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Post by aztecanthony on Apr 23, 2024 8:41:40 GMT -8
I’m not hearing or seeing anyone talk about this guy? He’s 7ft athletic, and can block shots. Dutcher spoke highly about his athletic ability, runs the court very well for a 7 footer, etc. In the same article Ladee said we was tough to move, get position on. A good friend of mine saw him play in the Summer league last year prior to breaking his ankle, he tells me that Magoon looked very good with a smooth outside shot, he spoke highly of his play. Why is everyone assuming we need a center 5 when we have Mr Gwath waiting in the wings? Anyone have insight?
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Post by aztecking on Apr 23, 2024 8:44:04 GMT -8
Because he’s never played a minute of college ball and we usually want more experience starting there rather than throwing an inexperienced guy into the fire.
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Post by aztecm on Apr 23, 2024 8:57:59 GMT -8
Hasn’t played an actual competitive game in a year and a half, no college experience, and even with a year of training still is working to add muscle. Just because your 7ft also doesn’t make you a center, depending what happens with transfers and based off his reported skill set we may see more PF from him. I think the hype will be real but it’s going to take additional development and I would also love to be wrong.
Dutch and staff would be actively hunting veteran bigs if he was ready for major mins.
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Post by aztech on Apr 23, 2024 10:04:07 GMT -8
Hasn’t played an actual competitive game in a year and a half, no college experience, and even with a year of training still is working to add muscle. Just because your 7ft also doesn’t make you a center, depending what happens with transfers and based off his reported skill set we may see more PF from him. I think the hype will be real but it’s going to take additional development and I would also love to be wrong. Dutch and staff would be actively hunting veteran bigs if he was ready for major mins. That's why we have OOC games, to see what he's got. If Dutcher is high on him, so should we. Remember Chet Holmgren from Gonzaga? He's still not quite 200lbs, yet he's holding his own in the NBA. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Apr 23, 2024 10:09:06 GMT -8
Many years ago the staff learned to advance in the NCAA Tournament you need to have some guys with muscle. Having a 190 pound center probably won’t cut it. Why go backwards on something you’ve already learned.
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Post by aztecfred on Apr 23, 2024 10:15:16 GMT -8
Also big guys with feet problems, you ne er know?
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Post by aztecanthony on Apr 23, 2024 10:28:14 GMT -8
Many years ago the staff learned to advance in the NCAA Tournament you need to have some guys with muscle. Having a 190 pound center probably won’t cut it. Why go backwards on something you’ve already learned. I’ve seen him listed at 220 lbs, he finishes sprints near the front, blocks shots, you can’t teach 7ft and athletic. Akeem Olajuwon was once and unknown former soccer player, maybe Magoon can follow in his footsteps, wouldn’t that be amazing? Aztecs could win it all!! |
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Post by standiego on Apr 23, 2024 11:06:22 GMT -8
not sure if there is an update on the amount of his lbs.
also not sure how much basketball experience he has during HS or even middle school
when he signed with SDSU was projected to be a 4
he did get some decent practice this past season going against Ledee
Heide is liked by the staff but will need a good amount of development
while the MW loses some decent guys down low - Lobos do have a very good center coming back that will be a challenge - trying to remember UNLV's 5 and Reno's
Experience does help and SDSU is quite inexperienced at the 5 so there is a need to add one
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Post by aztecm on Apr 23, 2024 11:17:29 GMT -8
Hasn’t played an actual competitive game in a year and a half, no college experience, and even with a year of training still is working to add muscle. Just because your 7ft also doesn’t make you a center, depending what happens with transfers and based off his reported skill set we may see more PF from him. I think the hype will be real but it’s going to take additional development and I would also love to be wrong. Dutch and staff would be actively hunting veteran bigs if he was ready for major mins. That's why we have OOC games, to see what he's got. If Dutcher is high on him, so should we. Remember Chet Holmgren from Gonzaga? He's still not quite 200lbs, yet he's holding his own in the NBA. You could argue OOC has become more important that conference games, mostly due to how bad our conference typically is. If you want to compare Magoon to Chet coming into college, at this point, there's a decent probability you'll be disappointed. Chet was the #1 recruit coming out of high school and already had a polished offensive game to go along with great defensive instincts. I think/hope Magoon will be great but it's likely to take time. I defer to the coach's that watch him day in and day out and they're actively trying to bring in veteran bigs. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 23, 2024 11:43:00 GMT -8
Chet came into college as one of the better HS recruits - so two very different scenarios
will say that if there are high expectations for a HS recruit coming to SDSU it maybe Compton who is seen as a physical PF
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Post by fisherville on Apr 23, 2024 13:09:15 GMT -8
Many years ago the staff learned to advance in the NCAA Tournament you need to have some guys with muscle. Having a 190 pound center probably won’t cut it. Why go backwards on something you’ve already learned. There is no 1 special formula to win in the tourney, teams of very different styles win/lose in the tourney all the time |
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 23, 2024 13:18:53 GMT -8
I’m not hearing or seeing anyone talk about this guy? He’s 7ft athletic, and can block shots. Dutcher spoke highly about his athletic ability, runs the court very well for a 7 footer, etc. In the same article Ladee said we was tough to move, get position on. A good friend of mine saw him play in the Summer league last year prior to breaking his ankle, he tells me that Magoon looked very good with a smooth outside shot, he spoke highly of his play. Why is everyone assuming we need a center 5 when we have Mr Gwath waiting in the wings? Anyone have insight? I think that we want a 4 or a 5. We have Gwath, Heide and Saunders. If we get a transfer 5, Gwath plays the 4. If we get a transfer 4 Gwath plays the 5. I'm in the camp that would prefer to see Gwath at the 5, who also sees Gwath as a big contributor next year. Whoever we get as a transfer (IMO) should either be able to make 3's to stretch the floor if they are a PF, or should be at least be a shot blocker if they are a C. |
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Post by AzTex on Apr 23, 2024 14:08:10 GMT -8
I’m not hearing or seeing anyone talk about this guy? He’s 7ft athletic, and can block shots. Dutcher spoke highly about his athletic ability, runs the court very well for a 7 footer, etc. In the same article Ladee said we was tough to move, get position on. A good friend of mine saw him play in the Summer league last year prior to breaking his ankle, he tells me that Magoon looked very good with a smooth outside shot, he spoke highly of his play. Why is everyone assuming we need a center 5 when we have Mr Gwath waiting in the wings? Anyone have insight? I think that we want a 4 or a 5. We have Gwath, Heide and Saunders. If we get a transfer 5, Gwath plays the 4. If we get a transfer 4 Gwath plays the 5. I'm in the camp that would prefer to see Gwath at the 5, who also sees Gwath as a big contributor next year.Whoever we get as a transfer (IMO) should either be able to make 3's to stretch the floor if they are a PF, or should be at least be a shot blocker if they are a C. The one thing I know about Gwath's potential is from earlier in the season when he was recovered from the surgery but the decision had been made to red shirt him. Even with the decision to red shirt, Dutcher warned the staff that if they suited Gwath for a game Dutcher might just put him in anyway. |
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Post by longtimebooster on Apr 24, 2024 6:25:05 GMT -8
I’m not hearing or seeing anyone talk about this guy? He’s 7ft athletic, and can block shots. Dutcher spoke highly about his athletic ability, runs the court very well for a 7 footer, etc. In the same article Ladee said we was tough to move, get position on. A good friend of mine saw him play in the Summer league last year prior to breaking his ankle, he tells me that Magoon looked very good with a smooth outside shot, he spoke highly of his play. Why is everyone assuming we need a center 5 when we have Mr Gwath waiting in the wings? Anyone have insight? Must not have read some of my psots. I've been honking about Gwath all season. Heck, I thought Dutcher should've rolled the dice and started playing him this past season sometime in Jan/Feb. It was obvious to me (and I'm sure a lot of fans and coaches) that LeDee couldn't carry the team all on his own. Gwath could've been a huge difference maker if paired with LeDee. He was definitely one of the missing pieces on last season's squad -- along with a quadrant of players who suddenly couldn't shoot threes with any consistently. Having said that, I'm sure the coaches were correct in their decision to give Gwath another year to learn the system, bulk up and make sure his surgically repaired ankle was good to go. I, for one, am looking for big things from Gwath next season. |
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Post by CbLsD on Apr 24, 2024 7:04:40 GMT -8
He already has the coolest name in CBB.
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Apr 24, 2024 7:11:50 GMT -8
I’m not hearing or seeing anyone talk about this guy? He’s 7ft athletic, and can block shots. Dutcher spoke highly about his athletic ability, runs the court very well for a 7 footer, etc. In the same article Ladee said we was tough to move, get position on. A good friend of mine saw him play in the Summer league last year prior to breaking his ankle, he tells me that Magoon looked very good with a smooth outside shot, he spoke highly of his play. Why is everyone assuming we need a center 5 when we have Mr Gwath waiting in the wings? Anyone have insight? Must not have read some of my psots. I've been honking about Gwath all season. Heck, I thought Dutcher should've rolled the dice and statrted playing him this past season sometime in Jan/Feb. It was obvious to me (and I'm sure a lot of fans and coaches) that LeDee couldn't carry the team all on his own. Gwath could've been a huge difference maker if paired with LeDee. He was definitely one of the missing pieces on last season's squad -- along with a quadrant of players who suddenly couldn't shoot threes with any consistently. Having said that, I'm sure the coaches were correct in their decision to give Gwath another year to learn the system, bulk up and make sure his surgically repaired ankle was good to go. I, for one, am looking for big things from Gwath next season. Been saying the same things. Gwath is more like Jalen McDanials than Mensa. Also, he had to have screws put in, doubt that the doctors would let him even get into shape by Jan/Feb. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 24, 2024 10:16:18 GMT -8
it sure sounds that Dutcher has been looking at trying to get an experienced 5 from the Portal - the current roster has very little experience at the 5 with Heide having the most .
The staff does have their thoughts on where MG might be most effective but will still be playing his first season of college ball . in addition not sure of how much HS ?
Shay is a back up if that
Not much information about the new HS 7 ft player coming in but think he also has slight frame and not much HS experience
SDSU has Saunders entering his third season but has basically been more reserve then starter and seems to want to play more on the perimeter
Think Compton is coming in with a good amount of HS experience and solid frame at the 4
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Post by aztech on Apr 24, 2024 10:53:23 GMT -8
Must not have read some of my psots. I've been honking about Gwath all season. Heck, I thought Dutcher should've rolled the dice and statrted playing him this past season sometime in Jan/Feb. It was obvious to me (and I'm sure a lot of fans and coaches) that LeDee couldn't carry the team all on his own. Gwath could've been a huge difference maker if paired with LeDee. He was definitely one of the missing pieces on last season's squad -- along with a quadrant of players who suddenly couldn't shoot threes with any consistently. Having said that, I'm sure the coaches were correct in their decision to give Gwath another year to learn the system, bulk up and make sure his surgically repaired ankle was good to go. I, for one, am looking for big things from Gwath next season. Been saying the same things. Gwath is more like Jalen McDanials than Mensa. Also, he had to have screws put in, doubt that the doctors would let him even get into shape by Jan/Feb. How stable is his ankle in the long term? Having to put a screw(s) in it could be a bad omen, especially if he puts on some weight. |
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