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Post by mySTRAS on Jun 21, 2024 16:27:53 GMT -8
Is Xander Schauffele having the single greatest professional season by an Aztec alum?
Marshall Faulk in 2000?
Stephen Strasburg in 2017?
Tony Gwynn in 1994 or 1997?
Kawhi Leonard in 2018/19?
Due to my recency bias... anyone previous to the quartet above?
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Post by aronoff on Jun 21, 2024 17:43:31 GMT -8
Gene Littler won 5 PGA tmnts in 1959, 29 all time
at the time many of his wins were big tournaments
Graig Nettles had some big years in the 70's
Willie Steele in the Olympics
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Post by wakelaunch on Jun 21, 2024 18:06:34 GMT -8
has to be Marshall Faulk in 2000. He was the NFL MVP and a Super Bowl champion in the same year. Nothing is better than that
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Post by nebraztec on Jun 21, 2024 18:12:15 GMT -8
has to be Marshall Faulk in 2000. He was the NFL MVP and a Super Bowl champion in the same year. Nothing is better than that I would agree with Faulk. But Brian Sipe was the NFL MVP as well. |
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Post by namssa on Jun 21, 2024 18:42:57 GMT -8
Leonard hitting the game winning shot for Toronto against the Sixers at the buzzer in game 7 and then taking them to their first and only National Title was a pretty good season too.
Gwynn's 1994 season where he finished with at .394 batting average is up there.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jun 21, 2024 19:50:00 GMT -8
Gene Littler won 5 PGA tmnts in 1959, 29 all time at the time many of his wins were big tournaments Graig Nettles had some big years in the 70's Willie Steele in the Olympics The machine was playing against some titans of golf. Palmer, Nicklaus, Trevino, Player, Casper, Hogan, and SneD to name a few. |
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Post by fowl on Jun 21, 2024 20:23:02 GMT -8
It begins and ends with Tony hitting 394 in 94 and voting to strike thereby sabotaging his attempt at 400. If you look at the starting pitchers he was going to face the rest of the season he had been hitting over 420 against them. There’s no doubt in my mind he would have gotten it. He was so locked in that season.
Lots of guys have won nfl mvp and a Super Bowl,, or five pga tourneys in a year, or a basketball player hitting a game 7 shot. No one has hit 400, let alone 394 in almost a century and very few have done in all of history.
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Post by mySTRAS on Jun 21, 2024 20:46:12 GMT -8
It begins and ends with Tony hitting 394 in 94 and voting to strike thereby sabotaging his attempt at 400. If you look at the starting pitchers he was going to face the rest of the season he had been hitting over 420 against them. There’s no doubt in my mind he would have gotten it. He was so locked in that season. Lots of guys have won nfl mvp and a Super Bowl,, or five pga tourneys in a year, or a basketball player hitting a game 7 shot. No one has hit 400, let alone 394 in almost a century and very few have done in all of history. As a counter-argument... Tony finished 7th in NL MVP voting that year. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jun 21, 2024 20:58:21 GMT -8
It begins and ends with Tony hitting 394 in 94 and voting to strike thereby sabotaging his attempt at 400. If you look at the starting pitchers he was going to face the rest of the season he had been hitting over 420 against them. There’s no doubt in my mind he would have gotten it. He was so locked in that season. Lots of guys have won nfl mvp and a Super Bowl,, or five pga tourneys in a year, or a basketball player hitting a game 7 shot. No one has hit 400, let alone 394 in almost a century and very few have done in all of history. As a counter-argument... Tony finished 7th in NL MVP voting that year. Faulk lost the Heisman to a 7th round draft pick. |
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Post by mySTRAS on Jun 21, 2024 21:09:09 GMT -8
As a counter-argument... Tony finished 7th in NL MVP voting that year. Faulk lost the Heisman to a 7th round draft pick. He still finished 2nd... not 7th IN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE. |
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Post by docmm on Jun 21, 2024 21:11:13 GMT -8
It begins and ends with Tony hitting 394 in 94 and voting to strike thereby sabotaging his attempt at 400. If you look at the starting pitchers he was going to face the rest of the season he had been hitting over 420 against them. There’s no doubt in my mind he would have gotten it. He was so locked in that season. Lots of guys have won nfl mvp and a Super Bowl,, or five pga tourneys in a year, or a basketball player hitting a game 7 shot. No one has hit 400, let alone 394 in almost a century and very few have done in all of history. MLB players have hit .400 or more 13 times since 1900 but none since Ted Williams hit .406 in 1941, 83 years ago. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 21, 2024 21:17:16 GMT -8
Faulk lost the Heisman to a 7th round draft pick. He still finished 2nd... not 7th IN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE. To be fair, some of those guys ahead of him were using steroids to put up absurd numbers. If Gwynn didn't play in the steroid era, he would have finished higher in MVP voting. |
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jun 21, 2024 21:45:22 GMT -8
I'd put Gwynn's 1987, 1994, and 1997 seasons above anything any other Aztec has accomplished in a season.
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Post by missiontrails on Jun 22, 2024 7:05:22 GMT -8
None of these are in the running for BEST professional year by an Aztec but are certainly worthy of honorable mention... Stephen Strasburg WS MVP 2019 Willie Steele gold medal for long jump - 1948 Olympics Fred Dryer - Pro Bowl in 1970 and 1975 Isaac Curtis - Pro Bowl 4 straight years (1973 - 1976) (an interesting article) www.bengals.com/news/inside-the-drafting-of-isaac-curtis-and-how-he-helped-the-bengals-change-the-gamWillie Buchanon - NFL Def. ROY 1972, led the NFC in interceptions in 1978, including a still-standing record 4 in a game vs the Chargers Kyle Turley - Pro Bowl 2001 and 2002 La'Roi Glover - 6 straight Pro Bowls Mark Grace - most hits by any major leaguer in the 1990's, 3-time all-star |
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Post by RiffelBooks on Jun 22, 2024 7:55:41 GMT -8
I think Strasburg's 2019 deserves more of a mention than just the 2019 WS MVP. In the regular season, he was 18-6 with a 3.32 ERA, threw 209 innings and struck out 251 batters. Last year, only two pitchers threw more innings and one struck out more hitters.
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Post by azdick on Jun 22, 2024 8:16:51 GMT -8
Very hard to compare across different sports. Having said that, you have to give Tony the edge because he sustained his greatness year after year. Hitting .394 is just phenominal.
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Post by wakelaunch on Jun 22, 2024 8:21:51 GMT -8
has to be Marshall Faulk in 2000. He was the NFL MVP and a Super Bowl champion in the same year. Nothing is better than that I would agree with Faulk. But Brian Sipe was the NFL MVP as well. Super Bowl is huge add on for one season. Faulk is also most likely the 7th best running back of all time. I don't know if Sipe is even in the top 30-40 all time. He finished with 1300 yards rushing and 800 yards receiving and 26 TDs. He could have had more but the offense was so balanced with also having former Aztec great Az Hakim. |
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Post by Den60 on Jun 22, 2024 14:06:35 GMT -8
Gene Littler won 5 PGA tmnts in 1959, 29 all time at the time many of his wins were big tournaments Graig Nettles had some big years in the 70's Willie Steele in the Olympics The machine was playing against some titans of golf. Palmer, Nicklaus, Trevino, Player, Casper, Hogan, and SneD to name a few. However, the overall depth on the pro circuit(s) is much stronger than it was back them. Schaufelle is having a very good year. Were he to win the Open then that would make a very good argument for best overall in a year. Even defending his Olympics would put him seriously in that conversation. I really cannot decide but there simply hasn't been a better pure hitter in MLB than Tony Gwynn in the last 50 years. Ted Williams, a San Diegan, is the last to hit over 400. Arraez is a bit like Gwynn but TG is "Mr. Padre" because of his loyalty to the team and the city. Marshall Faulk deserves mention, of course. I supposes you could add Brian Sipe's 1980 MVP to the conversation. Kawhi is a 2 time playoff MVP and is a future hall of famer. Strasburg will be one as well. For me, it is just fun seeing so many former Aztecs making a name for themselves after leaving for the pros. |
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Post by bobcooper84 on Jun 22, 2024 14:18:16 GMT -8
If Xander wins the Open, for me, it's his!
Otherwise, a draw between Tony (.394), Marshall (Super Bowl) and Kawhi (Raptors).
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Post by zurac315 on Jun 22, 2024 15:44:06 GMT -8
I have no idea.
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