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Post by laaztec on Jun 27, 2024 21:06:55 GMT -8
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Post by jp92grad on Jun 27, 2024 21:08:57 GMT -8
Does anyone know how is Keshad misunderstood? Question for people who may know this, did Keshad really get a Porsche while at the UofA? (just asking for a friend)
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jun 27, 2024 21:26:13 GMT -8
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Post by docmm on Jun 28, 2024 5:10:10 GMT -8
In 6 years in college (one as a redshirt) he only averaged 17.9 minutes a game. And that's with him averaging almost 33 minutes a game this past season. I look at it as he's got a lot of tread left on those tires.
I'm sure he picked Minnesota for a reason. He's a pretty good defender and the Timberwolves hang their hat on that. He's like they're Naz Reid but with a height and wingspan that's just a few inches smaller. But I could see him taking Luka Garza's or TJ Warren's spots. At 6'8", 253 lbs of muscle, he can play with the big boys.
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Post by imhighonx on Jun 28, 2024 5:17:25 GMT -8
I will be rooting for the summer T Wolves and hope I see/hear some Aztec fans in Vegas supporting Ledee!
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Post by aztecking on Jun 28, 2024 7:37:32 GMT -8
Older players, grad transfers, super seniors typically don't get drafted. LeDee is 24 and turns 25 in July, Keshad is 23 both have 5 or more years in NCAA experience, so they will be signed as free agents for a G-League or perhaps a two-way contact. Two-way contracts allow developing NBA caliber players to be rostered on both an NBA team and its G League affiliate. Players signed to two-way contracts are paid one salary for their time in both leagues, and they don't count toward a team's salary cap. NBA contracts vary significantly in their guarantee structures, ranging from fully guaranteed to non-guaranteed. G-League contracts are similar but typically offer a single year guaranteed. For example, Jordan Schakel's two-way contract with the Washington Wizards earned him $149,690 for the NBA (adjusted for inflation: $159,094). After being waived by the Wizards, Schakel finished the season with Golden State's Santa Cruz team. Last year, he signed a non-guaranteed contract with the Celtics' G-League team in Maine. 2022/23 Washington Wizards $96,514 ($99,379*) 2021/22 Washington Wizards $53,176 ($59,715*) Total $149,690 ($159,094*) Keshad and everyone in his camp thought he was going to get drafted. Everyone said he left SDSU for NIL money and to play in an offense that would show off what he can do to improve his draft stock. He could have received a 2 way deal out of SDSU. Other than the NIL money, which was considerable, going to Arizona didn't really help his standing with the NBA. Maybe he used some of his NIL money on his gold grillz. x.com/CookTalksalot/status/1806460594930983274On a side note Bronny getting drafted is a joke. He took a real player's draft spot because the Lakers chose a PR stunt. Stupid. I guess we know how he spent Arizona’s NIL money. He better be careful or he will end up like so many former players…in bankruptcy.
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Post by DeeMoney on Jun 28, 2024 7:59:23 GMT -8
I think it's hilarious (and sad) that a 24 year old is considered to be too old to draft. Especially when players can play into their late 30's. He's got 12-15 years before his days as a solid contributor would be over. And with his physicality and skillset he would be NBA ready in a year. Or less. I think its less a matter of the amount of time the player has left, rather the idea that a good portion of their success can be attributed to their relative physical dominance due to their age. Mind you this is speaking in general about a 24 year old vs an 18 year old, not just Jaedon. I imagine many scouts & GMs feel that the 24 yr old has reached his peak, whereas the teenager still has potential to grow and they are projecting they will be better than what the 24 year old is.
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Post by rockshow on Jun 28, 2024 9:45:14 GMT -8
I'd be interested to see how much playing time a Zach Randolph type guy would get in today's NBA. Or even a Karl Malone. Or most recently a guy like Paul Millsap.
LeDee is definitely in the ilk of those players. Not an explosive leaper, not a great shot blocker. But a dude who is physical, knows how to use his body, can finish in different ways, multiple moves, can step out and hit jumpers and will work for every basket and fight for rebounds.
I'm not saying LeDee is on the level of those guys, hall of famers and all stars (and LeDee is about an inch shorter with a shorter wingspan) but he certainly is in that mold that doesn't seem to really exist too much today. Power Forwards are all tall, lean, lanky athletic shooters. Teams want one rim protector and rest of the guys on the perimeter.
If this was 30 years ago, I think LeDee goes in the first round. But now he'll be lucky to find a roster spot.
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Post by 2010aztec on Jun 28, 2024 10:29:18 GMT -8
It hasn't been confirmed, but I think this is just a summer league invite as of now. Should he show the Wolves something, I believe they have one two-way spot open as Daishen Nix is now ineligible since he's completed 3 years in the league. If he sticks there, it's a good gamble. Naz Reid will be a restricted free agent after next season so they're going to have to decide whether they keep him, or trade KAT, but there won't be $$ for both. At that point, Gobert will be 33, but he should still be around. They also have a 20 y/o PF in Leonard Miller, but Jaedon would have a path to be a rotation big on a contending team, which would be incredible. Pulling for our guy!
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Post by heuschele on Jun 28, 2024 11:05:22 GMT -8
I think it's hilarious (and sad) that a 24 year old is considered to be too old to draft. Especially when players can play into their late 30's. He's got 12-15 years before his days as a solid contributor would be over. And with his physicality and skillset he would be NBA ready in a year. Or less. In addition ledee was one of the most improved players in the country. There is no sign that he is near his plateau. If he has half the improvement that he had a year ago he would be better than most of those drafted players.
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Post by junior on Jun 28, 2024 12:18:01 GMT -8
If he can make the same leap as he did here last year in terms of development and leadership, he'll be ROY.
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Post by azdick on Jun 28, 2024 13:42:33 GMT -8
A scene I would love to see:
Timberwolves hosting Dallas; Luca “guarding” the “La Beast” as Jaeden drives down the middle and lays it in and one; Luca of course, shrugs and turns red with embarrassment. Go Timberwolves!!
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Post by docmm on Jun 28, 2024 14:35:06 GMT -8
He could always turn into an Antonio Gates.
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Post by mySTRAS on Jun 28, 2024 21:24:55 GMT -8
I'd be interested to see how much playing time a Zach Randolph type guy would get in today's NBA. Or even a Karl Malone. Or most recently a guy like Paul Millsap. LeDee is definitely in the ilk of those players. Not an explosive leaper, not a great shot blocker. But a dude who is physical, knows how to use his body, can finish in different ways, multiple moves, can step out and hit jumpers and will work for every basket and fight for rebounds. I'm not saying LeDee is on the level of those guys, hall of famers and all stars (and LeDee is about an inch shorter with a shorter wingspan) but he certainly is in that mold that doesn't seem to really exist too much today. Power Forwards are all tall, lean, lanky athletic shooters. Teams want one rim protector and rest of the guys on the perimeter. If this was 30 years ago, I think LeDee goes in the first round. But now he'll be lucky to find a roster spot.Best comment in this entire thread... by far.
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Post by mySTRAS on Jun 28, 2024 21:26:42 GMT -8
He could always turn into an Antonio Gates. 2nd best comment in this thread.
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Post by gamer2101 on Jun 29, 2024 8:28:19 GMT -8
You also have to keep in mind that most are saying this is considered a weak draft class. It almost seems like the teams feel like they are good for now on talent and they’d rather focus on the young guys that they feel have the biggest up side. JMO
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 29, 2024 9:35:54 GMT -8
You also have to keep in mind that most are saying this is considered a weak draft class. It almost seems like the teams feel like they are good for now on talent and they’d rather focus on the young guys that they feel have the biggest up side. JMO I don't know, 3 of the top 5 guys weren't in college. I'm not sure what that says. More overseas talent then their was in the past, and also a guy who went the g-league route instead of the college route. Zaccharie Risacher is an incredible shooter for a small forward. Stephon Castle is talented, bigtime two-way player, reminds me of a smaller Kawhi with better on-ball skills. Incredible rebounder and defender. His range is anywhere from solid starter to all-star. 75% FT shooter indicates that his jump shooting will catch up to his FT shooting and he will become a capable 3 point shooter.
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Post by Gundo on Jun 29, 2024 10:39:25 GMT -8
The NBA draft is about future potential rather than today, here's an example the bucks drafted Guard A.J. Johnson #23, who is a 6'4" 167lbs from the NBL (Australia), who played in 26 games, and averaged 2.9 points, 1.3 rebounds, 0.7 assists, and shot 37% from the field.
ESPN Evaluation: Strengths: Johnson is a fluid, talented guard with a narrow frame who is looking to build on the experience he picked up in the NBL. Weaknesses: He played sparingly last season as his lack of strength, defensive prowess and consistency remain a work in progress.
But he is 19 years old, so "potential." But his numbers were $#!+ and his weaknesses don't bod well for the professional ranks. Johnson is from Fresno.. He played with the Illawarra Hawks in the NBL, an Australian professional basketball league. He didn't play NCAA ball, so how has he been tested sitting on the bench in Australia?
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Post by Den60 on Jun 29, 2024 16:01:02 GMT -8
Keshad and everyone in his camp thought he was going to get drafted. Everyone said he left SDSU for NIL money and to play in an offense that would show off what he can do to improve his draft stock. He could have received a 2 way deal out of SDSU. Other than the NIL money, which was considerable, going to Arizona didn't really help his standing with the NBA. Maybe he used some of his NIL money on his gold grillz. x.com/CookTalksalot/status/1806460594930983274On a side note Bronny getting drafted is a joke. He took a real player's draft spot because the Lakers chose a PR stunt. Stupid. I guess we know how he spent Arizona’s NIL money. He better be careful or he will end up like so many former players…in bankruptcy. Unfortunately, many NBA players end up filing bancruptcy within 5 year of leaving the league. At east the NFL requires newly drafted players to attend a weekend orientation that tries to educate them on how to manage their new success. Ryan Leaf went to Vegas, instead.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 29, 2024 17:48:46 GMT -8
It looks like the only thing of real meaning that Keshad got out of going to Arizona was more cash. The exposure, and a better offensive system (running up and down the court) didn't help his draft stature.
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