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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2024 12:16:12 GMT -8
Not changed anything. We don't have enough information. Which should likely drive you to some critical thought as to why. No, you said it WASN'T a bullet. That's stating a fact. You've changed your tune. Why is it so difficult to admit you're wrong? That's a very bad trait to have. That was MY opinion, based on what the Secret Service was reporting and the EVIDENCE we had available. I haven't changed $#!+, you just want to read into everything. I'm sorry I didn't spell it out for you clearly enough. I'll put a disclaimer from now on. Note: Please don't take everything so literally, it's very weird for someone who speaks in constant generalities. How can someone be wrong without any proof? We don't know.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2024 12:17:36 GMT -8
I know. For someone to be labeled "School Shooter" as in he would be the number one person they would think of if their school got shot up, is VERY telling. Put all the other adjectives they used together, and it can point somewhere. As someone who went through a school shooting, this is fairly common. Where are you sourcing?
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2024 12:19:24 GMT -8
No, you said it WASN'T a bullet. That's stating a fact. You've changed your tune. Why is it so difficult to admit you're wrong? That's a very bad trait to have. That was MY opinion, based on what the Secret Service was reporting and the EVIDENCE we had available. I haven't changed $#!+, you just want to read into everything. I'm sorry I didn't spell it out for you clearly enough. I'll put a disclaimer from now on. Note: Please don't take everything so literally, it's very weird for someone who speaks in constant generalities. How can someone be wrong without any proof? We don't know. Dang, A for effort on the spin, AGAIN. You said it wasn't a bullet. You went out on a limb, right away, and said it and now you're backtracking and saying we don't have proof yet. You're easy to see through, Ryan. Just say you were wrong, and actually we're not sure what it was.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2024 12:27:16 GMT -8
That was MY opinion, based on what the Secret Service was reporting and the EVIDENCE we had available. I haven't changed $#!+, you just want to read into everything. I'm sorry I didn't spell it out for you clearly enough. I'll put a disclaimer from now on. Note: Please don't take everything so literally, it's very weird for someone who speaks in constant generalities. How can someone be wrong without any proof? We don't know. Dang, A for effort on the spin, AGAIN. You said it wasn't a bullet. You went out on a limb, right away, and said it and now you're backtracking and saying we don't have proof yet. You're easy to see through, Ryan. Just say you were wrong, and actually we're not sure what it was. An opinion is my own. If it was wrong, it'll be wrong.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2024 12:48:13 GMT -8
Dang, A for effort on the spin, AGAIN. You said it wasn't a bullet. You went out on a limb, right away, and said it and now you're backtracking and saying we don't have proof yet. You're easy to see through, Ryan. Just say you were wrong, and actually we're not sure what it was. An opinion is my own. If it was wrong, it'll be wrong. Fair enough.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2024 13:06:43 GMT -8
An opinion is my own. If it was wrong, it'll be wrong. Fair enough. I still think we're asking the wrong questions here. And as something that could potentially frame objectivity in the election, it's important to get to some element of truth.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 16, 2024 14:05:17 GMT -8
Except maybe he wasn't as conservative as one might think, since he donated to ActBlue. According to other classmates, he was also bullied regularly as a student in high school (per NBC News). It was $15 when he was 17. Classmates of his were all quoted as saying he was definitely conservative and leaned to the right of center. Still bullied. Regularly.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2024 15:14:13 GMT -8
It was $15 when he was 17. Classmates of his were all quoted as saying he was definitely conservative and leaned to the right of center. Still bullied. Regularly. Relentlessly bullied, depicted as a loner and identified as a potential "School Shooter."
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2024 15:35:40 GMT -8
Still bullied. Regularly. Relentlessly bullied, depicted as a loner and identified as a potential "School Shooter." But how do we go from that to assassination of a former president? Did Trump bully him? It's not rational.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2024 16:26:10 GMT -8
Relentlessly bullied, depicted as a loner and identified as a potential "School Shooter." But how do we go from that to assassination of a former president? Did Trump bully him? It's not rational. First off, he's obviously not a rationale person. Some people want to make a name for themselves. They'll commit an act like that to basically be somebody, in their eyes, because they've felt like they've been a nobody their whole lives. I don't know this to be true, but it's a theory.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2024 16:46:03 GMT -8
But how do we go from that to assassination of a former president? Did Trump bully him? It's not rational. First off, he's obviously not a rationale person. Some people want to make a name for themselves. They'll commit an act like that to basically be somebody in their eyes, because they've felt like they've been a nobody their whole lives. I don't this to be true, but it's a theory. That's not a typical scenario, but it's a possiblity.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2024 17:05:48 GMT -8
First off, he's obviously not a rationale person. Some people want to make a name for themselves. They'll commit an act like that to basically be somebody in their eyes, because they've felt like they've been a nobody their whole lives. I don't this to be true, but it's a theory. That's not a typical scenario, but it's a possiblity. Off the top of my head, Hinckley fit that description. He wanted to show his love for Jodie Foster and by doing it, he would be somebody, her equal. Get her attention. They're out there.
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jul 16, 2024 17:57:20 GMT -8
That's not a typical scenario, but it's a possiblity. Off the top of my head, Hinckley fit that description. He wanted to show his love for Jodie Foster and by doing it, he would be somebody, her equal. Get her attention. They're out there. Doubtful it works. While I remember Hinckley's name all these years later I've already forgotten Trump's shooter's name. The story here is about the epic fail by the Secret Service. It wouldn't make any difference if the shooter had been a card carrying socialist (which he wasn't). The shooting wasn't caused by Democrats or anyone else. Does anyone really believe there aren't lots of folks on both sides who would take a shot at their least favorite candidate given the chance? The problem this time is the shooter GOT THE CHANCE. Why the Secret Service director hasn't resigned or been fired by now seems ridiculous to me. What happened Saturday can NEVER happen.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2024 18:05:15 GMT -8
Off the top of my head, Hinckley fit that description. He wanted to show his love for Jodie Foster and by doing it, he would be somebody, her equal. Get her attention. They're out there. Doubtful it works. While I remember Hinckley's name all these years later I've already forgotten Trump's shooter's name. The story here is about the epic fail by the Secret Service. It wouldn't make any difference if the shooter had been a card carrying socialist (which he wasn't). The shooting wasn't caused by Democrats or anyone else. Does anyone really believe there aren't lots of folks on both sides who would take a shot at their least favorite candidate given the chance? The problem this time is the shooter GOT THE CHANCE. Why the Secret Service director hasn't resigned or been fired by now seems ridiculous to me. What happened Saturday can NEVER happen. Agreed.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2024 18:33:47 GMT -8
Off the top of my head, Hinckley fit that description. He wanted to show his love for Jodie Foster and by doing it, he would be somebody, her equal. Get her attention. They're out there. Doubtful it works. While I remember Hinckley's name all these years later I've already forgotten Trump's shooter's name. The story here is about the epic fail by the Secret Service. It wouldn't make any difference if the shooter had been a card carrying socialist (which he wasn't). The shooting wasn't caused by Democrats or anyone else. Does anyone really believe there aren't lots of folks on both sides who would take a shot at their least favorite candidate given the chance? The problem this time is the shooter GOT THE CHANCE. Why the Secret Service director hasn't resigned or been fired by now seems ridiculous to me. What happened Saturday can NEVER happen. Bingo, but what I will say is that the shooter himself is convinced that it will work, unfortunately. How a 20 year old, or anybody for that matter, could scale a wall and get around the SS so easily, is disgraceful.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2024 21:21:45 GMT -8
There's word out there that the shooter registered Republican to vote for Nikki Haley, and against Trump.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2024 21:33:14 GMT -8
There's word out there that the shooter registered Republican to vote for Nikki Haley, and against Trump. That I don't believe.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2024 22:42:56 GMT -8
There's word out there that the shooter registered Republican to vote for Nikki Haley, and against Trump. That I don't believe. Yeah, I don't know. Lots of stuff floating out there.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2024 7:15:00 GMT -8
Yeah, I don't know. Lots of stuff floating out there. Sources.... The timeline doesn't make sense. He hadn't voted since 2022.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 17, 2024 7:27:27 GMT -8
Yeah, I don't know. Lots of stuff floating out there. Sources.... The timeline doesn't make sense. He hadn't voted since 2022. I'm saying that I doubt it as well, but I heard it on an LA News Radio Station. I can't remember the station number. Just flipping it around. Hopefully more info on the shooter to come.
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