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Post by Cwag on Apr 26, 2024 16:58:44 GMT -8
If true, then I believe, the dad, with more life experiences and trying to advise son, take the money (bird in hand), as there are few sure things in life are. Two I can name are: 1. Family 2. Money Those are what matter, when all said and done, at the end of the day (or on your death bed). Lamont and Keshad will always be welcomed in SD and SDSU. Let's not forget in the pros, players switch teams like a swinger party -- it's just a natural part of the game, these days. Don't hate the players, hate the game?  I’ll disagree. Legacy is something money can’t buy. If Lamont stayed and really went off next year and led SDSU to another deep run in the tournament he would have been an all time great with a key to the city and his jersey retired to the rafters. Now there is no chance of that. He will have a few hundred grand extra than what he would have made at SDSU. That will get spent and be gone. Everyone has different priorities but loyalty and legacy should be at the top of the list. Maybe he will invest the 300-500K wisely and in a few years have a nice investment for his future. He can then come back to San Diego and start a counseling business to help fans with NIL trauma. |
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Post by AzTex on Apr 26, 2024 16:59:47 GMT -8
From what I’ve heard it was his dad pushing him to leave since after the title game. Lamont probably may stayed if not for him pushing for it. If true, then I believe, the dad, with more life experiences and trying to advise son, take the money (bird in hand), as there are few sure things in life are. Two I can name are: 1. Family 2. Money Those are what matter, when all said and done, at the end of the day (or on your death bed). Lamont and Keshad will always be welcomed in SD and SDSU. Let's not forget in the pros, players switch teams like a swinger party -- it's just a natural part of the game, these days. Don't hate the players, hate the game? Had Butler decided to go pro instead of staying for his extra Covid year I wouldn't have blinked. Leaving to go to another school for money just isn't the student/athlete, college sports that I grew up with. I don't hate the player, but I do hate what the game has become. |
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Post by Gundo on Apr 26, 2024 17:01:22 GMT -8
Do you all remember Curt Flood? Flood demanded that Baseball Commissioner Bowie Kuhn declare him a free agent: December 24, 1969. "After twelve years in the major leagues, I do not feel I am a piece of property to be bought and sold irrespective of my wishes." That lead to trade clauses and eventually free agency.
Or how about the lawsuit, which former UCLA basketball player Ed O'Bannon filed on behalf of the NCAA's Division I football and men's basketball players, challenged the organization's use of the images and the likeness of its former student-athletes for commercial purposes?
Three years ago, in June 2021, the NCAA responded by implementing an interim policy on name, image, and likeness, or NIL, allowing student-athletes to make money from their personal brand, who knew it would lead to multi-million dollar paychecks.
And now it can be a bit complex to navigate, NIL laws vary by state, meaning each state may or may not have its own NIL regulations.
Right now, it’s the wild, wild West, and Jeanie is out of the bottle. There is no way to put it back in, but I feel that the NCAA should/could regulate it a little more.
And now, collectives are throwing out life-changing payouts, which is good for football & basketball players and television, and bad for medium to smaller schools, alumni, fans, Olympic sports, and the college sports landscape in general.
The writing has been on the wall for a long time, a very long time.
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Post by laaztec on Apr 26, 2024 17:02:57 GMT -8
I’ll disagree. Legacy is something money can’t buy. If Lamont stayed and really went off next year and led SDSU to another deep run in the tournament he would have been an all time great with a key to the city and his jersey retired to the rafters. Now there is no chance of that. He will have a few hundred grand extra than what he would have made at SDSU. That will get spent and be gone. Everyone has different priorities but loyalty and legacy should be at the top of the list. Maybe he will invest the 300-500K wisely and in a few years have a nice investment for his future. He can then come back to San Diego and start a counseling business to help fans with NIL trauma. You mean the extra 200k? With taxes and inflation that will be gone in a year. |
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Post by laaztec on Apr 26, 2024 17:05:22 GMT -8
Wildcat for life.
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Post by chris92065 on Apr 26, 2024 17:09:03 GMT -8
Relax people.
It's clear:
1. Dutch wasn't going above 200k
2. Butler will never sniff the NBA.
3. Butler wasn't going to get 400k playing anywhere.
4. He has 1 year left to get paid.
Get paid while you can.
Good luck, Lamont.
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Post by laaztec on Apr 26, 2024 17:14:58 GMT -8
Enjoy
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Apr 26, 2024 17:55:41 GMT -8
If I'm Butler I take the payday and go to Kentucky. NIL and the transfer rules have ruined college basketball. You can't be mad at the players for a screwed up system. He won't make much (if any) NBA money, so if I'm him I absolutely make the money while I can. I haven't read through the entire thread, but do we know how much he got paid? If it's 700k or something, that's life changing dollars if well invested/managed
I still don't like him leaving, but I can't fault him for it. He's also responsible for some incredible memories and was a key player who took our Aztecs to the national championship... Something I thought was just a pipe dream for our program (plus the S16 this past year) so I think he's given us more than enough
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Post by Cwag on Apr 26, 2024 18:01:19 GMT -8
Maybe he will invest the 300-500K wisely and in a few years have a nice investment for his future. He can then come back to San Diego and start a counseling business to help fans with NIL trauma. You mean the extra 200k? With taxes and inflation that will be gone in a year. Are you sure you’re not Debbie Downer is disguise? |
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Post by laaztec on Apr 26, 2024 18:06:49 GMT -8
You mean the extra 200k? With taxes and inflation that will be gone in a year. Are you sure you’re not Debbie Downer is disguise? Just on this topic. It’s just my opinion. |
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Post by mySTRAS on Apr 26, 2024 18:18:02 GMT -8
Absolutely nothing wrong with taking the $$$ and running off to Kentucky... but let's be honest... As a HS recruit, we were all taken in by the 'Lamont broke Reggie Miller's HS scoring record' narrative. He is a career 7.7 ppg player on 41/32/68 shooting. His Final Four game-winner will go down as the greatest shot in SDSU history, for all-time. Then we all held our breath as he tested the NBA waters. We all breathed a sigh of relief when he came back and we expected greatness for his senior season. With unrealistic fan expectations, he greatly disappointed. At Kentucky, I can see Wildcat fans getting excited over a few midnight madness highlight-reel dunks... and then being disappointed as he squares up with SEC competition. Lamont is a great kid (young man). Take those $$$ and spend/invest wisely. He is going to be just fine in life, whether or not he might have to pay for drinks in San Diego. |
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Post by CbLsD on Apr 26, 2024 18:26:18 GMT -8
Who cares, it’s over, he’s gone. Time to focus on what we have which I’m getting excited about.
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Post by couldashoulda on Apr 26, 2024 18:32:05 GMT -8
Relax people. It's clear: 1. Dutch wasn't going above 200k 2. Butler will never sniff the NBA. 3. Butler wasn't going to get 400k playing anywhere. 4. He has 1 year left to get paid. Get paid while you can. Good luck, Lamont. Fully with ya on #2. Not NBA material. But, he can definitely go overseas and get paid...and probably more than 400K. |
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Post by campanile on Apr 26, 2024 19:04:20 GMT -8
Is Lamont Butler on track to get his degree in May?
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Post by heuschele on Apr 26, 2024 19:19:05 GMT -8
First thing we can do is stop calling players that leave for money Aztecs for life. And don’t give me the “Better shot at the NBA” garbage either. SDSU gets plenty of players drafted and playing in the NBA. That excuse is just a cover for leaving for cash. Former Kentucky Players in the NBA = 28, Former San Diego State players in the NBA = 3 I do not think your numbers are making the case you believe it is. How many 5 star recruits has Kentucky had over last 15 years versus how many sdsu has had. I suspect it is more than the 28 to 3 ratio. By your numbers, SDSU has done more to create NBA players. Go Aztecs |
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Post by mySTRAS on Apr 26, 2024 19:31:33 GMT -8
Former Kentucky Players in the NBA = 28, Former San Diego State players in the NBA = 3 I do not think your numbers are making the case you believe it is. How many 5 star recruits has Kentucky had over last 15 years versus how many sdsu has had. I suspect it is more than the 28 to 3 ratio. By your numbers, SDSU has done more to create NBA players. Go Aztecs We haven't had a single Top 100 recruit since Germ. I've never understood why so many people praise Calipari or Coach K for 'coaching up' players to The League. It just doesn't work that way. If anything, Kentucky and Duke et al have underperformed given all the NBA-ready blue-chip talent that steps foot on campus. |
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Post by aztecking on Apr 26, 2024 21:30:40 GMT -8
Took a perusal of that thread, lots of ragging on Butler. Many disappointed in landing him and hoping he’s a bench piece, not a starter. Hope the extra money in the bank makes his final season with an unappreciative fan base better than being where he’s beloved. So be it. Time to move on and find a better replacement. Never liked Kentucky so I hope they exit in the first round as a big favorite again. |
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Post by montezumaduck on Apr 27, 2024 1:40:19 GMT -8
We'll see what comes out, but I have a good friend who is a UK alum who thought it was $500-600k
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Post by bobcooper84 on Apr 27, 2024 5:48:02 GMT -8
Kentucky hasn't EARNED a birth into the sweet 16 since 2019..... Last I checked, the Aztecs have qualified twice since 2019..... What do Kentucky fans know?  |
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Post by aztecdan8 on Apr 27, 2024 6:32:23 GMT -8
Being a school that develops talent and feeds into blue bloods (Arizona, Kentucky) is just a natural evolution of our program. Look at the bright side. Kids will come here, as HS or Transfers, then work their way up to Power 4 or Power 2 programs. We will make adjustments, with the changing landscape. That’s not a bright side. 🤦🏻♂️ |
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