith. AKA: trolling. Eric, I make no claims to being an authority in politics or history. I have no problem with you calling me a troll or stupid. There is a lot to learn about why things are happening around the world, and realize it is very complicated to be informed and connect the dots. I didn't say you were stupid. But you have presented claims several times in an authoritative manner that invites criticism when it's factually incorrect. In fact, most of the, "Facts," you have presented lately have been inaccurate. Kind of makes you think that if your facts are inaccurate then maybe your political views are based on bad info.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Sept 25, 2024 13:34:47 GMT -8
Eric, I make no claims to being an authority in politics or history. I have no problem with you calling me a troll or stupid. There is a lot to learn about why things are happening around the world, and realize it is very complicated to be informed and connect the dots. You claimed previously you didn't know who organized January 6th. Since when not is not knowing everything a problem here? When I served on the Federal Grand Jury and heard cases presented for indictment from FBI, Secrete Service, and other agencies. It was eye opening after an indictment what was published in the news paper for public to read. It was always so different from the facts of the cases. Just last week there was an interview with Hillary Clinton about some protests, she responded with "I don't know who is funding them" I'm not trying to be some tin foil hat conspiracy theorist here. I just take most information as being fed to the people for an agenda and try to look at a few levels to form my own conclusion. Even Nancy Pelosi is on video taking responsibility for the event. One thing for sure is by the by the end of 2025, 93% of everything you search on the internet will be AI generated....crazy!
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 25, 2024 13:56:05 GMT -8
You claimed previously you didn't know who organized January 6th. Since when not is not knowing everything a problem here? When I served on the Federal Grand Jury and heard cases presented for indictment from FBI, Secrete Service, and other agencies. It was eye opening after an indictment what was published in the news paper for public to read. It was always so different from the facts of the cases. Just last week there was an interview with Hillary Clinton about some protests, she responded with "I don't know who is funding them" I'm not trying to be some tin foil hat conspiracy theorist here. I just take most information as being fed to the people for an agenda and try to look at a few levels to form my own conclusion. Even Nancy Pelosi is on video taking responsibility for the event. One thing for sure is by the by the end of 2025, 93% of everything you search on the internet will be AI generated....crazy! Not knowing something that has been publicized for years to make apologies for a candidate is disturbing. Unless you're living under a rock, we've had hundreds, if not thousands of adjudicated cases relating to the events of January 6th. We know, based on those cases, as well as findings of the committee, exactly what happened that day. You're not here to be a tinfoil hat person, yet in the same breath you're propping up propaganda. It makes it easy to know where you're consuming news from and your real agenda. Ignorance isn't an excuse.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Sept 25, 2024 14:15:44 GMT -8
Since when not is not knowing everything a problem here? When I served on the Federal Grand Jury and heard cases presented for indictment from FBI, Secrete Service, and other agencies. It was eye opening after an indictment what was published in the news paper for public to read. It was always so different from the facts of the cases. Just last week there was an interview with Hillary Clinton about some protests, she responded with "I don't know who is funding them" I'm not trying to be some tin foil hat conspiracy theorist here. I just take most information as being fed to the people for an agenda and try to look at a few levels to form my own conclusion. Even Nancy Pelosi is on video taking responsibility for the event. One thing for sure is by the by the end of 2025, 93% of everything you search on the internet will be AI generated....crazy! Not knowing something that has been publicized for years to make apologies for a candidate is disturbing. Unless you're living under a rock, we've had hundreds, if not thousands of adjudicated cases relating to the events of January 6th. We know, based on those cases, as well as findings of the committee, exactly what happened that day. You're not here to be a tinfoil hat person, yet in the same breath you're propping up propaganda. It makes it easy to know where you're consuming news from and your real agenda. Ignorance isn't an excuse. Most stories are kept simple for the masses to understand. Few are able to look at many sources due to researching incongruent information. Why do you always resort to name calling. One thing for sure is that there is nothing I can say that will change your perspective on anything. That is fine because that is not my objective. It is best to realize you know nothing and don't get hung up about it. Not sure if you realize that when a person is attacked by someone that says "you don't know that?" is a tactic of a narcissist. Not a good way to be kind.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 25, 2024 16:26:06 GMT -8
Not knowing something that has been publicized for years to make apologies for a candidate is disturbing. Unless you're living under a rock, we've had hundreds, if not thousands of adjudicated cases relating to the events of January 6th. We know, based on those cases, as well as findings of the committee, exactly what happened that day. You're not here to be a tinfoil hat person, yet in the same breath you're propping up propaganda. It makes it easy to know where you're consuming news from and your real agenda. Ignorance isn't an excuse. Most stories are kept simple for the masses to understand. Few are able to look at many sources due to researching incongruent information. Why do you always resort to name calling. One thing for sure is that there is nothing I can say that will change your perspective on anything. That is fine because that is not my objective. It is best to realize you know nothing and don't get hung up about it. Not sure if you realize that when a person is attacked by someone that says "you don't know that?" is a tactic of a narcissist. Not a good way to be kind. I don't agree with that at all. The truth is always to your benefit and that could easily change minds. It's not best to remain uninformed.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 25, 2024 19:07:09 GMT -8
And the xenophobia continues.
Clay Higgins deleted the tweet...but the Internet is forever.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Sept 25, 2024 20:55:03 GMT -8
Most stories are kept simple for the masses to understand. Few are able to look at many sources due to researching incongruent information. Why do you always resort to name calling. One thing for sure is that there is nothing I can say that will change your perspective on anything. That is fine because that is not my objective. It is best to realize you know nothing and don't get hung up about it. Not sure if you realize that when a person is attacked by someone that says "you don't know that?" is a tactic of a narcissist. Not a good way to be kind. I don't agree with that at all. The truth is always to your benefit and that could easily change minds. It's not best to remain uninformed. Its your right to not agree, just as it is my right to form my own conclusions that you might not agree with. We both might be right in our own mind.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Sept 25, 2024 20:59:31 GMT -8
It was a crazy day for Harris. She announced in a speech that she is now a Capitalist!
What is next. Will she adopt Project 2025 to court the Religious Right to get their votes?
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