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Post by sleepy on May 4, 2024 11:59:19 GMT -8
I'm sitting here watching today's Cubs game from Wrigley (really, just waiting for the Kentucky Derby to start) and they flashed to a scene in the stands of a stadium official in a bright yellow vest walking around and selling 50/50 tickets. The announcer chimes in with the current "take" for today's game: $55,000 to the winner.
Now... I am not "doing" NIL -- I feel I'm "grandfathered in" at this point with all the time, effort and money I've put in over the decades. Plus, I've got other reasons that I won't go into here, some philosophical, but foremost is that I've got a kid who deserves the money for her sports and activities long before SDSU Athletics can have a spot on this alum/season ticket holder's gravy train. I'm guessing many feel something similar. All that said, if they bring back the 50/50 drawing with SDSU's "take" going directly to NIL, I'd certainly pony-up for that, just as I did back in the early days of The Madhouse FKA Cox Arena. Ah, the pitter-patter of my heart as one of the cute cheerleaders back in those days would walk up to my seat and smile and say "Would you like to buy a 50/50 ticket?" Who could say no? It's like saying "no" to a 6 year old selling Girl Scout cookies for the first time. Good luck with that.
You got folks on here pleading for nickels and dimes. Why not get the core audience of SDSU hoops, football, and even softball enthusiasts (which draws crowds as well) involved at these various venues first-hand?
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Post by docmm on May 4, 2024 13:06:53 GMT -8
Sorry but that makes too much sense. Sounds like free money from willing givers. So there's probably some NCAA rule against it.
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Post by jdaztec on May 4, 2024 16:14:27 GMT -8
It may not generate hug sums of money but if legal it's a great idea. Good thinking Sleepy.
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Post by AzTex on May 4, 2024 16:34:46 GMT -8
I'm sitting here watching today's Cubs game from Wrigley (really, just waiting for the Kentucky Derby to start) and they flashed to a scene in the stands of a stadium official in a bright yellow vest walking around and selling 50/50 tickets. The announcer chimes in with the current "take" for today's game: $55,000 to the winner. Now... I am not "doing" NIL -- I feel I'm "grandfathered in" at this point with all the time, effort and money I've put in over the decades. Plus, I've got other reasons that I won't go into here, some philosophical, but foremost is that I've got a kid who deserves the money for her sports and activities long before SDSU Athletics can have a spot on this alum/season ticket holder's gravy train. I'm guessing many feel something similar. All that said, if they bring back the 50/50 drawing with SDSU's "take" going directly to NIL, I'd certainly pony-up for that, just as I did back in the early days of The Madhouse FKA Cox Arena. Ah, the pitter-patter of my heart as one of the cute cheerleaders back in those days would walk up to my seat and smile and say "Would you like to buy a 50/50 ticket?" Who could say no? It's like saying "no" to a 6 year old selling Girl Scout cookies for the first time. Good luck with that. You got folks on here pleading for nickels and dimes. Why not get the core audience of SDSU hoops, football, and even softball enthusiasts (which draws crowds as well) involved at these various venues first-hand? I remember the cheerleaders doing this back in the Peterson Gym days at the Volleyball and/or Basketball games (not sure which). The money, as I recall, was for the cheer squad travel, etc. |
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Post by aztecfred on May 4, 2024 16:57:33 GMT -8
I'm sitting here watching today's Cubs game from Wrigley (really, just waiting for the Kentucky Derby to start) and they flashed to a scene in the stands of a stadium official in a bright yellow vest walking around and selling 50/50 tickets. The announcer chimes in with the current "take" for today's game: $55,000 to the winner. Now... I am not "doing" NIL -- I feel I'm "grandfathered in" at this point with all the time, effort and money I've put in over the decades. Plus, I've got other reasons that I won't go into here, some philosophical, but foremost is that I've got a kid who deserves the money for her sports and activities long before SDSU Athletics can have a spot on this alum/season ticket holder's gravy train. I'm guessing many feel something similar. All that said, if they bring back the 50/50 drawing with SDSU's "take" going directly to NIL, I'd certainly pony-up for that, just as I did back in the early days of The Madhouse FKA Cox Arena. Ah, the pitter-patter of my heart as one of the cute cheerleaders back in those days would walk up to my seat and smile and say "Would you like to buy a 50/50 ticket?" Who could say no? It's like saying "no" to a 6 year old selling Girl Scout cookies for the first time. Good luck with that. You got folks on here pleading for nickels and dimes. Why not get the core audience of SDSU hoops, football, and even softball enthusiasts (which draws crowds as well) involved at these various venues first-hand? Been asking about the 50-50 raffle for years. Ne er can get answer? Won some big pots at the Sports Aroma back in the day. I know it went away just like alcohol when state stupidly banned them. Have seen them at many college venues over the last couple years. They should bring them back for whatever entity they can. |
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Post by aztecfred on May 4, 2024 16:59:01 GMT -8
I'm sitting here watching today's Cubs game from Wrigley (really, just waiting for the Kentucky Derby to start) and they flashed to a scene in the stands of a stadium official in a bright yellow vest walking around and selling 50/50 tickets. The announcer chimes in with the current "take" for today's game: $55,000 to the winner. Now... I am not "doing" NIL -- I feel I'm "grandfathered in" at this point with all the time, effort and money I've put in over the decades. Plus, I've got other reasons that I won't go into here, some philosophical, but foremost is that I've got a kid who deserves the money for her sports and activities long before SDSU Athletics can have a spot on this alum/season ticket holder's gravy train. I'm guessing many feel something similar. All that said, if they bring back the 50/50 drawing with SDSU's "take" going directly to NIL, I'd certainly pony-up for that, just as I did back in the early days of The Madhouse FKA Cox Arena. Ah, the pitter-patter of my heart as one of the cute cheerleaders back in those days would walk up to my seat and smile and say "Would you like to buy a 50/50 ticket?" Who could say no? It's like saying "no" to a 6 year old selling Girl Scout cookies for the first time. Good luck with that. You got folks on here pleading for nickels and dimes. Why not get the core audience of SDSU hoops, football, and even softball enthusiasts (which draws crowds as well) involved at these various venues first-hand? I remember the cheerleaders doing this back in the Peterson Gym days at the Volleyball and/or Basketball games (not sure which). The money, as I recall, was for the cheer squad travel, etc. At sports Arena and maybe first couple years at Cox Arena? |
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Post by AzTex on May 4, 2024 17:06:57 GMT -8
I'm sitting here watching today's Cubs game from Wrigley (really, just waiting for the Kentucky Derby to start) and they flashed to a scene in the stands of a stadium official in a bright yellow vest walking around and selling 50/50 tickets. The announcer chimes in with the current "take" for today's game: $55,000 to the winner. Now... I am not "doing" NIL -- I feel I'm "grandfathered in" at this point with all the time, effort and money I've put in over the decades. Plus, I've got other reasons that I won't go into here, some philosophical, but foremost is that I've got a kid who deserves the money for her sports and activities long before SDSU Athletics can have a spot on this alum/season ticket holder's gravy train. I'm guessing many feel something similar. All that said, if they bring back the 50/50 drawing with SDSU's "take" going directly to NIL, I'd certainly pony-up for that, just as I did back in the early days of The Madhouse FKA Cox Arena. Ah, the pitter-patter of my heart as one of the cute cheerleaders back in those days would walk up to my seat and smile and say "Would you like to buy a 50/50 ticket?" Who could say no? It's like saying "no" to a 6 year old selling Girl Scout cookies for the first time. Good luck with that. You got folks on here pleading for nickels and dimes. Why not get the core audience of SDSU hoops, football, and even softball enthusiasts (which draws crowds as well) involved at these various venues first-hand? Been asking about the 50-50 raffle for years. Ne er can get answer? Won some big pots at the Sports Aroma back in the day. I know it went away just like alcohol when state stupidly banned them. Have seen them at many college venues over the last couple years. They should bring them back for whatever entity they can. A quick Google search for "are raffles illegal in California gave the following answer regarding 50/50 raffles.
What is the 90/10 rule? Does it apply to 50/50 raffles?
Penal Code section 320.5, subdivision (b)(4)(A) states that 90 percent of the gross receipts generated by the sale
of raffle tickets for any given draw are to be used by the eligible organization for charitable purposes. For
example: An organization raised $100 in ticket sales. It would be required to spend $90 of that amount to further
its charitable purposes, and only $10 could be used to help pay for expenses or operating costs associated with
conducting the raffle.
td;dr So they aren't legal in California.
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Post by AzTex on May 4, 2024 17:07:59 GMT -8
I remember the cheerleaders doing this back in the Peterson Gym days at the Volleyball and/or Basketball games (not sure which). The money, as I recall, was for the cheer squad travel, etc. At sports Arena and maybe first couple years at Cox Arena? Could be, I just don't remember if they were. I do clearly remember them in Peterson Gym. |
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Post by aztecfred on May 4, 2024 17:29:24 GMT -8
At sports Arena and maybe first couple years at Cox Arena? Could be, I just don't remember if they were. I do clearly remember them in Peterson Gym. I won at sports arena and pretty sure at least 1 year at Cox. |
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Post by AzTex on May 4, 2024 18:04:54 GMT -8
Could be, I just don't remember if they were. I do clearly remember them in Peterson Gym. I won at sports arena and pretty sure at least 1 year at Cox. I have not doubt you're right. My old brain just doesn't have a memory of that. Two wins is impressive. I never won at Peterson. |
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on May 4, 2024 18:06:07 GMT -8
Too bad, I would like to see it come back. Heck, I just like to win and enjoy the thrill of hearing my first few numbers called. I have never won it, but I would be willing to give my half back if I did win to NIL. Let them have 100% of it and I would just be happy to say I won for once.
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Post by coolethan on May 4, 2024 18:30:23 GMT -8
No one has “grandfathered” in. Shell out some bucks or don’t expect to go final fours. You contributed to the athletic department. Not the same as NIL.
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Post by aztecfred on May 4, 2024 19:43:35 GMT -8
I won at sports arena and pretty sure at least 1 year at Cox. I have not doubt you're right. My old brain just doesn't have a memory of that. Two wins is impressive. I never won at Peterson. I won twice in one season 1st was like $350 and 2nd was $750 or so. They booed me the 2nd time. |
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Post by sleepy on May 4, 2024 19:44:51 GMT -8
No one has “grandfathered” in. Shell out some bucks or don’t expect to go final fours. You contributed to the athletic department. Not the same as NIL. lol at your deluded thinking that those of us who went during the Sports Arena, Peterson Gym, and early Cox Arena days think it's all about "the Final Four"... Who's your grandaddy?? |
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Post by coolethan on May 4, 2024 19:51:34 GMT -8
No one has “grandfathered” in. Shell out some bucks or don’t expect to go final fours. You contributed to the athletic department. Not the same as NIL. lol at your deluded thinking that those of us who went during the Sports Arena, Peterson Gym, and early Cox Arena days think it's all about "the Final Four"... Who's your grandaddy?? Enjoy being middle of the pack in the MWC! If you think being long term season ticket is enough for get a program over the top in the present environment good luck. It’s gonna take a little more from you “boomers” if we’re going to continue at the same rate of success. Money talks. |
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Post by sleepy on May 5, 2024 6:31:33 GMT -8
lol at your deluded thinking that those of us who went during the Sports Arena, Peterson Gym, and early Cox Arena days think it's all about "the Final Four"... Who's your grandaddy?? Enjoy being middle of the pack in the MWC! If you think being long term season ticket is enough for get a program over the top in the present environment good luck. It’s gonna take a little more from you “boomers” if we’re going to continue at the same rate of success. Money talks. Ah, yes... "Money talks". It seems to be the motto of today's college athlete. To which I declare, "I ain't got nothing to say to you" -- aside from the original post above which is worth tens of thousands of dollars at minimum. You got tens of thousands of dollars you're handing over to the athletic department, Skippy? Better yet... You want a guy who used to consistently worry about finishing bottom of the barrel in the WAC playing in the Sports Arena tumbleweeds to worry about finishing "middle of the pack in the MWC" in a palace like Viejas? BWA HA HA HA HA!! You got jokes! |
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Post by sleepy on May 5, 2024 7:43:40 GMT -8
Been asking about the 50-50 raffle for years. Ne er can get answer? Won some big pots at the Sports Aroma back in the day. I know it went away just like alcohol when state stupidly banned them. Have seen them at many college venues over the last couple years. They should bring them back for whatever entity they can. A quick Google search for "are raffles illegal in California gave the following answer regarding 50/50 raffles. What is the 90/10 rule? Does it apply to 50/50 raffles?
Penal Code section 320.5, subdivision (b)(4)(A) states that 90 percent of the gross receipts generated by the sale
of raffle tickets for any given draw are to be used by the eligible organization for charitable purposes. For
example: An organization raised $100 in ticket sales. It would be required to spend $90 of that amount to further
its charitable purposes, and only $10 could be used to help pay for expenses or operating costs associated with
conducting the raffle.
td;dr So they aren't legal in California.
You gotta help me with the reading comprehension on that, Tex. I've got a different reading of it -- like, if they sold $100 worth of tickets at a given hoops game, then, e.g, NIL could keep $90 while $10 would go to, I guess, the expense of buying a roll of those tickets, and the gas or shipping to procure same? Maybe one of the legal minds here (I was a lowly lit paralegal, so what do I know?) can chime in. I gotta be missing something. |
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Post by sleepy on May 5, 2024 8:09:39 GMT -8
Further on the legality...
My kid belongs to a amateur youth sports organization that does them all of the time. In California.
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Post by aztecfred on May 5, 2024 8:47:42 GMT -8
Further on the legality... My kid belongs to a amateur youth sports organization that does them all of the time. In California. Exactly!! Hope it is not just the usual lack of vision or initiative by the powers the be? Stepping over dollars to pick up dimes? |
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Post by AzTex on May 5, 2024 9:24:05 GMT -8
A quick Google search for "are raffles illegal in California gave the following answer regarding 50/50 raffles. What is the 90/10 rule? Does it apply to 50/50 raffles?
Penal Code section 320.5, subdivision (b)(4)(A) states that 90 percent of the gross receipts generated by the sale
of raffle tickets for any given draw are to be used by the eligible organization for charitable purposes. For
example: An organization raised $100 in ticket sales. It would be required to spend $90 of that amount to further
its charitable purposes, and only $10 could be used to help pay for expenses or operating costs associated with
conducting the raffle.
td;dr So they aren't legal in California.
You gotta help me with the reading comprehension on that, Tex. I've got a different reading of it -- like, if they sold $100 worth of tickets at a given hoops game, then, e.g, NIL could keep $90 while $10 would go to, I guess, the expense of buying a roll of those tickets, and the gas or shipping to procure same? Maybe one of the legal minds here (I was a lowly lit paralegal, so what do I know?) can chime in. I gotta be missing something. The quote was from from FAQs From the CA State Office of the Attorney General. LINK
It goes on to say, "The 90/10 rule applies to 50/50 raffles, in which 50 percent of ticket-sale revenue is awarded as the prize and 50 percent of the revenue is retained by the organization conducting the raffle. 50/50 raffles are illegal because 90 percent of the gross ticket-sale revenue is not used for charitable purposes."
The fact that some people are doing it and getting away with it doesn't mean it's legal. The State would probably not bother with a small youth league. But a NIL cooperative paying out hundreds of thousands would likely be caught.
Interestingly, the California Lottery uses 50% of it's proceeds for prizes. Always remember the Golden Rule, he who has the gold makes the rules.
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