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Post by survalli on Jun 29, 2024 20:01:47 GMT -8
the draft outside of the 1st round is meaningless in the NBA, too many players not enough teams. the league will need to expand before any of the teams really care about the 2nd round.
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Post by uwphoto on Jun 30, 2024 6:46:32 GMT -8
the draft outside of the 1st round is meaningless in the NBA, too many players not enough teams. the league will need to expand before any of the teams really care about the 2nd round. Meaningless?? you mean like 3x MVP Nicola Jokic? 42nd pick..2nd round. |
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Post by Sdsu4life on Jun 30, 2024 8:52:38 GMT -8
the draft outside of the 1st round is meaningless in the NBA, too many players not enough teams. the league will need to expand before any of the teams really care about the 2nd round. It's not meaningless. It is still very important. However, it is a crapshoot. You are trying to find that diamond in the rough. the odds are greatly against you, but they are there. As mentioned above, Jokic is a 2nd rounder. Draymond Green as well. Manu Ginobili, Marc Gasol, Khris Middleton and planty of others who made significant impacts to their team. |
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Post by aztech on Jun 30, 2024 10:51:37 GMT -8
the draft outside of the 1st round is meaningless in the NBA, too many players not enough teams. the league will need to expand before any of the teams really care about the 2nd round. It's not meaningless. It is still very important. However, it is a crapshoot. You are trying to find that diamond in the rough. the odds are greatly against you, but they are there. As mentioned above, Jokic is a 2nd rounder. Draymond Green as well. Manu Ginobili, Marc Gasol, Khris Middleton and planty of others who made significant impacts to their team. So true. Busts happen in every sport where there's a draft. The only ones who make out are the draft pundits who need publicity. The smart teams are the ones who do their own research. Kawhi was the 15th selection in his draft. I wonder how many of the draftees above him are still in the NBA. |
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Post by AzTex on Jun 30, 2024 11:19:22 GMT -8
It's not meaningless. It is still very important. However, it is a crapshoot. You are trying to find that diamond in the rough. the odds are greatly against you, but they are there. As mentioned above, Jokic is a 2nd rounder. Draymond Green as well. Manu Ginobili, Marc Gasol, Khris Middleton and planty of others who made significant impacts to their team. So true. Busts happen in every sport where there's a draft. The only ones who make out are the draft pundits who need publicity. The smart teams are the ones who do their own research. Kawhi was the 15th selection in his draft. I wonder how many of the draftees above him are still in the NBA. If I were a betting man, I be willing to bet, without looking it up, that none of those drafted ahead of Kawhi are two times NBA Finals MVP. |
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Post by aztecdan8 on Jun 30, 2024 13:55:17 GMT -8
It looks like the only thing of real meaning that Keshad got out of going to Arizona was more cash. The exposure, and a better offensive system (running up and down the court) didn't help his draft stature. Spot on ... Other than being listed higher in mock draft boards and top XX draft prospects list... which got him ... nothing. |
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Post by sdsualumn2011 on Jun 30, 2024 14:02:28 GMT -8
It looks like the only thing of real meaning that Keshad got out of going to Arizona was more cash. The exposure, and a better offensive system (running up and down the court) didn't help his draft stature. Spot on ... Other than being listed higher in mock draft boards and top XX draft prospects list... which got him ... nothing. Keshad got more than "nothing". He got $400k. He and a lot of guys in his position that transfer to take in some NIL money know that they are unlikely to get drafted, or unlikely to make a lot of money in the NBA. So, they take the insurance money. You can't blame him for that. Guaranteed money that will help him boost his career and life outside of basketball if the NBA (Or overseas opportunities) were to not work out. You would have took the 400k too. A good security blanket while you chase an unlikely dream. So, transferring got him ALOT and was the right choice. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 30, 2024 14:33:58 GMT -8
Spot on ... Other than being listed higher in mock draft boards and top XX draft prospects list... which got him ... nothing. Keshad got more than "nothing". He got $400k. He and a lot of guys in his position that transfer to take in some NIL money know that they are unlikely to get drafted, or unlikely to make a lot of money in the NBA. So, they take the insurance money. You can't blame him for that. Guaranteed money that will help him boost his career and life outside of basketball if the NBA (Or overseas opportunities) were to not work out. You would have took the 400k too. A good security blanket while you chase an unlikely dream. So, transferring got him ALOT and was the right choice. Aztecdan8 was actually agreeing with me (and you) on my post where I said that Keshad mainly benefitted from the cash. |
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Post by docmm on Jun 30, 2024 14:37:57 GMT -8
He also DID get to show his offensive potential more in that offense, the same way Butler will most likely be able to do at Kentucky. Kasha's added "potential" could have been the difference between getting a Summer League Contract and a two-way contract with the Miami Heat.
Summer League only guys get round-trip transportation, accommodations and two meals a day along with $1,500 per diem. And that's for around 10-12 days.
Two-way contract : the minimum rookie salary for 2024-25 will be just a little over $1M. Two-way guys last year got about $560K and it will go up a bit this year with a higher salary cap. Players can go back and forth from the G League to the NBA team but can only be active for their NBA team for no more than 50 games a season.
If Keshad hadn't shown some growth in his game at Arizona, maybe he doesn't get the two-way.
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Post by survalli on Jul 1, 2024 9:34:00 GMT -8
the draft outside of the 1st round is meaningless in the NBA, too many players not enough teams. the league will need to expand before any of the teams really care about the 2nd round. Meaningless?? you mean like 3x MVP Nicola Jokic? 42nd pick..2nd round. yes, 15 roster spots, (3) 2-way spots, every year hundreds of players declare for the NBA draft. With 30 teams, How many spots are truly available? Much easier to trade away picks and sign rookie free agents at the bare minimum rather than chase talent through the draft. Even the first round has lost some of its luster, with teams drafting foreign longshots because they can stash their right overseas while they get developed. Then you have teams trading multiple years of first round picks, why? because signing a rookie that is a free agent in a need position is likely to be as productive as a mid to late 1st round draft pick. Basketball has a talent overload, and not enough NBA level places to showcase that talent. And meaningless doesnt imply you don't go through the motions, 2nd round picks can be used the same way as the 1st round picks as JoKic, who was stashed overseas for a year before the determination was made to bring him in the following year. |
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Post by docmm on Jul 1, 2024 15:56:11 GMT -8
Jaedon's T-Wolves play New Orleans on Friday, July 12th @ 2:00pm PST on ESPN 2 in their 1st Summer League game.
Charlotte plays the same time on the same channel the next day, the 13th vs Knicks. They haven't put out a summer league roster yet but i assume N Mensah will be on it.
BTW: Detroit didn't extend a qualifying offer to Malachi so he's an unrestricted FA. Remains to be seen if any team picks him up. If they did, it would most likely be for less than he made last year, $3,873,000.
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Post by heuschele on Jul 1, 2024 16:13:42 GMT -8
Jaedon's T-Wolves play New Orleans on Friday, July 12th @ 2:00pm PST on ESPN 2 in their 1st Summer League game. Charlotte plays the same time on the same channel the next day, the 13th vs Knicks. They haven't put out a summer league roster yet but i assume N Mensah will be on it. BTW: Detroit didn't extend a qualifying offer to Malachi so he's an unrestricted FA. Remains to be seen if any team picks him up. If they did, it would most likely be for less than he made last year, $3,873,000. Life is tough. He will be making less than 3.873m next year to play basketball. Do not know how he will cope. I am half joking. I recognize how hard it is to play in the nba, the work it took, how short many nba careers are, and that taxes is going to consume a large share of his pay. I say half joking because even with it being a difficult path, that is a lot of money to play a game. I do wish him the best. That was a fun season and he and his teammates provided me a lot of entertainment. Go aztecs |
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Post by aztecking on Jul 1, 2024 18:43:06 GMT -8
Spot on ... Other than being listed higher in mock draft boards and top XX draft prospects list... which got him ... nothing. Keshad got more than "nothing". He got $400k. He and a lot of guys in his position that transfer to take in some NIL money know that they are unlikely to get drafted, or unlikely to make a lot of money in the NBA. So, they take the insurance money. You can't blame him for that. Guaranteed money that will help him boost his career and life outside of basketball if the NBA (Or overseas opportunities) were to not work out. You would have took the 400k too. A good security blanket while you chase an unlikely dream. So, transferring got him ALOT and was the right choice. By the looks of it he blew a good chunk of it on some gaudy jewelry. |
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Post by aztecdan8 on Jul 1, 2024 18:47:48 GMT -8
He also DID get to show his offensive potential more in that offense, the same way Butler will most likely be able to do at Kentucky. Kasha's added "potential" could have been the difference between getting a Summer League Contract and a two-way contract with the Miami Heat. Summer League only guys get round-trip transportation, accommodations and two meals a day along with $1,500 per diem. And that's for around 10-12 days. Two-way contract : the minimum rookie salary for 2024-25 will be just a little over $1M. Two-way guys last year got about $560K and it will go up a bit this year with a higher salary cap. Players can go back and forth from the G League to the NBA team but can only be active for their NBA team for no more than 50 games a season. If Keshad hadn't shown some growth in his game at Arizona, maybe he doesn't get the two-way. Not sure but do 2 way guys get paid based on his many games they play in the G League and their NBA teams. Last I knew 2 way guys could play up to 50 games with the NBA team. Do they get more for games played there ... say playing 45 vs 10 on their NBA team? |
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Post by docmm on Jul 2, 2024 6:49:53 GMT -8
He also DID get to show his offensive potential more in that offense, the same way Butler will most likely be able to do at Kentucky. Kasha's added "potential" could have been the difference between getting a Summer League Contract and a two-way contract with the Miami Heat. Summer League only guys get round-trip transportation, accommodations and two meals a day along with $1,500 per diem. And that's for around 10-12 days. Two-way contract : the minimum rookie salary for 2024-25 will be just a little over $1M. Two-way guys last year got about $560K and it will go up a bit this year with a higher salary cap. Players can go back and forth from the G League to the NBA team but can only be active for their NBA team for no more than 50 games a season. If Keshad hadn't shown some growth in his game at Arizona, maybe he doesn't get the two-way. Not sure but do 2 way guys get paid based on his many games they play in the G League and their NBA teams. Last I knew 2 way guys could play up to 50 games with the NBA team. Do they get more for games played there ... say playing 45 vs 10 on their NBA team? I believe they get paid half the NBA rookie contract regardless of how many games they play. That should be about $600,000 with the new salary cap next season. They can play up to 50 NBA games in a season and still stay on that contract. But the NBA teams can change that to an standard NBA contract any time up to the last game of the season. Only players in their first three years can get them. |
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Post by missiontrails on Jul 11, 2024 9:19:24 GMT -8
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Post by sdmotohead on Jul 11, 2024 9:26:18 GMT -8
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Post by missiontrails on Jul 11, 2024 10:06:53 GMT -8
Well, that's good. I'm guessing NBA.com probably needs to do a sweep and update many of their summer league rosters. |
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Post by imhighonx on Jul 12, 2024 15:04:30 GMT -8
Ouch. 0-2 with 4 fouls in 13 minutes. Not the summer league domination debut for which I was hoping.
Need a major bounce back in the next game.
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Post by aztecs2019 on Jul 12, 2024 15:20:30 GMT -8
Had the game on but wasn't really paying that much attention... but what was definitely visible was the fact that LeDee no longer looked physically impressive on the floor when the heights & weights of all the other players have shifted up.
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