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Post by aztecm on May 29, 2024 12:15:05 GMT -8
Agreed, the longer it goes the less likely it's a favorable outcome for State IMO. That article certainly makes it seem like it's down to BYU and SDSU, squeezing in a visit to BYU the day before a 2 week dead period implies to me there's real interest there on Mag's part. They got another big commitment this morning but they have several spots open and it shouldn't impact Mag's ability to start or play premier minutes for them. Really hope we can pull this one off and turn our focus to next season, but obviously we'll have to overcome major NIL dollars coming from competing schools, which is just a tough uphill climb. We may be on equal footing, financially. I question whether the LDS spends a lot of money on NIL. Their coaches aren't paid a whole lot of money, if that's a signal. I read BYU put NIL money behind their new coach (supposed to a guy that can get players ready for the NBA) and their new roster is looking pretty loaded. They landed the #1 euro recruit who's expected to be a lottery pick along with some other really solid players. My best guess is we're the backup for Mag, whether it's BYU or another school.
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Post by tayloner on May 29, 2024 12:16:11 GMT -8
Agreed, the longer it goes the less likely it's a favorable outcome for State IMO. That article certainly makes it seem like it's down to BYU and SDSU, squeezing in a visit to BYU the day before a 2 week dead period implies to me there's real interest there on Mag's part. They got another big commitment this morning but they have several spots open and it shouldn't impact Mag's ability to start or play premier minutes for them. Really hope we can pull this one off and turn our focus to next season, but obviously we'll have to overcome major NIL dollars coming from competing schools, which is just a tough uphill climb. We may be on equal footing, financially. I question whether the LDS spends a lot of money on NIL. Their coaches aren't paid a whole lot of money, if that's a signal. Interesting, I thought I saw somewhere that they're a top 15 to 20 program in terms of NIL budget. Of course I can't remember where that was so it's not confidently sourced, but my impression has always been they had deep pockets.
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Post by tayloner on May 29, 2024 12:26:49 GMT -8
Zeigler was asked on Jon & Jim about Mag and he didn't have any new info but basically said SDSU may need to move on soon if he doesn't commit....and that being said, just saw that Arthur Kaluma is withdrawing from the draft. No idea if he is even thinking about SDSU but based on position need and Seiko, there is some fit there (though I think it has been speculated that he may go back to K State and/or his NIL demands would be too high for SDSU anyway). Agreed w/ Zeigler and the general consensus of this board, given his visit to BYU and what appears to be waiting out the dead period, we may have fallen behind on this one. Tyler Harris (Washington) and Kevin Patton Jr. (USC) have both committed to other schools, the other targets that make sense for our positional need (Coleman Hawkins, Jaylen Wells, Kaluma, Trevon Brazile, etc.) are all going to be big NIL guys. So at this point, the staff may have to focus on finding some under-the-radar smaller school or maybe even JUCO guys that could play some minutes at the 3 and 4 next year to fill out the final spot. Summer session starts in about a month, can't imagine the roster isn't basically locked in the next 3 or 4 weeks.
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Post by haleiwaaztec on May 29, 2024 13:27:59 GMT -8
Zeigler was asked on Jon & Jim about Mag and he didn't have any new info but basically said SDSU may need to move on soon if he doesn't commit....and that being said, just saw that Arthur Kaluma is withdrawing from the draft. No idea if he is even thinking about SDSU but based on position need and Seiko, there is some fit there (though I think it has been speculated that he may go back to K State and/or his NIL demands would be too high for SDSU anyway). Agreed w/ Zeigler and the general consensus of this board, given his visit to BYU and what appears to be waiting out the dead period, we may have fallen behind on this one. Tyler Harris (Washington) and Kevin Patton Jr. (USC) have both committed to other schools, the other targets that make sense for our positional need (Coleman Hawkins, Jaylen Wells, Kaluma, Trevon Brazile, etc.) are all going to be big NIL guys. So at this point, the staff may have to focus on finding some under-the-radar smaller school or maybe even JUCO guys that could play some minutes at the 3 and 4 next year to fill out the final spot. Summer session starts in about a month, can't imagine the roster isn't basically locked in the next 3 or 4 weeks. I could see them leaving that scholarship empty instead of just plugging someone in just to have a body. They have enough guys that will get minutes next year (really only Majik and maybe Demarshay likely to not be part of rotation - but I actually think Johnson can give them quality minutes). It is one thing to plug in a guy like Mag but another to have a guy on bench that is taking away minutes from Taj/Compton.
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Post by docmm on May 29, 2024 14:01:08 GMT -8
We may be on equal footing, financially. I question whether the LDS spends a lot of money on NIL. Their coaches aren't paid a whole lot of money, if that's a signal. Interesting, I thought I saw somewhere that they're a top 15 to 20 program in terms of NIL budget. Of course I can't remember where that was so it's not confidently sourced, but my impression has always been they had deep pockets. It's easy to have deep pockets when you don't spend any money on alcohol, cigarettes, recreational drugs, condoms, regular underwear and replay-booth salaries.
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Post by tayloner on May 29, 2024 15:17:21 GMT -8
Agreed w/ Zeigler and the general consensus of this board, given his visit to BYU and what appears to be waiting out the dead period, we may have fallen behind on this one. Tyler Harris (Washington) and Kevin Patton Jr. (USC) have both committed to other schools, the other targets that make sense for our positional need (Coleman Hawkins, Jaylen Wells, Kaluma, Trevon Brazile, etc.) are all going to be big NIL guys. So at this point, the staff may have to focus on finding some under-the-radar smaller school or maybe even JUCO guys that could play some minutes at the 3 and 4 next year to fill out the final spot. Summer session starts in about a month, can't imagine the roster isn't basically locked in the next 3 or 4 weeks. I could see them leaving that scholarship empty instead of just plugging someone in just to have a body. They have enough guys that will get minutes next year (really only Majik and maybe Demarshay likely to not be part of rotation - but I actually think Johnson can give them quality minutes). It is one thing to plug in a guy like Mag but another to have a guy on bench that is taking away minutes from Taj/Compton. Ya, if the best we can land this late in the game is a "just a guy" type, we'll probably be better off in March with BJ, Taj and Pharoah getting significant early season run and not having a more average progress-stopper player in front of them. Could make that early stretch of the season a little rough though, only having 5 or 6 guys who have played significant college minutes (and 1 or 2 of those at a lower level of competition).
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Post by docmm on May 29, 2024 15:21:11 GMT -8
I could see them leaving that scholarship empty instead of just plugging someone in just to have a body. They have enough guys that will get minutes next year (really only Majik and maybe Demarshay likely to not be part of rotation - but I actually think Johnson can give them quality minutes). It is one thing to plug in a guy like Mag but another to have a guy on bench that is taking away minutes from Taj/Compton. Ya, if the best we can land this late in the game is a "just a guy" type, we'll probably be better off in March with BJ, Taj and Pharoah getting significant early season run and not having a more average progress-stopper player in front of them. Could make that early stretch of the season a little rough though, only having 5 or 6 guys who have played significant college minutes (and 1 or 2 of those at a lower level of competition). Especially given the OOC schedule next season.
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Post by sdsu1776 on May 29, 2024 17:08:39 GMT -8
Ya, if the best we can land this late in the game is a "just a guy" type, we'll probably be better off in March with BJ, Taj and Pharoah getting significant early season run and not having a more average progress-stopper player in front of them. Could make that early stretch of the season a little rough though, only having 5 or 6 guys who have played significant college minutes (and 1 or 2 of those at a lower level of competition). Especially given the OOC schedule next season. What is our OOC schedule next year?
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Post by docmm on May 29, 2024 19:55:50 GMT -8
Especially given the OOC schedule next season. What is our OOC schedule next year? Oregon, Creighton, Texas A&M, Gonzaga and Cal
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Post by fastaztec on May 29, 2024 20:12:59 GMT -8
What is our OOC schedule next year? Oregon, Creighton, Texas A&M, Gonzaga and Cal ******* Gonzaga at home? The rest away? Plus 6 or so home stiffs.
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Post by docmm on May 29, 2024 20:26:20 GMT -8
Oregon, Creighton, Texas A&M, Gonzaga and Cal ******* Gonzaga at home? The rest away? Plus 6 or so home stiffs. Gonzaga here, Cal neutral, I assume the rest in Vegas at the NIL Tournament. Probably Long Beach State here.
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Post by Gundo on May 30, 2024 8:42:04 GMT -8
BYUs Jaxson Robinson is withdrawing from the NBA draft, but transferring to Kentucky which opens up a roster spot for Mawot Mag in SLC.
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Post by ramrodd23 on May 30, 2024 8:44:26 GMT -8
Zeigler was asked on Jon & Jim about Mag and he didn't have any new info but basically said SDSU may need to move on soon if he doesn't commit....and that being said, just saw that Arthur Kaluma is withdrawing from the draft. No idea if he is even thinking about SDSU but based on position need and Seiko, there is some fit there (though I think it has been speculated that he may go back to K State and/or his NIL demands would be too high for SDSU anyway). Ziegler is right. SDSU is not getting Mag. No way on Kaluma. He doesn’t fit SDSU type on style. Also Dutcher would have no hair on Kaluma shot selection, especially late in games.
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Post by sdsuball on May 30, 2024 13:35:31 GMT -8
Zeigler was asked on Jon & Jim about Mag and he didn't have any new info but basically said SDSU may need to move on soon if he doesn't commit....and that being said, just saw that Arthur Kaluma is withdrawing from the draft. No idea if he is even thinking about SDSU but based on position need and Seiko, there is some fit there (though I think it has been speculated that he may go back to K State and/or his NIL demands would be too high for SDSU anyway). Ziegler is right. SDSU is not getting Mag. No way on Kaluma. He doesn’t fit SDSU type on style. Also Dutcher would have no hair on Kaluma shot selection, especially late in games. Again, I think that we are better off getting a hs late bloomer - either an instant impact Matt Mitchell type, or a long player with lots of talent who is still growing into their body (aka. like Gwath).
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Post by ramrodd23 on May 30, 2024 15:39:12 GMT -8
Ziegler is right. SDSU is not getting Mag. No way on Kaluma. He doesn’t fit SDSU type on style. Also Dutcher would have no hair on Kaluma shot selection, especially late in games. Again, I think that we are better off getting a hs late bloomer - either an instant impact Matt Mitchell type, or a long player with lots of talent who is still growing into their body (aka. like Gwath). It might be. But clearly the coaches want a Senior 4/3. They don’t want to roll the dice on a redshirt freshman that hasn’t played and a true freshman. Both I think will be really good a year out. Again, Saunders leaving last min hurt SDSU coaches getting a good transfer to replace him.
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Post by hoobs on May 30, 2024 18:44:10 GMT -8
I'm honestly very excited to see what Gwath & Compton can do at the 4. We'll be quite young at that spot, but have plenty of experience elsewhere on the roster. And Gwath has the 'asterisk' of potentially being really good.
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Post by docmm on May 30, 2024 19:50:27 GMT -8
I'm honestly very excited to see what Gwath & Compton can do at the 4. We'll be quite young at that spot, but have plenty of experience elsewhere on the roster. And Gwath has the 'asterisk' of potentially being really good. If J.T. Toppin can do that as a true Freshman, there's no reason one or both of these guys can't step up big early.
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Post by dlangford9 on May 31, 2024 13:30:43 GMT -8
Good points above. Also, Coleman-Jones could play some minutes at 4 while Heide is at 5.
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Post by docmm on Jun 1, 2024 7:40:28 GMT -8
The "Dead Period" is over after tomorrow. Here's the official definition:
"A dead period is that period of time when it is not permissible to make in-person recruiting contacts or evaluations on or off the member institution’s campus or to permit official or unofficial visits by prospective student-athletes to the institution’s campus."
With all the successful lawsuits against the NCAA for their attempts at restraining the comings and goings of college athletes, I can't imagine that this arbitrary designation couldn't easily be shot down if someone wanted to do so.
I'd love finding a surprise Mag on our doorstep Monday but I'm certainly not holding my breath.
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Post by aztecm on Jun 1, 2024 10:26:49 GMT -8
The dead period just means teams can’t physically host players but can still talk via phone, text, Zoom. Best guess as to why Mag hasn’t committed is there’s more schools he wants to look at but as others have said SDSU isn’t likely.
Once the dead period ends we will probably start hearing about other possible transfers visiting SDSU. Players work out individually May-June… most team stuff doesn’t start until July is my understanding.
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