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Post by johneaztec on Jul 18, 2024 16:36:43 GMT -8
Yep, Trump wanted a bullet to buzz his ear and withstand the great possibility that he would die, get a civilian killed and two others injured, just so he could look like a hero. I get it that there's people out there like you, but I'm glad not many. Aardvarks right. All this deserves is a good knee slap, and a ROTFL, big time. No, it deserves a lot more deep thought than that. You could disagree with the conclusion but still find validity in the premise. The only part of the premise to conspiracy that has any POSSIBLE validity to me, is that the SS, and local law enforcement was nonchalant in their actions because they didn't care if Trump died. For me, 1 percent that could be true, 99 percent there was a whole lot of incompetency.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 18, 2024 16:41:42 GMT -8
No, it deserves a lot more deep thought than that. You could disagree with the conclusion but still find validity in the premise. The only part of the premise to conspiracy that has any POSSIBLE validity to me, is that the SS, and local law enforcement was nonchalant in their actions because they didn't care if Trump died. For me, 1 percent that could be true, 99 percent there was a whole lot of incompetency. Then why haven't we heard from the campaign? The medical team?
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 18, 2024 16:43:40 GMT -8
What official medical report says "a bullet" buzzed his ear?...Trump pulled the ole WWF wrestling move of "blading"...he intentionally cut his ear...you see he put his hand up over his ear...then dropped...that's why he hasn't shown anyone his ear...Evander Hollyfield didn't shy away from showing his...why hasn't Trump...because a bullet did not hit him...he intentionally "cut' it...now it's true innocents got killed/maimed...but so did people on Jan 6th...Trump orchestrated that event too...and he doesn't care about other's lives if it advances his agenda.... Wrestling Blading, Explainedwww.youtube.com/watch?v=DsBuWL7osfoThe Secret Of How Wrestlers Actually Bleedwww.youtube.com/watch?v=p5pDnxpWxzcOk, so now you're trolling, and I'm not here for it. What medical report have you seen with your own two eyes that says Trump was hit by a bullet?...that's not trolling that a legit question...is Trump a convicted fraudster?...that is not trolling...is he above cutting his own ear based on his past actions?...that is not trolling...did he ruin the lives of hundreds on Jan 6th to advance his agenda?...that is not trolling...the problem is you don't want to believe it...you can't fathom the thought of such immoral-ness...Trump is an immoral person...he got judges, politicians, laymen and women doing unusual actions for him...that's not trolling...that's a fact!!
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 18, 2024 16:55:12 GMT -8
Ok, so now you're trolling, and I'm not here for it. What medical report have you seen with your own two eyes that says Trump was hit by a bullet?...that's not trolling that a legit question...is Trump a convicted fraudster?...that is not trolling...is he above cutting his own ear based on his past actions?...that is not trolling...did he ruin the lives of hundreds on Jan 6th to advance his agenda?...that is not trolling...the problem is you don't want to believe it...you can't fathom the thought of such immoral-ness...Trump is an immoral person...he got judges, politicians, laymen and women doing unusual actions for him...that's not trolling...that's a fact!! Trolling is when you say that he cut his own ear, and he was part of a set-up to have a shooter shoot at him. That's not really hard to decipher. Did you look at the picture of his ear on the Snopes article debunking the shard of glass theory?
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 18, 2024 17:00:07 GMT -8
The only part of the premise to conspiracy that has any POSSIBLE validity to me, is that the SS, and local law enforcement was nonchalant in their actions because they didn't care if Trump died. For me, 1 percent that could be true, 99 percent there was a whole lot of incompetency. Then why haven't we heard from the campaign? The medical team? I don't know what is protocol. The only thing I can think of is that since it was obviously a bullet there's no need, RIGHT NOW, to confirm or deny. The only people saying it was a piece of glass are conspiracy theorists, gullible people who WANT it to be a piece of glass, or not gullible people, but people who just want to keep a conspiracy alive, since they'll go to any lengths to disparage Trump. I think it's 1/2 of a percent it was glass, and 991/2 percent it was a bullet.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 18, 2024 17:02:28 GMT -8
What medical report have you seen with your own two eyes that says Trump was hit by a bullet?...that's not trolling that a legit question...is Trump a convicted fraudster?...that is not trolling...is he above cutting his own ear based on his past actions?...that is not trolling...did he ruin the lives of hundreds on Jan 6th to advance his agenda?...that is not trolling...the problem is you don't want to believe it...you can't fathom the thought of such immoral-ness...Trump is an immoral person...he got judges, politicians, laymen and women doing unusual actions for him...that's not trolling...that's a fact!! Trolling is when you say that he cut his own ear, and he was part of a set-up to have a shooter shoot at him. That's not really hard to decipher. Did you look at the picture of his ear on the Snopes article debunking the shard of glass theory? A picture isn't a doctor's examination/report...it can be interpreted by many in many ways...the angle...AI generated...etc...all I saw was a red substance...I didn't see a .223 or .556 round hit...I've seen those...I didn't see a chunk torn out...neither did you...what does the doctor say?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 18, 2024 17:07:31 GMT -8
Then why haven't we heard from the campaign? The medical team? I don't know what is protocol. The only thing I can think of is that since it was obviously a bullet there's no need, RIGHT NOW, to confirm or deny. The only people saying it was a piece of glass are conspiracy theorists, gullible people who WANT it to be a piece of glass, or not gullible people, but people who just want to keep a conspiracy alive, since they'll go to any lengths to disparage Trump. I think it's 1/2 of a percent it was glass, and 991/2 percent it was a bullet. Why do you insist on this kind of stuff?
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Post by aardvark on Jul 18, 2024 17:15:46 GMT -8
Yep, Trump wanted a bullet to buzz his ear and withstand the great possibility that he would die, get a civilian killed and two others injured, just so he could look like a hero. I get it that there's people out there like you, but I'm glad not many. Aardvarks right. All this deserves is a good knee slap, and a ROTFL, big time. What official medical report says "a bullet" buzzed his ear?...Trump pulled the ole WWF wrestling move of "blading"...he intentionally cut his ear...you see he put his hand up over his ear...then dropped...that's why he hasn't shown anyone his ear...Evander Hollyfield didn't shy away from showing his...why hasn't Trump...because a bullet did not hit him...he intentionally "cut' it...now it's true innocents got killed/maimed...but so did people on Jan 6th...Trump orchestrated that event too...and he doesn't care about other's lives if it advances his agenda.... Wrestling Blading, Explainedwww.youtube.com/watch?v=DsBuWL7osfoThe Secret Of How Wrestlers Actually Bleedwww.youtube.com/watch?v=p5pDnxpWxzcComedy gold.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jul 18, 2024 17:45:40 GMT -8
"Inadequate protection?" They propped him up for a photo op and got his lifts out of shoes. These are *not* established facts, they are talking points. RFK got protection...which is the opposite of your "facts." We don't know, still, anything more than we did on Saturday. My god, this is what I'm talking about Ryan (ideology over truth). Do you think Trump got adequate protection??? A dude with a rifle got an elevated position about 150 yards away from him. Doesn't get much worse then that. Do you work for the Democratic party? Ryan, Opinions can be crazy……but crazy shouldn’t be opinion. Is that you sleeping on the corner of Hawthorn and Kettner? It is obvious that Trump’s protection was inadequate.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jul 18, 2024 17:47:52 GMT -8
Ok, so now you're trolling, and I'm not here for it. What medical report have you seen with your own two eyes that says Trump was hit by a bullet?...that's not trolling that a legit question...is Trump a convicted fraudster?...that is not trolling...is he above cutting his own ear based on his past actions?...that is not trolling...did he ruin the lives of hundreds on Jan 6th to advance his agenda?...that is not trolling...the problem is you don't want to believe it...you can't fathom the thought of such immoral-ness...Trump is an immoral person...he got judges, politicians, laymen and women doing unusual actions for him...that's not trolling...that's a fact!! And the person ACTUALLY KILLED was also performing a “stunt?”🤔 You be crazy.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 18, 2024 17:48:42 GMT -8
My god, this is what I'm talking about Ryan (ideology over truth). Do you think Trump got adequate protection??? A dude with a rifle got an elevated position about 150 yards away from him. Doesn't get much worse then that. Do you work for the Democratic party? Ryan, Opinions can be crazy……but crazy shouldn’t be opinion. Is that you sleeping on the corner of Hawthorn and Kettner? It is obvious that Trump’s protection was inadequate. You're correct, most of your opinions fall into that category. What's "obvious" isn't what I care about.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 18, 2024 17:49:32 GMT -8
What medical report have you seen with your own two eyes that says Trump was hit by a bullet?...that's not trolling that a legit question...is Trump a convicted fraudster?...that is not trolling...is he above cutting his own ear based on his past actions?...that is not trolling...did he ruin the lives of hundreds on Jan 6th to advance his agenda?...that is not trolling...the problem is you don't want to believe it...you can't fathom the thought of such immoral-ness...Trump is an immoral person...he got judges, politicians, laymen and women doing unusual actions for him...that's not trolling...that's a fact!! And the person ACTUALLY KILLED was also performing a “stunt?”🤔 You be crazy. Speaking of stunts...
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 18, 2024 17:54:03 GMT -8
And the person ACTUALLY KILLED was also performing a “stunt?”🤔 You be crazy. Speaking of stunts... Cue up "I care a lot" movie on Netflix.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 18, 2024 18:38:53 GMT -8
I don't know what is protocol. The only thing I can think of is that since it was obviously a bullet there's no need, RIGHT NOW, to confirm or deny. The only people saying it was a piece of glass are conspiracy theorists, gullible people who WANT it to be a piece of glass, or not gullible people, but people who just want to keep a conspiracy alive, since they'll go to any lengths to disparage Trump. I think it's 1/2 of a percent it was glass, and 991/2 percent it was a bullet. Why do you insist on this kind of stuff? It's my opinion just like you have many opinions that I shake my head at.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 18, 2024 18:44:50 GMT -8
Why do you insist on this kind of stuff? It's my opinion just like you have many opinions that I shake my head at. My opinions largely never revolve around the word "obvious." It creates a self-fulfilling circle of nothingness. If it was "obvious" it was a bullet, we would still get confirmation from law enforcement, from someone in the campaign, from somewhere, period. We got nothing, outside of the original Secret Service reports that it was glass, which still hasn't been confirmed. We should know more than we do, period. The idea that people will go to desperate lengths just to disparage an idiot who embarrasses himself on a daily basis is just lazy. It's reaching for low-hanging fruit. The answers we have to this point aren't adding up, outside of Trump fundraising off the event and turning himself into a martyr for his party, evidenced by the gullible folks who are taping bandages to their ear in some bizarre act of uniformity and solidarity.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 18, 2024 19:25:58 GMT -8
It's my opinion just like you have many opinions that I shake my head at. My opinions largely never revolve around the word "obvious." It creates a self-fulfilling circle of nothingness. If it was "obvious" it was a bullet, we would still get confirmation from law enforcement, from someone in the campaign, from somewhere, period. We got nothing, outside of the original Secret Service reports that it was glass, which still hasn't been confirmed. We should know more than we do, period. The idea that people will go to desperate lengths just to disparage an idiot who embarrasses himself on a daily basis is just lazy. It's reaching for low-hanging fruit. The answers we have to this point aren't adding up, outside of Trump fundraising off the event and turning himself into a martyr for his party, evidenced by the gullible folks who are taping bandages to their ear in some bizarre act of uniformity and solidarity. Your's include the words "It wasn't." "He will not" etc.... Same thing. At least I gave it a 1/2 percent chance of being true. Lol. If Trump really wanted to show off, he wouldn't have worn a bandage and just let the damage be seen it all it's glory. Of course he needs a bandage. What else should he have covered it with?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 18, 2024 19:33:25 GMT -8
My opinions largely never revolve around the word "obvious." It creates a self-fulfilling circle of nothingness. If it was "obvious" it was a bullet, we would still get confirmation from law enforcement, from someone in the campaign, from somewhere, period. We got nothing, outside of the original Secret Service reports that it was glass, which still hasn't been confirmed. We should know more than we do, period. The idea that people will go to desperate lengths just to disparage an idiot who embarrasses himself on a daily basis is just lazy. It's reaching for low-hanging fruit. The answers we have to this point aren't adding up, outside of Trump fundraising off the event and turning himself into a martyr for his party, evidenced by the gullible folks who are taping bandages to their ear in some bizarre act of uniformity and solidarity. Your's include the words "It wasn't." "He will not" etc.... Same thing. At least I gave it a 1/2 percent chance of being true. Lol. If Trump really wanted to show off, he wouldn't have worn a bandage and just let the damage be seen it all it's glory. Of course he needs a bandage. What else should he have covered it with? Because that's what was originally reported and what the crowd behaved like. We've covered this before. "Showing it off" ruins the grift.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 18, 2024 20:29:43 GMT -8
Your's include the words "It wasn't." "He will not" etc.... Same thing. At least I gave it a 1/2 percent chance of being true. Lol. If Trump really wanted to show off, he wouldn't have worn a bandage and just let the damage be seen it all it's glory. Of course he needs a bandage. What else should he have covered it with? Because that's what was originally reported and what the crowd behaved like. We've covered this before. "Showing it off" ruins the grift. Reported by Newsmax and other less than credible outlets. Newsmax is an outfit that you have regularly condemned on here, except in this one instance. I find that very curious. How was he showing it off? He had to wear a bandage over it. Are you saying it was too big and that's how he's showing it off? I hope not, because that would be a reach of all reaches. It's a normal bandage.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 18, 2024 20:40:15 GMT -8
Because that's what was originally reported and what the crowd behaved like. We've covered this before. "Showing it off" ruins the grift. Reported by Newsmax and other less than credible outlets. Newsmax is an outfit that you have regularly condemned on here, except in this one instance. I find that very curious. How was he showing it off? He had to wear a bandage over it. Are you saying it was too big and that's how he's showing it off? I hope not, because that would be a reach of all reaches. It's a normal bandage. Newsmax is as pro-Trump as it gets. Will they lie? Almost certainly. But they'll usually lie on the side that *benefits* Trump, not the other way around. I don't think that's astonishing other than the fact even they would not corroborate the bullet story. Let's be real: The entire media cycle has been unabashedly pro-Trump the last few weeks. Politico posting an article that Trump has "softened" and "changed" is like passing crazy town on your left. CNN essentially admitting that they sold out to garner clicks today was equally unsurprising, but incredibly frustrating. No, I'm arguing against your point where you said he would show it off to benefit his ego. Covering it up allows him to continue the grift and raise money off the event, rather than let the world see what a fraud he is and the facade comes crashing down. You can see the effect at the convention, look at the insane people that have taped bandages to their ear in a show of unity. Total cult-like behavior. And no, that's not a normal bandage for a wound that was pictured..but again, without knowing the actual extent of the damage, we are all just guessing. We still have no confirmation of the damage, obviously.
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Post by azson on Jul 19, 2024 8:29:14 GMT -8
What you say or call incompetence...I say it was deliberate...deliberately ignored the sightings/warnings...deliberately created the opportunity...Crooks was told where to go...his rifle was planted by whomever by the roof...nobody saw him carry it in...a way to get up on the roof of a building occupied by law enforcement was provided...that's the only way this went down...Crooks is either the luckiest would-be-assassin in the world...or some undercover Navy Seal/Special Forces operator...that somehow had the logistical/tactical wherewithal to pull off a highly sophisticated plot...Crooks is neither...he had high-level help from Trump et al...because the twice impeached, 34-count convicted felon, convicted fraudster, convicted rapist, loser by 7 million votes, with three pending indictments Republican nominee is the most to benefit from the ordeal.... Yep, Trump wanted a bullet to buzz his ear and withstand the great possibility that he would die, get a civilian killed and two others injured, just so he could look like a hero. I get it that there's people out there like you, but I'm glad not many. Aardvarks right. All this deserves is a good knee slap, and a ROTFL, big time. How quickly you forget Trump's shameless photo op in front of St. John's Church (as a self-avowed Christian that should have made you sick), one of many by the megalomaniac. He never passes up an opportunity to appear as the golden calf. You claim to have disavowed him, yet it appears from your comments in this thread you've been sucked right back into his conman worship. In which case, mission accomplished, regardless of any conspiracies being true or not.
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