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Post by aztecryan on Jul 19, 2024 20:17:03 GMT -8
You want to address the post you ignored or what... Does one have to comment on every post? Can one not just read it and move on? That is usually what I do in this thread. Seems a little disingenuous with the rofl's when what I said was 100% true. The reality is that huge amounts of money are being funneled both into the Super PAC's (Elon at $45M per month, for example) and being withheld from Dem members who are backing Biden. It makes those folks less notable and the news of their withdrawal from Biden support not even really newsworthy.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 19, 2024 20:19:48 GMT -8
Does one have to comment on every post? Can one not just read it and move on? That is usually what I do in this thread. Seems a little disingenuous with the rofl's when what I said was 100% true. The reality is that huge amounts of money are being funneled both into the Super PAC's (Elon at $45M per month, for example) and being withheld from Dem members who are backing Biden. It makes those folks less notable and the news of their withdrawal from Biden support not even really newsworthy. ![:rotfl](//storage.proboards.com/2927646/images/X_85tWleU_jbe4rBRRQN.gif) One can read comments without constantly responding. Well, at least some can.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 19, 2024 20:39:43 GMT -8
Seems a little disingenuous with the rofl's when what I said was 100% true. The reality is that huge amounts of money are being funneled both into the Super PAC's (Elon at $45M per month, for example) and being withheld from Dem members who are backing Biden. It makes those folks less notable and the news of their withdrawal from Biden support not even really newsworthy. ![:rotfl](//storage.proboards.com/2927646/images/X_85tWleU_jbe4rBRRQN.gif) One can read comments without constantly responding. Well, at least some can. When it directly refutes what you said, I would understand the desire to pass by it. But I'd rather be taken seriously and would do the same in return. Should be a fascinating few weeks in front of us.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 19, 2024 20:51:13 GMT -8
![:rotfl](//storage.proboards.com/2927646/images/X_85tWleU_jbe4rBRRQN.gif) One can read comments without constantly responding. Well, at least some can. When it directly refutes what you said, I would understand the desire to pass by it. But I'd rather be taken seriously and would do the same in return. Should be a fascinating few weeks in front of us. Trust me, I do take you seriously. We've had enough conversations in other forums. We don't agree politically, but I don't feel the need to respond to every single post. I used to try and not respond on this forum, and I'm going to go back to picking and choosing my responses a bit more selectively. Reading is fun--but not necessarily an immediate response to something I may not agree with.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 19, 2024 20:57:37 GMT -8
Debating on who's more physically fit between two geriatrics. How did we get here? Because establishment politics don't care who is nominated, only that they serve at the feet of those who want to retain their power. But acting like Trump is physically fit when he wears lifts in his shoes and would qualify as morbidly obese is peak comedy. He's not fit, but he is more fit then Biden, which granted isn't saying much.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 19, 2024 21:07:29 GMT -8
Because establishment politics don't care who is nominated, only that they serve at the feet of those who want to retain their power. But acting like Trump is physically fit when he wears lifts in his shoes and would qualify as morbidly obese is peak comedy. He's not fit, but he is more fit then Biden, which granted isn't saying much. Objectively false. We're talking about physical fitness here, not the ability to talk about Hannibal Lecter and sharks.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 19, 2024 21:08:14 GMT -8
Thankfully, race isn't involved. Oh, wait, this is the Democrats we are talking about, so race can't be an issue, right? RIGHT?? And...these people--whatever race they are--don't care about Biden, as much as they care about them losing their jobs come this November. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Warns Anti-Biden Democrats About What Comes Next if They Succeed"Ocasio-Cortez also highlighted the racial, ethnic and class divisions that appear to have formed between the majority of those pining to blow up the ticket — led mostly by white Democrats and media pundits — and those elected officials who feel they and their constituents have too much at stake to upend the process at this point and so are willing to do the work to re-elect Biden-Harris." "Earlier this week, I noted similar criticism voiced in a letter from the voter advocacy group Black Voters Matter that denounced some Democrats’ haphazard effort to overrule primary voters, oust Biden and potentially leapfrog Harris as the obvious second-in-line to be the party’s nominee. Part of that criticism stemmed from the fact that mobilizing Biden-Harris voters to cast a ballot for an entirely new set of nominees would most likely prove difficult. And the criticism didn’t end there. In fact, hours before Ocasio-Cortez's post to Instagram on Thursday, more than 1,400 Black women who are activists signed a separate letter calling out Democrats who are seeking to push Biden out and install someone other than Harris atop the ticket. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-warns-anti-biden-democrats-about-what-comes-next-if-they-succeed/ar-BB1qiyvf?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=b651efa2acf648d68e4d11e6c6b54d38&ei=15As I have said...this election is between white supremacy and democracy...the GOP has chosen whiteness...now the Dems have to choose...Black/Hispanics/Asians and progressive whites will act accordingly...in their best interests...a Dem all-white ticket doesn't/hasn't won...only a diverse one..... Oh you have got to be kidding me. Are you really going to sit here and act like the Biden-Harris ticket stands up for the rights of the oppressed? Do you not see what is going on in Gaza? Furthermore, what do you mean when you say 'leapfrog Harris'? Why does the Democratic party insist that the vice president of the last Democratic president be the next Democratic nominee? The delegates can vote for whoever they want. But it is ridiculous for you to insinuate that Harris's race matters at all in this. Look at the number of Palestinians that Biden and Harris's administration have killed. How much blood is on their hands? There is a reason why Cornell West has been campaigning so hard against Biden. Biden's foreign policy in Gaza is immoral and wrong. So for you to sit here and act like there is some more high ground that Harris holds and being bestowed the presidency because she is the VP is ridiculous quite frankly. I don't care about her skin color - I care about the fact that her and Biden have been abetting a genocide in Gaza. I don't want her as the VP. She doesn't unite the party. If she has done what she has done in Gaza, how can you say that she will stand up for the rights of minorities in America? Just because of her skin color?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 19, 2024 21:09:41 GMT -8
When it directly refutes what you said, I would understand the desire to pass by it. But I'd rather be taken seriously and would do the same in return. Should be a fascinating few weeks in front of us. Trust me, I do take you seriously. We've had enough conversations in other forums. We don't agree politically, but I don't feel the need to respond to every single post. I used to try and not respond on this forum, and I'm going to go back to picking and choosing my responses a bit more selectively. Reading is fun--but not necessarily an immediate response to something I may not agree with. No problem.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 19, 2024 21:10:14 GMT -8
He's not fit, but he is more fit then Biden, which granted isn't saying much. Objectively false. We're talking about physical fitness here, not the ability to talk about Hannibal Lecter and sharks. It doesn't matter ultimately, because he's going to step down. Scoreboard.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 19, 2024 21:11:27 GMT -8
One thing I find pretty interesting here is the former 538 (once led by Nate Silver) is now the only real model showing Biden winning the EC. But Nate Silver was hired by PolyMarket, another modeling entity, which, coincidentally, is owned by megadonor Peter Thiel, who bankrolled J.D. Vance.
Tangled webs...
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 19, 2024 21:12:39 GMT -8
Objectively false. We're talking about physical fitness here, not the ability to talk about Hannibal Lecter and sharks. It doesn't matter ultimately, because he's going to step down. Scoreboard. Not so sure about that one. And that doesn't really mean what you think it means...in the slightest, really. Political pressure doesn't equal fitness or competency. The Dems want to eat their own and the Republicans don't care enough to nominate someone who isn't a cancer.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 19, 2024 22:18:35 GMT -8
It doesn't matter ultimately, because he's going to step down. Scoreboard. Not so sure about that one. And that doesn't really mean what you think it means...in the slightest, really. Political pressure doesn't equal fitness or competency. The Dems want to eat their own and the Republicans don't care enough to nominate someone who isn't a cancer. We argued months ago about Biden, whether he was fit to run, would he win the nomination... He hasn't stepped down, but when he does... scoreboard. I will have been proven right.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 19, 2024 22:34:07 GMT -8
Not so sure about that one. And that doesn't really mean what you think it means...in the slightest, really. Political pressure doesn't equal fitness or competency. The Dems want to eat their own and the Republicans don't care enough to nominate someone who isn't a cancer. We argued months ago about Biden, whether he was fit to run, would he win the nomination... He hasn't stepped down, but when he does... scoreboard. I will have been proven right. Those two concepts diverge.
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jul 19, 2024 22:59:45 GMT -8
Biden needs to step down. The 6/27 debate was unacceptable.
We have a choice: a demented or at least too old (for him) incumbent or an insane challenger.
One of the parties needs to step up with someone else. Republicans aren't doing that. They fear Trump. (wimps)
Ball's in the Democrat party's court.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jul 20, 2024 15:07:40 GMT -8
Shark Boy isn't any more mentally fit than President Biden. He's more physically fit, but when he goes off script he sounds like a rambling old man who's in the early stages of Alzheimers. He says an awful lot of stuff that is just barely this side of word salad. Biden sounds more coherent than Trump when Trump goes off script and ad libs. He's definitely not more physically fit...on any planet. He's "6'3" and "215" pounds. Lete's be real, though, he is stronger, physically. He doesn't walk as tentatively as Biden does, and his voice is much stronger as well. He has more energy. Mentally, though, he's a mess. Trump is actually showing more signs of mental decline than Biden is.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 20, 2024 15:42:42 GMT -8
He's definitely not more physically fit...on any planet. He's "6'3" and "215" pounds. Lete's be real, though, he is stronger, physically. He doesn't walk as tentatively as Biden does, and his voice is much stronger as well. He has more energy. Mentally, though, he's a mess. Trump is actually showing more signs of mental decline than Biden is. Besides what the Hur deposition showed, he references President Putin instead of Zelenski, Vice President Trump instead of Harris, We beat Medicare instead of Covid, saying the aside [pause] outloud instead of pausing, not being able to finish a sentence or thought and resorting to the phrase "anyway" 9 times in a recent presser and on and on yet you think Trump is showing worse signs of cognitive decline? Whatever ![:rolleyes](//storage.proboards.com/2927646/images/4N3y21LHkMeUS7tigeMu.gif) There a difference between digressing and getting lost.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 20, 2024 15:51:06 GMT -8
He's definitely not more physically fit...on any planet. He's "6'3" and "215" pounds. Lete's be real, though, he is stronger, physically. He doesn't walk as tentatively as Biden does, and his voice is much stronger as well. He has more energy. Mentally, though, he's a mess. Trump is actually showing more signs of mental decline than Biden is. Biden has spinal arthritis. Biden is soft-spoken. Neither one of things indicate "physical fitness" at all, honestly. Trump is 78 and majors in Big Macs.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 20, 2024 15:53:09 GMT -8
Lete's be real, though, he is stronger, physically. He doesn't walk as tentatively as Biden does, and his voice is much stronger as well. He has more energy. Mentally, though, he's a mess. Trump is actually showing more signs of mental decline than Biden is. Besides what the Hur deposition showed, he references President Putin instead of Zelenski, Vice President Trump instead of Harris, We beat Medicare instead of Covid, saying the aside [pause] outloud instead of pausing, not being able to finish a sentence or thought and resorting to the phrase "anyway" 9 times in a recent presser and on and on yet you think Trump is showing worse signs of cognitive decline? Whatever ![:rolleyes](//storage.proboards.com/2927646/images/4N3y21LHkMeUS7tigeMu.gif) There a difference between digressing and getting lost. There are dozens of clips of Trump misidentifying people, mispronouncing words, losing train of thought, completely falling off the rails without a teleprompter. He just did it a few days ago. Hannibal Lecter?
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jul 20, 2024 22:58:37 GMT -8
Lete's be real, though, he is stronger, physically. He doesn't walk as tentatively as Biden does, and his voice is much stronger as well. He has more energy. Mentally, though, he's a mess. Trump is actually showing more signs of mental decline than Biden is. Besides what the Hur deposition showed, he references President Putin instead of Zelenski, Vice President Trump instead of Harris, We beat Medicare instead of Covid, saying the aside [pause] outloud instead of pausing, not being able to finish a sentence or thought and resorting to the phrase "anyway" 9 times in a recent presser and on and on yet you think Trump is showing worse signs of cognitive decline? Whatever ![:rolleyes](//storage.proboards.com/2927646/images/4N3y21LHkMeUS7tigeMu.gif) There a difference between digressing and getting lost. I do that all the time, and have all my life. I call my daughter by my wife's name when we're arguing or I'll call my wife my daughter's name - or, on rare occasion where my daughter is acting like my brother it will trigger a flashback and I'll call her HIS name. I know who I'm talking to and what I'm talking about. I'm just worked up in the moment and my brain picks out the wrong name or the wrong word. It happens to most people. To make a big deal out of Biden doing it is disingenuous. It's dishonest and undercuts your whole argument.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jul 20, 2024 23:00:39 GMT -8
Besides what the Hur deposition showed, he references President Putin instead of Zelenski, Vice President Trump instead of Harris, We beat Medicare instead of Covid, saying the aside [pause] outloud instead of pausing, not being able to finish a sentence or thought and resorting to the phrase "anyway" 9 times in a recent presser and on and on yet you think Trump is showing worse signs of cognitive decline? Whatever ![:rolleyes](//storage.proboards.com/2927646/images/4N3y21LHkMeUS7tigeMu.gif) There a difference between digressing and getting lost. There are dozens of clips of Trump misidentifying people, mispronouncing words, losing train of thought, completely falling off the rails without a teleprompter. He just did it a few days ago. Hannibal Lecter? Too bad his shark speech isn't on video (if it is, I haven't seen it). The transcript of that thing makes Trump sound completely out of his mind with dementia. But the cult members cover their eyes and ears when he does that. They don't want to know about it.
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