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Post by aztecryan on Sept 9, 2024 21:49:33 GMT -8
So this has turned into a whole lot of silence. Barely even talked about, even though it happened less than two months ago. Very, very strange. Moving on. Biden dropping out was also an unprecedented event that happened shortly after. That took focus away. Also, there's the fact that more than 50 percent of the population that doesn't want to give him Press. There's a very important election coming up. Back to Business. A presidential assassination attempt isn't just something you "move on" from. And I like how you just make up numbers with no real proof of anything. Something clearly isn't right with the situation and it deserves to be talked about until we know the truth.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 9, 2024 23:11:32 GMT -8
Moving on. Biden dropping out was also an unprecedented event that happened shortly after. That took focus away. Also, there's the fact that more than 50 percent of the population that doesn't want to give him Press. There's a very important election coming up. Back to Business. A presidential assassination attempt isn't just something you "move on" from. And I like how you just make up numbers with no real proof of anything. Something clearly isn't right with the situation and it deserves to be talked about until we know the truth. I didn't make up any numbers. More than 50 percent of Americans do not like Trump, or will not vote for him. He will lose the General Election, most likely. Of course they need to move on for now. The election is around the corner, and for other reasons I stated. If there was some bombshell story out there about the Assassination Attempt we most likely would have heard about it before the election. Maybe we will. Either side would use it against the other. This is the opportune time to bring it out.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 10, 2024 9:10:30 GMT -8
A presidential assassination attempt isn't just something you "move on" from. And I like how you just make up numbers with no real proof of anything. Something clearly isn't right with the situation and it deserves to be talked about until we know the truth. I didn't make up any numbers. More than 50 percent of Americans do not like Trump, or will not vote for him. He will lose the General Election, most likely. Of course they need to move on for now. The election is around the corner, and for other reasons I stated. If there was some bombshell story out there about the Assassination Attempt we most likely would have heard about it before the election. Maybe we will. Either side would use it against the other. This is the opportune time to bring it out. More than 50% of Americans is a false number, John. Less than half the country's population votes. So, yes, it's a made up number. He will lose the general election because Republicans always lose the general election, there are far more Democrat voters than Republican voters. The last Republican to win the popular vote was George W. Bush 20 years ago. Trump was never winning the popular vote. So "we need to move on" yet now is the "opportune time to bring it up?" I'm talking about the coverage of the event. We never heard from witnesses. We never heard from the doctor who treated Trump. We haven't heard anything about a motive for the shooter. We haven't heard literally anything. Less than two months after being shot, Trump shows no visible damage. This is the least talked about assassination attempt we've seen. It just adds more fuel to the fire that something nefarious is going on.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 10, 2024 9:25:58 GMT -8
I didn't make up any numbers. More than 50 percent of Americans do not like Trump, or will not vote for him. He will lose the General Election, most likely. Of course they need to move on for now. The election is around the corner, and for other reasons I stated. If there was some bombshell story out there about the Assassination Attempt we most likely would have heard about it before the election. Maybe we will. Either side would use it against the other. This is the opportune time to bring it out. More than 50% of Americans is a false number, John. Less than half the country's population votes. So, yes, it's a made up number. He will lose the general election because Republicans always lose the general election, there are far more Democrat voters than Republican voters. The last Republican to win the popular vote was George W. Bush 20 years ago. Trump was never winning the popular vote. So "we need to move on" yet now is the "opportune time to bring it up?" I'm talking about the coverage of the event. We never heard from witnesses. We never heard from the doctor who treated Trump. We haven't heard anything about a motive for the shooter. We haven't heard literally anything. Less than two months after being shot, Trump shows no visible damage. This is the least talked about assassination attempt we've seen. It just adds more fuel to the fire that something nefarious is going on. To clarify, I meant more than 50 percent of voters, and I meant IF there's a bombshell report about it then now is the opportune time to disclose it you would think. That's fair when you say that it's odd that we haven't heard more about it in a couple of months. I'll also say that Trump's lucky he's not showing negative signs of the shooting. He luckily only got grazed in the ear, although I'm sure he has PTSD from it. I think it's hard to pinpoint the motive for the shooting since it seems as though he researched targets from both sides, Dem/Rep. It can also be difficult to understand the situation when the person is obvious nut case. It can just simply come down to him wanting notoriety. The biggest issue is the how badly the SS failed. Can't talk about that enough.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 10, 2024 9:46:25 GMT -8
More than 50% of Americans is a false number, John. Less than half the country's population votes. So, yes, it's a made up number. He will lose the general election because Republicans always lose the general election, there are far more Democrat voters than Republican voters. The last Republican to win the popular vote was George W. Bush 20 years ago. Trump was never winning the popular vote. So "we need to move on" yet now is the "opportune time to bring it up?" I'm talking about the coverage of the event. We never heard from witnesses. We never heard from the doctor who treated Trump. We haven't heard anything about a motive for the shooter. We haven't heard literally anything. Less than two months after being shot, Trump shows no visible damage. This is the least talked about assassination attempt we've seen. It just adds more fuel to the fire that something nefarious is going on. To clarify, I meant more than 50 percent of voters, and I meant IF there's a bombshell report about it then now is the opportune time to disclose it you would think. That's fair when you say that it's odd that we haven't heard more about it in a couple of months. I'll also say that Trump's lucky he's not showing negative signs of the shooting. He luckily only got grazed in the ear, although I'm sure he has PTSD from it. I think it's hard to pinpoint the motive for the shooting since it seems as though he researched targets from both sides, Dem/Rep. It can also be difficult to understand the situation when the person is obvious nut case. It can just simply come down to him wanting notoriety. The biggest issue is the how badly the SS failed. Can't talk about that enough. No, the biggest issue is the lack of media coverage and answers we have, or lack thereof. The entire thing has been swept under the rug in bizarre fashion.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 10, 2024 11:19:00 GMT -8
To clarify, I meant more than 50 percent of voters, and I meant IF there's a bombshell report about it then now is the opportune time to disclose it you would think. That's fair when you say that it's odd that we haven't heard more about it in a couple of months. I'll also say that Trump's lucky he's not showing negative signs of the shooting. He luckily only got grazed in the ear, although I'm sure he has PTSD from it. I think it's hard to pinpoint the motive for the shooting since it seems as though he researched targets from both sides, Dem/Rep. It can also be difficult to understand the situation when the person is obvious nut case. It can just simply come down to him wanting notoriety. The biggest issue is the how badly the SS failed. Can't talk about that enough. No, the biggest issue is the lack of media coverage and answers we have, or lack thereof. The entire thing has been swept under the rug in bizarre fashion. Nope. Not even close, unless you're counting the most important question of them all which is how it even happened. A humans life is more important than the questions you want answered after the fact.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 10, 2024 12:12:14 GMT -8
No, the biggest issue is the lack of media coverage and answers we have, or lack thereof. The entire thing has been swept under the rug in bizarre fashion. Nope. Not even close, unless you're counting the most important question of them all which is how it even happened. A humans life is more important than the questions you want answered after the fact. I mean....no. That asssertion is laughable. We have a presidential candidate who was apparently nearly assassinated less than two months ago. We heard from...one witness on the scene? We have no medical report. We have no background on the supposed shooter. Nothing from his family. How it happened is easy and has already been answered. This is the least talked about assassination attempt....ever? We need answers.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 10, 2024 12:20:06 GMT -8
Nope. Not even close, unless you're counting the most important question of them all which is how it even happened. A humans life is more important than the questions you want answered after the fact. I mean....no. That asssertion is laughable. We have a presidential candidate who was apparently nearly assassinated less than two months ago. We heard from...one witness on the scene? We have no medical report. We have no background on the supposed shooter. Nothing from his family. How it happened is easy and has already been answered. This is the least talked about assassination attempt....ever? We need answers. You can go ahead and choose to laugh about a humans life, and how it could have been prevented, but I don't go there. I do/don't understand you have the lack of interest to find that out, though, unfortunately. There needs to be more answers, and accountability for it, that's for sure.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Sept 10, 2024 12:37:48 GMT -8
Nope. Not even close, unless you're counting the most important question of them all which is how it even happened. A humans life is more important than the questions you want answered after the fact. I mean....no. That asssertion is laughable. We have a presidential candidate who was apparently nearly assassinated less than two months ago. We heard from...one witness on the scene? We have no medical report. We have no background on the supposed shooter. Nothing from his family. How it happened is easy and has already been answered. This is the least talked about assassination attempt....ever? We need answers. I gave you the answers...and it's playing out that way....
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 10, 2024 13:09:20 GMT -8
I mean....no. That asssertion is laughable. We have a presidential candidate who was apparently nearly assassinated less than two months ago. We heard from...one witness on the scene? We have no medical report. We have no background on the supposed shooter. Nothing from his family. How it happened is easy and has already been answered. This is the least talked about assassination attempt....ever? We need answers. I gave you the answers...and it's playing out that way.... Proof is what I'm seeking.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 10, 2024 13:11:05 GMT -8
I mean....no. That asssertion is laughable. We have a presidential candidate who was apparently nearly assassinated less than two months ago. We heard from...one witness on the scene? We have no medical report. We have no background on the supposed shooter. Nothing from his family. How it happened is easy and has already been answered. This is the least talked about assassination attempt....ever? We need answers. You can go ahead and choose to laugh about a humans life, and how it could have been prevented, but I don't go there. I do/don't understand you have the lack of interest to find that out, though, unfortunately. There needs to be more answers, and accountability for it, that's for sure. What life are you talking about? I'm only referring to Trump here. We already know the reasons of how it happened. You weren't paying attention, apparently. What we don't know is the WHY and exactly WHAT happened.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 10, 2024 13:25:27 GMT -8
You can go ahead and choose to laugh about a humans life, and how it could have been prevented, but I don't go there. I do/don't understand you have the lack of interest to find that out, though, unfortunately. There needs to be more answers, and accountability for it, that's for sure. What life are you talking about? I'm only referring to Trump here. We already know the reasons of how it happened. You weren't paying attention, apparently. What we don't know is the WHY and exactly WHAT happened. I'm talking about Trump, as well. The SS dropped the ball and an assassin was able to get close proximity to an ex president and was able to take a shot at him. Are you paying attention? We don't have all the answers as to why, and how, it exactly happened and there should be more accountability taken. That's absolutely the most important issue/questions. It never should have gotten to the point where you're asking the questions that you have, for starters.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 10, 2024 13:26:22 GMT -8
I gave you the answers...and it's playing out that way.... Proof is what I'm seeking. Proof of what? Are you still debating whether or not he was grazed by a bullet?
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 10, 2024 13:42:16 GMT -8
What life are you talking about? I'm only referring to Trump here. We already know the reasons of how it happened. You weren't paying attention, apparently. What we don't know is the WHY and exactly WHAT happened. I'm talking about Trump, as well. The SS dropped the ball and an assassin was able to get close proximity to an ex president and was able to take a shot at him. Are you paying attention? We don't have all the answers as to why, and how, it exactly happened and there should be more accountability taken. That's absolutely the most important issue/questions. It never should have gotten to the point where you're asking the questions that you have, for starters. More accountability? The head of the Secret Service resigned. Her deputy will also resign, it looks like, if the current pressure in Congress continues. Agents on the detail will never serve in that capacity again. As far as government goes, that is accountability. I'm not sure what else you can want, there's only so much that can be done after the fact. You're making a ton of assumptions based on information we don't really have, which is my point. We have zero coverage of this going on right now. I want to know if the mental state of a current presidential candidate is impaired. I want to know the background of what actually transpired. We don't, though...and that's a problem.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 10, 2024 13:52:21 GMT -8
I'm talking about Trump, as well. The SS dropped the ball and an assassin was able to get close proximity to an ex president and was able to take a shot at him. Are you paying attention? We don't have all the answers as to why, and how, it exactly happened and there should be more accountability taken. That's absolutely the most important issue/questions. It never should have gotten to the point where you're asking the questions that you have, for starters. More accountability? The head of the Secret Service resigned. Her deputy will also resign, it looks like, if the current pressure in Congress continues. Agents on the detail will never serve in that capacity again. As far as government goes, that is accountability. I'm not sure what else you can want, there's only so much that can be done after the fact. You're making a ton of assumptions based on information we don't really have, which is my point. We have zero coverage of this going on right now. I want to know if the mental state of a current presidential candidate is impaired. I want to know the background of what actually transpired. We don't, though...and that's a problem. Hey, no problem, you can have your set of what you think are the most important questions, and I can have mine. These are not assumptions. Yeah, more accountability, by the way she was forced to resign, I don't take that as taking accountability so there's that, and there's definitely more questions about how it even got to the point where a person could get on top of a building in the line of sight of an ex president, especially when he was already on the radar. You're making it out as though the case should be closed concerning those issues. Not even close. Like I said, it's no shock that you're focusing elsewhere, but that's your prerogative. "Her Deputy will also resign, it LOOKS LIKE." Hasn't happened.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 10, 2024 14:37:16 GMT -8
More accountability? The head of the Secret Service resigned. Her deputy will also resign, it looks like, if the current pressure in Congress continues. Agents on the detail will never serve in that capacity again. As far as government goes, that is accountability. I'm not sure what else you can want, there's only so much that can be done after the fact. You're making a ton of assumptions based on information we don't really have, which is my point. We have zero coverage of this going on right now. I want to know if the mental state of a current presidential candidate is impaired. I want to know the background of what actually transpired. We don't, though...and that's a problem. Hey, no problem, you can have your set of what you think are the most important questions, and I can have mine. These are not assumptions. Yeah, more accountability, by the way she was forced to resign, I don't take that as taking accountability so there's that, and there's definitely more questions about how it even got to the point where a person could get on top of a building in the line of sight of an ex president, especially when he was already on the radar. You're making it out as though the case should be closed concerning those issues. Not even close. Like I said, it's no shock that you're focusing elsewhere, but that's your prerogative. "Her Deputy will also resign, it LOOKS LIKE." Hasn't happened. They are assumptions, though. They have to be....because we don't know what happened. You're very willing to accept things at face value, I'm not. We don't have the answers that are needed and the ceasing of media coverage is problematic. Trump is the fastest healing 78 year old on the planet, apparently....and crickets. Of course it hasn't happened yet, that's why I said "If the pressure continues." Maybe read the entire thing. There's ongoing circumstances that have been chronicled. www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/usss-assistant-director-encouraged-retire-over-butler-assassination-attempt-trump-source-reveals.ampWhether Cheatle was forced to resign or not is irrelevant...she resigned. You end up in the same exact set of circumstances. You're in the tank for Trump and you refuse to admit it, I don't know why. It's not like you're hiding a secret. Everything in your responses is blatant. We already know the answers to the questions you're asking. There was an entire hearing about it. Multiple hearings, really. You can obsess over the breakdown of Secret Service protocols and the overreliance on the Butler PD. Trump was too cheap to pay his bills to have an indoor venue secured. Plenty of blame to spread around. Really not what is important anymore. You can't pour the water back into the glass. We're in two different libraries here.
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 10, 2024 15:12:20 GMT -8
This whole thing is absurd. What answers do you need Ryan? A bullet got him in the ear, he's fine.
What do you want the media to do, interview the dead shooter? Maybe the media isn't interviewing his family because the family doesn't want that. Maybe the media isn't talking about it more because they don't want a copy-cat attempt to occur (Trump is still alive, after all).
It's so bizarre that you are fixated on this.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 10, 2024 15:24:22 GMT -8
This whole thing is absurd. What answers do you need Ryan? A bullet got him in the ear, he's fine. What do you want the media to do, interview the dead shooter? Maybe the media isn't interviewing his family because the family doesn't want that. Maybe the media isn't talking about it more because they don't want a copy-cat attempt to occur (Trump is still alive, after all). It's so bizarre that you are fixated on this. Lol. Seriously? Please tell me the last presidential assassination attempt that got less coverage than this. Talk about a red herring. Is Trump fine? How would we know? We know nothing. Still. I'm fixated on the bizarre lack of attention it's getting with zero information forthcoming. It's a problem.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 10, 2024 15:35:40 GMT -8
This whole thing is absurd. What answers do you need Ryan? A bullet got him in the ear, he's fine. What do you want the media to do, interview the dead shooter? Maybe the media isn't interviewing his family because the family doesn't want that. Maybe the media isn't talking about it more because they don't want a copy-cat attempt to occur (Trump is still alive, after all). It's so bizarre that you are fixated on this. Lol. Seriously? Please tell me the last presidential assassination attempt that got less coverage than this. Talk about a red herring. Embarrassing. Is Trump fine? How would we know? We know nothing. Still. I'm fixated on the bizarre lack of attention it's getting with zero information forthcoming. It's a problem. Sounds like you're starting to partake the in the conspiracy world. If there's any fraction of an inch opening to get to Trump, you're all over it. Shesht. Line many have said in here, you've got it bad, unfortunately. Don't make things out to be more than they are.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 10, 2024 15:40:14 GMT -8
Lol. Seriously? Please tell me the last presidential assassination attempt that got less coverage than this. Talk about a red herring. Embarrassing. Is Trump fine? How would we know? We know nothing. Still. I'm fixated on the bizarre lack of attention it's getting with zero information forthcoming. It's a problem. Sounds like you're starting to partake the in the conspiracy world. If there's any fraction of an inch opening to get to Trump, you're all over it. Shesht. Line many have said in here, you've got it bad, unfortunately. Yeah, make it about me, surprise. How about an original thought? Oh, nevermind. Forgot who I was talking to. Disregard. (Safety in numbers....yawn.) This has nothing to do with "getting to Trump"....I'm not a shill. Sorry. You are clearly in the tank for Trump, your opinion is meaningless.
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