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Post by aztecryan on Jul 20, 2024 17:51:25 GMT -8
Trump campaign requested more security measures, was denied. www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/07/20/trump-secret-service-security-attempted-assassination/This investigation needs to be absolutely transparent, otherwise conspiracy theories will run amok! Why does this Cheatle hack still have a job? The answer would probably explain why so many Biden policies and actions absolutely suck donkey balls. A flawed political apparatus, no wonder they harvest so many votes, that’s their primary way of staying in power AND the reason the Democrats have kittens every time a Republican proposes any kind of voter ID. I pray this lack of protection wasn’t a Biden directive. Propa...ganda.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 20, 2024 20:36:28 GMT -8
Trump campaign requested more security measures, was denied. www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/07/20/trump-secret-service-security-attempted-assassination/This investigation needs to be absolutely transparent, otherwise conspiracy theories will run amok! Why does this Cheatle hack still have a job? The answer would probably explain why so many Biden policies and actions absolutely suck donkey balls. A flawed political apparatus, no wonder they harvest so many votes, that’s their primary way of staying in power AND the reason the Democrats have kittens every time a Republican proposes any kind of voter ID. I pray this lack of protection wasn’t a Biden directive. Propa...ganda. I thought Trump got more security after the events of last week?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 22, 2024 12:22:30 GMT -8
This is bad, even by the standards you set with never being able to respond to questions. What has anyone said that hasn't been true, beyond what you want to hear? Your criticism makes no sense.
Here is what has been bothering me for some time. I have been afraid that the anti-Trump rhetoric would cause something like this to happen. Do you find that belief unreasonable? I realize that the rhetoric used in political campaigns can sometimes become pretty extreme. That goes back to the 19th Century. But the rhetoric aimed at Trump has been far worse than that aimed at any other presidential candidate in the 18 campaigns I personally witnessed. (That goes back to 1952, by the way.)
I do not respect Donald Trump, period. I've made that clear many times. But he is not Adolf Hitler, which is what some on the left have said. And he is not an existential threat to democracy in this country. To suggest the latter is absurd and ignores the strength of our democratic institutions. No one man is capable of taking over this country as Hitler did to Germany. There is, nevertheless, plenty of reason to not want DJT in the White House again. But one does not have to resort to the language used against the man. Whether the shooter was inspired by anti-Trump rhetoric cannot be proven at this point. To suggest that such a link is unthinkable is foolish.
Here is a link to a thouthful piece of the comparison of Trump to Hitler.
theconversation.com/trump-hitler-comparisons-too-easy-and-ignore-the-murderous-history-92394
AzWmHonest question, honest answer. Is Trump a threat to the security of the United States?
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 22, 2024 15:54:09 GMT -8
Your criticism makes no sense.
Here is what has been bothering me for some time. I have been afraid that the anti-Trump rhetoric would cause something like this to happen. Do you find that belief unreasonable? I realize that the rhetoric used in political campaigns can sometimes become pretty extreme. That goes back to the 19th Century. But the rhetoric aimed at Trump has been far worse than that aimed at any other presidential candidate in the 18 campaigns I personally witnessed. (That goes back to 1952, by the way.)
I do not respect Donald Trump, period. I've made that clear many times. But he is not Adolf Hitler, which is what some on the left have said. And he is not an existential threat to democracy in this country. To suggest the latter is absurd and ignores the strength of our democratic institutions. No one man is capable of taking over this country as Hitler did to Germany. There is, nevertheless, plenty of reason to not want DJT in the White House again. But one does not have to resort to the language used against the man. Whether the shooter was inspired by anti-Trump rhetoric cannot be proven at this point. To suggest that such a link is unthinkable is foolish.
Here is a link to a thouthful piece of the comparison of Trump to Hitler.
theconversation.com/trump-hitler-comparisons-too-easy-and-ignore-the-murderous-history-92394
AzWm Honest question, honest answer. Is Trump a threat to the security of the United States? I bet you agreed with AG Barr and thought him to be reasonable when he agreed Trump lost the 2020 election. Do you agree with him here: "But they demonized him -- called him Adolf Hitler, a racist and a fascist, and so forth it is ridiculous. He is not a threat to democracy they portray." www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/07/14/former_ag_bill_barr_when_someone_is_demonized_to_the_extent_trump_has_been_they_become_a_target.html
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 22, 2024 15:57:51 GMT -8
He's a legitimate threat to democracy in the U.S.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 22, 2024 15:58:26 GMT -8
Even the worst people on the planet find integrity when it's convenient for them to do so. That does not, in any way, dissuade the notion that he's somehow not a threat to national security. This isn't about rhetoric, it's about actions and behavior that actually did take place.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 22, 2024 21:53:09 GMT -8
Even the worst people on the planet find integrity when it's convenient for them to do so. That does not, in any way, dissuade the notion that he's somehow not a threat to national security. This isn't about rhetoric, it's about actions and behavior that actually did take place. Well the purposeful surrender of our Southern border to Mexican Drug cartels by Biden/Harris is a bigger threat to US national security and that is taking place right now and will continue in any future that Harris governs.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 22, 2024 21:57:54 GMT -8
Even the worst people on the planet find integrity when it's convenient for them to do so. That does not, in any way, dissuade the notion that he's somehow not a threat to national security. This isn't about rhetoric, it's about actions and behavior that actually did take place. Well the purposeful surrender of our Southern border to Mexican Drug cartels by Biden/Harris is a bigger threat to US national security and that is taking place right now and will continue in any future that Harris governs. Fictional things aren't a prerequisite. The things above actually happened. New material in 2025, please. We can only blame the brown people for so long.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 22, 2024 22:17:55 GMT -8
Even the worst people on the planet find integrity when it's convenient for them to do so. That does not, in any way, dissuade the notion that he's somehow not a threat to national security. This isn't about rhetoric, it's about actions and behavior that actually did take place. Well the purposeful surrender of our Southern border to Mexican Drug cartels by Biden/Harris is a bigger threat to US national security and that is taking place right now and will continue in any future that Harris governs. Just to put this senseless BS to rest..... The vast majority of fentanyl is trafficked through legal ports of entry by American citizens. It's not close. On no planet is fentanyl coming into the United States in the same stratosphere as hoarding classified intelligence where foreign spies trafficked. The end.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 22, 2024 23:47:16 GMT -8
Well the purposeful surrender of our Southern border to Mexican Drug cartels by Biden/Harris is a bigger threat to US national security and that is taking place right now and will continue in any future that Harris governs. Just to put this senseless BS to rest..... The vast majority of fentanyl is trafficked through legal ports of entry by American citizens. It's not close. On no planet is fentanyl coming into the United States in the same stratosphere as hoarding classified intelligence where foreign spies trafficked. The end. While any death of a human being is obviously horrible, but when the murder comes from an individual who knows that he, or she can come across the border very easily, commit a horrible crime, and simply go right back, is very infuriating, especially for the victims families. It's too easy. They aren't vetted well enough. It's been going on for a long time, but it's much easier right about now.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 23, 2024 5:17:07 GMT -8
Well the purposeful surrender of our Southern border to Mexican Drug cartels by Biden/Harris is a bigger threat to US national security and that is taking place right now and will continue in any future that Harris governs. Just to put this senseless BS to rest..... The vast majority of fentanyl is trafficked through legal ports of entry by American citizens. It's not close. On no planet is fentanyl coming into the United States in the same stratosphere as hoarding classified intelligence where foreign spies trafficked. The end. Fentanyl shipped across the Southern border is mostly made by the Mexican Drug cartels and almost all Fentanyl shipped across the Southern border is their cargo. They are getting the money in the end. And the money the Mexican Drug cartels make on human trafficking and fentanyl dealing improves their ability to continue their crimes. You equate mules to Drug lords and give the Democrats a pass on their complicity in this on going crime wave that includes mass murder by fentanyl poisoning. And with the illegal economic refugees comes the criminal elements of their countries. Gavin empties our prisons because they are costly. You think impoverished countries don't do the same? Not the same stratosphere indeed
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 23, 2024 5:32:23 GMT -8
Just to put this senseless BS to rest..... The vast majority of fentanyl is trafficked through legal ports of entry by American citizens. It's not close. On no planet is fentanyl coming into the United States in the same stratosphere as hoarding classified intelligence where foreign spies trafficked. The end. Fentanyl shipped across the Southern border is mostly made by the Mexican Drug cartels and almost all Fentanyl shipped across the Southern border is their cargo. They are getting the money in the end. And the money the Mexican Drug cartels make on human trafficking and fentanyl dealing improves their ability to continue their crimes. You equate mules to Drug lords and give the Democrats a pass on their complicity in this on going crime wave that includes mass murder by fentanyl poisoning. And with the illegal economic refugees comes the criminal elements of their countries. Gavin empties our prisons because they are costly. You think impoverished countries don't do the same? Not the same stratosphere indeed poor Americans...just can't seem to stop using fentanyl... I don't know anybody taking fentanyl. Why were the American ophiod doctors making so much money in the 90's? same audience, including your hero Limbaugh.
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Post by North County Aztec on Jul 23, 2024 7:11:36 GMT -8
Secret Service Director Cheatle out!!!
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 23, 2024 7:33:38 GMT -8
Secret Service Director Cheatle out!!! Finally!!! It's proper protocol.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 23, 2024 7:37:36 GMT -8
Just to put this senseless BS to rest..... The vast majority of fentanyl is trafficked through legal ports of entry by American citizens. It's not close. On no planet is fentanyl coming into the United States in the same stratosphere as hoarding classified intelligence where foreign spies trafficked. The end. While any death of a human being is obviously horrible, but when the murder comes from an individual who knows that he, or she can come across the border very easily, commit a horrible crime, and simply go right back, is very infuriating, especially for the victims families. It's too easy. They aren't vetted well enough. It's been going on for a long time, but it's much easier right about now. To actually understand this, you'd have to realize where the issues lie. I'm going to go out on a giant limb and say that's probably not happening. Also, we should be worried about our own levels of crime, which happen at a much higher rate. All you're doing is regurgitating propaganda at the expense of dead white people. It's tacky.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 23, 2024 7:38:28 GMT -8
Just to put this senseless BS to rest..... The vast majority of fentanyl is trafficked through legal ports of entry by American citizens. It's not close. On no planet is fentanyl coming into the United States in the same stratosphere as hoarding classified intelligence where foreign spies trafficked. The end. Fentanyl shipped across the Southern border is mostly made by the Mexican Drug cartels and almost all Fentanyl shipped across the Southern border is their cargo. They are getting the money in the end. And the money the Mexican Drug cartels make on human trafficking and fentanyl dealing improves their ability to continue their crimes. You equate mules to Drug lords and give the Democrats a pass on their complicity in this on going crime wave that includes mass murder by fentanyl poisoning. And with the illegal economic refugees comes the criminal elements of their countries. Gavin empties our prisons because they are costly. You think impoverished countries don't do the same? Not the same stratosphere indeed Not even close. Fentanyl deaths actually decreased in 2023 and represent a tiny, tiny fraction of overall deaths in America.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 23, 2024 7:57:41 GMT -8
While any death of a human being is obviously horrible, but when the murder comes from an individual who knows that he, or she can come across the border very easily, commit a horrible crime, and simply go right back, is very infuriating, especially for the victims families. It's too easy. They aren't vetted well enough. It's been going on for a long time, but it's much easier right about now. To actually understand this, you'd have to realize where the issues lie. I'm going to go out on a giant limb and say that's probably not happening. Also, we should be worried about our own levels of crime, which happen at a much higher rate. The better understanding needs to come from you. For just one example, if you're parents who lost a child to an illegal person (I personally know parents that went through this) in this country and that person mocked the system afterwards, you're bitter, to say the very least and it's absolutely unacceptable. It happened in our Country, so yeah we need to concentrate on these crimes, as well, instead of shunning it in the fashion that you are. Tell the parents who have lost family members that we need to concentrate more on our in house crimes. No, we need to concentrate on all of them.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 23, 2024 8:04:27 GMT -8
To actually understand this, you'd have to realize where the issues lie. I'm going to go out on a giant limb and say that's probably not happening. Also, we should be worried about our own levels of crime, which happen at a much higher rate. The better understanding needs to come from you. For just one example, if you're parents who lost a child to an illegal person (I personally know parents that went through this) in this country and that person mocked the system afterwards, you're bitter, to say the very least and it's absolutely unacceptable. It happened in our Country, so yeah we need to concentrate on these crimes, as well, instead of shunning it in the fashion that you are. Tell the parents who have lost family members that we need to concentrate more on our in house crimes. No, we need to concentrate on all of them. Anytime you want to talk about the actual root causes here, I'm in. But pandering to narratives? I'll pass. You're never going to stop bad people from doing bad things. We don't live in a utopia where crime doesn't exist. When you start shedding tears for the murders *here*...I'll actually give you some credit. Somehow, I don't see the pearl clutching happening.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 23, 2024 17:40:44 GMT -8
Just to put this senseless BS to rest..... The vast majority of fentanyl is trafficked through legal ports of entry by American citizens. It's not close. On no planet is fentanyl coming into the United States in the same stratosphere as hoarding classified intelligence where foreign spies trafficked. The end. Fentanyl shipped across the Southern border is mostly made by the Mexican Drug cartels and almost all Fentanyl shipped across the Southern border is their cargo. They are getting the money in the end. And the money the Mexican Drug cartels make on human trafficking and fentanyl dealing improves their ability to continue their crimes. You equate mules to Drug lords and give the Democrats a pass on their complicity in this on going crime wave that includes mass murder by fentanyl poisoning. And with the illegal economic refugees comes the criminal elements of their countries. Gavin empties our prisons because they are costly. You think impoverished countries don't do the same? Not the same stratosphere indeed Fentanyl coming up from Mexico is a huge problem in our country. To minimize it is a disservice to all of the people who died, as well as their loved ones. We need to weaken the Mexican drug lords. But how do we do this when their headquarters are in Mexico? We need to work with the Mexican government on this issue. On the US side of things, we need more vehicle scanning equipment at our border checkpoints. Perhaps we also need to use artificial intelligence software to predict which cars/drivers might be bringing drugs across the border.
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 23, 2024 17:49:32 GMT -8
Fentanyl shipped across the Southern border is mostly made by the Mexican Drug cartels and almost all Fentanyl shipped across the Southern border is their cargo. They are getting the money in the end. And the money the Mexican Drug cartels make on human trafficking and fentanyl dealing improves their ability to continue their crimes. You equate mules to Drug lords and give the Democrats a pass on their complicity in this on going crime wave that includes mass murder by fentanyl poisoning. And with the illegal economic refugees comes the criminal elements of their countries. Gavin empties our prisons because they are costly. You think impoverished countries don't do the same? Not the same stratosphere indeed Fentanyl coming up from Mexico is a huge problem in our country. To minimize it is a disservice to all of the people who died, as well as their loved ones. We need to weaken the Mexican drug lords. But how do we do this when their headquarters are in Mexico? We need to work with the Mexican government on this issue. On the US side of things, we need more vehicle scanning equipment at our border checkpoints. Perhaps we also need to use artificial intelligence software to predict which cars/drivers might be bringing drugs across the border. I agree, but does not address the end user / market. If it was so easy to addict Americans in the 90's with ophiods...what's to say the next drug won't do the same thing? Why are Americans taking fentanyl? isn't that the key?
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