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Post by aztecryan on Jun 5, 2024 10:06:18 GMT -8
This has been brought up casually in other threads, but it deserves its own, based solely on how serious the consequences could be if it's enacted. I'm not sure how many people are fundamentally aware of the radicalized nature of the program.
What is Project 2025? In short, a fundamental reshaping of the federal government, based on a Republican victory in this November's election. The project's aim is to recruit thousands of conservatives to replace existing civil servants, who would be fired after the reinstatement of "Schedule F." Under the "Presidential Transition Project" that's being spearheaded by the Heritage Foundation, much of the infrastructure of the existing federal government would be gutted. This includes extreme funding cuts and a comprehensive rebuild of the DOJ to curb its independence, changes to the FBI and a proposal to abolish the Department of Education.
What is the goal of Project 2025? Under the existing proposal, loyalists would fill the positions of those fired employees to promote and uphold a "conservative agenda" where power would be consolidated unitarily under the executive branch. The power of specific actions of Congress would be curbed, allowing for the president to sidestep certain checks and balances. Other basic changes include the "redeployment of existing office personnel" into the field to "maximize law enforcement capacity" and fundamental restructuring of the Pentagon's hiring processes to promote an "anti-woke" agenda.
How could this affect basic civil rights? Well,
Project 2025 mentions that states should have the ability to impose work requirements on Medicaid, which helps to cover medical costs for low-income people. It also would federally criminalize the abortion pill under the Comstock Law, which originated over 150 years ago. These policies would disproportionately promote racial inequality on both fronts.
Further, Project 2025 calls for shifting the attention of the U.S. Department of Justice to quashing the supposed menace of “anti-white racism” by abolishing affirmative action policies. The policy agenda also calls for the next Republican administration to use the DOJ’s Civil Rights Division to “prosecute all state and local governments, institutions of higher education, corporations, and any other private employers” with affirmative action or DEI policies. And it demands that “voter registration fraud and unlawful ballot correction” be investigated by the DOJ’s Criminal Division instead of by its Civil Rights Division.
Your vote in November has a lot more on the line than you think it does.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 7, 2024 12:37:04 GMT -8
Two plus days and this thread has no responses. That may be just as scary as Project 2025's initiatives.
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Post by uwphoto on Jun 20, 2024 6:35:44 GMT -8
My opinion is that this will blow up in their faces! (should they gain full power). A major portion of these proposed changes is an attempt to "reel in" Democracy, which in essence has allowed too much freedom. You see similar panic in other modern democracies, such as France and Germany. People in these countries, and the US, have had it so good, for so long, that they now see that slipping due to systems that allowed it in the first place. A radical push to more control and overhaul to try to achieve a kind of 1950's "stability" will fail spectacularly. The horse is out of the barn. Society is too diverse, and the infrastructure too complex for complete societal overhaul. My take is that societies in these cultures are "panicking" due to societal and technological changes that are occurring too rapidly for adaption. Of course I'm stealing this premise from the 1970's book, "Future Shock" by Toffler..but it's not far off. Critical mass is, and always was, a factor in our current trajectory.
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 6, 2024 9:15:45 GMT -8
so, when Trump says he "knows nothing about Project 2025"....who's he talking to? Who is dumb enough to believe that? Maybe the resident Musician, but that's about it.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 6, 2024 9:22:10 GMT -8
so, when Trump says he "knows nothing about Project 2025"....who's he talking to? Who is dumb enough to believe that? Maybe the resident Musician, but that's about it. His communications director is the chief architect and his own spokesperson is filming ads for it. The distancing is knowing now that it's not a popular endeavor once it finally gets mainstream coverage. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 6, 2024 9:30:50 GMT -8
so, when Trump says he "knows nothing about Project 2025"....who's he talking to? Who is dumb enough to believe that? Maybe the resident Musician, but that's about it. His communications director is the chief architect and his own spokesperson is filming ads for it. The distancing is knowing now that it's not a popular endeavor once it finally gets mainstream coverage. I know, but the way this con artist easily manipulates a brain dead segment of the population is just off the scale dangerous. I firmly beleive that he could get 35-40% of the population to beleive the moon landing was faked. A somewhat normal person wouldn't even try it, because it's not true and unethical. The absolute, and total, hatred for this person is real. It is brushed aside as "TDS" by the cult, but they are buying into a crock full of $#!+. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 6, 2024 9:39:24 GMT -8
His communications director is the chief architect and his own spokesperson is filming ads for it. The distancing is knowing now that it's not a popular endeavor once it finally gets mainstream coverage. I know, but the way this con artist easily manipulates a brain dead segment of the population is just off the scale dangerous. I firmly beleive that he could get 35-40% of the population to beleive the moon landing was faked. A somewhat normal person wouldn't even try it, because it's not true and unethical. The absolute, and total, hatred for this person is real. It is brushed aside as "TDS" by the cult, but they are buying into a crock full of $#!+. That's not what it's about, though. The cult is going to believe what the cult believes. It's the other segments of the population that need to be made aware of the dangers of gutting civil servants, the destruction of government departments, the abolishment of the Department of Education, the budget concerns, the Christofascist overtones, the threats of violence against political opponents and so on. It needs to be covered for the Democrats, in particular and the moderate folks even more so. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 6, 2024 9:57:42 GMT -8
I know, but the way this con artist easily manipulates a brain dead segment of the population is just off the scale dangerous. I firmly beleive that he could get 35-40% of the population to beleive the moon landing was faked. A somewhat normal person wouldn't even try it, because it's not true and unethical. The absolute, and total, hatred for this person is real. It is brushed aside as "TDS" by the cult, but they are buying into a crock full of $#!+. That's not what it's about, though. The cult is going to believe what the cult believes. It's the other segments of the population that need to be made aware of the dangers of gutting civil servants, the destruction of government departments, the abolishment of the Department of Education, the budget concerns, the Christofascist overtones, the threats of violence against political opponents and so on. It needs to be covered for the Democrats, in particular and the moderate folks even more so. Well, apparently the portion of the voting public they fear as voters, are getting wind of 2025..hence the attempt at distancing. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 6, 2024 10:07:47 GMT -8
I know, but the way this con artist easily manipulates a brain dead segment of the population is just off the scale dangerous. I firmly beleive that he could get 35-40% of the population to beleive the moon landing was faked. A somewhat normal person wouldn't even try it, because it's not true and unethical. The absolute, and total, hatred for this person is real. It is brushed aside as "TDS" by the cult, but they are buying into a crock full of $#!+. That's not what it's about, though. The cult is going to believe what the cult believes. It's the other segments of the population that need to be made aware of the dangers of gutting civil servants, the destruction of government departments, the abolishment of the Department of Education, the budget concerns, the Christofascist overtones, the threats of violence against political opponents and so on. It needs to be covered for the Democrats, in particular and the moderate folks even more so. If his agenda, this project, is so radical and bad, can he be stopped from implementing any of this in some way? |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 6, 2024 10:10:54 GMT -8
That's not what it's about, though. The cult is going to believe what the cult believes. It's the other segments of the population that need to be made aware of the dangers of gutting civil servants, the destruction of government departments, the abolishment of the Department of Education, the budget concerns, the Christofascist overtones, the threats of violence against political opponents and so on. It needs to be covered for the Democrats, in particular and the moderate folks even more so. If his agenda, this project, is so radical and bad, can he be stopped from implementing any of this in some way? Yeah. It's called voting for the other guy. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 6, 2024 10:26:05 GMT -8
If his agenda, this project, is so radical and bad, can he be stopped from implementing any of this in some way? Yeah. It's called voting for the other guy. Ok. The answer is no. Got it. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 6, 2024 10:30:46 GMT -8
Yeah. It's called voting for the other guy. Ok. The answer is no. Got it. "Project 2025 is “a remarkably detailed guide to turning the United States into a fascist’s paradise.” The primary document of Project 2025, the magazine explains, lays out what is essentially a “Christian nationalist vision of the United States, one in which married heterosexuality is the only valid form of sexual expression and identity; all pregnancies would be carried to term, even if that requires coercion or death; and transgender and gender-nonconforming people do not exist.” Choose wisely. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 6, 2024 11:37:10 GMT -8
Ok. The answer is no. Got it. "Project 2025 is “a remarkably detailed guide to turning the United States into a fascist’s paradise.” The primary document of Project 2025, the magazine explains, lays out what is essentially a “Christian nationalist vision of the United States, one in which married heterosexuality is the only valid form of sexual expression and identity; all pregnancies would be carried to term, even if that requires coercion or death; and transgender and gender-nonconforming people do not exist.” Choose wisely. While I personally only believe in heterosexual marriage and against abortion, I also believe that people should be able to choose for themselves the path they want to take. I don't believe in discrimination. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 6, 2024 11:51:47 GMT -8
"Project 2025 is “a remarkably detailed guide to turning the United States into a fascist’s paradise.” The primary document of Project 2025, the magazine explains, lays out what is essentially a “Christian nationalist vision of the United States, one in which married heterosexuality is the only valid form of sexual expression and identity; all pregnancies would be carried to term, even if that requires coercion or death; and transgender and gender-nonconforming people do not exist.” Choose wisely. While I personally only believe in heterosexual marriage and against abortion, I also believe that people should be able to choose for themselves the path they want to take. I don't believe in discrimination. Good. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 6, 2024 13:08:41 GMT -8
Ok. The answer is no. Got it. "Project 2025 is “a remarkably detailed guide to turning the United States into a fascist’s paradise.” The primary document of Project 2025, the magazine explains, lays out what is essentially a “Christian nationalist vision of the United States, one in which married heterosexuality is the only valid form of sexual expression and identity; all pregnancies would be carried to term, even if that requires coercion or death; and transgender and gender-nonconforming people do not exist.” Choose wisely. This isn't even the worst part of their goals..(if you ask me). Getting rid of the EPA, Department of the Interior, eliminating Endangered Species Act and letting gas and oil and extraction industries run rampant over our public lands is worse. I'm including National Parks here. Not to mention any federal employees who don't cave to these goals..you know...the "educated ones". The cancerous trump has already said he'd give big oil 1 billion dollars up front. Geez who's money is that you think? Of course, destroying the Earth quicker, so a certain historical figure can return faster, has always been one of the goals of certain powers behind this movement. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 6, 2024 13:13:42 GMT -8
"Project 2025 is “a remarkably detailed guide to turning the United States into a fascist’s paradise.” The primary document of Project 2025, the magazine explains, lays out what is essentially a “Christian nationalist vision of the United States, one in which married heterosexuality is the only valid form of sexual expression and identity; all pregnancies would be carried to term, even if that requires coercion or death; and transgender and gender-nonconforming people do not exist.” Choose wisely. This isn't even the worst part of their goals..(if you ask me). Getting rid of the EPA, Department of the Interior, eliminating Endangered Species Act and letting gas and oil and extraction industries run rampant over our public lands is worse. I'm including National Parks here. Not to mention any federal employees who don't cave to these goals..you know...the "educated ones". The cancerous trump has already said he'd give big oil 1 billion dollars up front. Geez who's money is that you think? Of course, destroying the Earth quicker, so a certain historical figure can return faster, has always been one of the goals of certain powers behind this movement. I mean, I think killing innocent women and young girls is pretty awful. And then marginalizing an entire subsection of people so they cease to exist is pretty awful, too. There would be many, many unintended consequences. Increase in suicide rates, drug overdoses, discrimination policies that would lead to higher unemployment, economic tolls...it's a lot more than just what you see on the surface. |
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