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Post by aztecryan on Jul 8, 2024 10:57:04 GMT -8
"Brainwashed lemming." Oh, wait, that wasn't me, that was in response to the original comment made by the same guy you're quoting now. Eyeroll. Were you a stalker in a previous life or is this something new for you? Can you just deal with reality? Or don't, it's fine. Your question is both weird and unrelated to what we're talking about. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 8, 2024 12:36:42 GMT -8
Go ahead and enlighten me. I'm not that bright, remember? Why was Trump a stronger/better incumbent? I'll try again, for the sake of simplicity. - Trump wasn't 81 years old. - Trump had the overwhelming support of his party. There weren't several different mini-factions feuding amongst themselves to try and find alternatives. Party unification is a huuuuuuuge deal. - COVID and the economy in general. Trump's favorabilty rating at the end of his presidency was 34%, but his handling of the pandemic was disproportionately not as affected. To be clear: Both incumbents were/are very, very weak from a historical perspective. Biden's age has been splattered all over every single news publication, which has amplified public distrust in his ability to serve a second term. Trump's benefit, as stated before, is time has passed enough to where people don't remember the downturns nearly as much. Trump was absolutely destroyed by the Media for how he handled COVID. His Vice President, Generals, etc, all turned against him. The Media was against the whole 4 years he was in office, and to this day. He divided the Nation. Biden, according to you, had the best 1st term in Modern History. Yes, he is just now getting extreme backlash for his age and health, something akin to what Trump with through for his handling of COVID, although Trump was torn to shreds by the Media his whole tenure, not Biden. There's much more, but I think you know. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 8, 2024 12:46:20 GMT -8
I'll try again, for the sake of simplicity. - Trump wasn't 81 years old. - Trump had the overwhelming support of his party. There weren't several different mini-factions feuding amongst themselves to try and find alternatives. Party unification is a huuuuuuuge deal. - COVID and the economy in general. Trump's favorabilty rating at the end of his presidency was 34%, but his handling of the pandemic was disproportionately not as affected. To be clear: Both incumbents were/are very, very weak from a historical perspective. Biden's age has been splattered all over every single news publication, which has amplified public distrust in his ability to serve a second term. Trump's benefit, as stated before, is time has passed enough to where people don't remember the downturns nearly as much. Trump was absolutely destroyed by the Media for how he handled COVID. His Vice President, Generals, etc, all turned against him. The Media was against the whole 4 years he was in office, and to this day. He divided the Nation. Biden, according to you, had the best 1st term in Modern History. Yes, he is just now getting extreme backlash for his age and health, something akin that Trump with through for his handling of COVID, although Trump was torn to shreds by the Media his whole tenure, not Biden. There's much more, but I think you know. Then why isn't the media reporting about anything Trump...for several weeks now? We've heard from various sources what I believe is likely true: They've normalized Trump's behavior to such a degree that it's no longer considered newsworthy or relevant. He hasn't appeared at an event in nearly two weeks, Biden has done 18 appearances in 10 days. We're also talking about different things here: Biden gets no credit for his accomplishments in office through the eyes of *voters.* People casting ballots. Viewing incumbent advantages needs to be looked at through the lens of those actually doing the voting. And yes, I do know. I disagree. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 8, 2024 12:55:16 GMT -8
I'll try again, for the sake of simplicity. - Trump wasn't 81 years old. - Trump had the overwhelming support of his party. There weren't several different mini-factions feuding amongst themselves to try and find alternatives. Party unification is a huuuuuuuge deal. - COVID and the economy in general. Trump's favorabilty rating at the end of his presidency was 34%, but his handling of the pandemic was disproportionately not as affected. To be clear: Both incumbents were/are very, very weak from a historical perspective. Biden's age has been splattered all over every single news publication, which has amplified public distrust in his ability to serve a second term. Trump's benefit, as stated before, is time has passed enough to where people don't remember the downturns nearly as much. Trump was absolutely destroyed by the Media for how he handled COVID. His Vice President, Generals, etc, all turned against him. The Media was against the whole 4 years he was in office, and to this day. He divided the Nation. Biden, according to you, had the best 1st term in Modern History. Yes, he is just now getting extreme backlash for his age and health, something akin that Trump with through for his handling of COVID, although Trump was torn to shreds by the Media his whole tenure, not Biden. There's much more, but I think you know. Trump's own inner circle turned against him because they finally discovered what an inherent danger he posed to the country. He was (rightfully) blasted for his handling of the pandemic because he undermined public health with his policy decisions at every turn. Actions have consequences. And yet, he's getting a free pass right now, as legacy media has turned on Biden post-debate, engineering fake stories and amplifying division. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 8, 2024 13:31:37 GMT -8
Trump was absolutely destroyed by the Media for how he handled COVID. His Vice President, Generals, etc, all turned against him. The Media was against the whole 4 years he was in office, and to this day. He divided the Nation. Biden, according to you, had the best 1st term in Modern History. Yes, he is just now getting extreme backlash for his age and health, something akin that Trump with through for his handling of COVID, although Trump was torn to shreds by the Media his whole tenure, not Biden. There's much more, but I think you know. Then why isn't the media reporting about anything Trump...for several weeks now? We've heard from various sources what I believe is likely true: They've normalized Trump's behavior to such a degree that it's no longer considered newsworthy or relevant. He hasn't appeared at an event in nearly two weeks, Biden has done 18 appearances in 10 days. We're also talking about different things here: Biden gets no credit for his accomplishments in office through the eyes of *voters.* People casting ballots. Viewing incumbent advantages needs to be looked at through the lens of those actually doing the voting. And yes, I do know. I disagree. I'm guessing, but Trump's thought process may be to let Biden bury himself deeper by merely speaking more. Not saying that's working. If I'm Trump, I'm simply letting the debate catastrophe for Biden, keep marinating. Keep talking about Biden, and that he needs a replacement. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 8, 2024 13:43:19 GMT -8
Then why isn't the media reporting about anything Trump...for several weeks now? We've heard from various sources what I believe is likely true: They've normalized Trump's behavior to such a degree that it's no longer considered newsworthy or relevant. He hasn't appeared at an event in nearly two weeks, Biden has done 18 appearances in 10 days. We're also talking about different things here: Biden gets no credit for his accomplishments in office through the eyes of *voters.* People casting ballots. Viewing incumbent advantages needs to be looked at through the lens of those actually doing the voting. And yes, I do know. I disagree. I'm guessing, but Trump's thought process may be to let Biden bury himself deeper by merely speaking more. Not saying that's working. If I'm Trump, I'm simply letting the debate catastrophe for Biden, keep marinating. Keep talking about Biden is and that he needs a replacement. Which might work until Project 2025 finally becomes a mainstream idea.and people wake up to the ideas of right-wing fanaticism. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 8, 2024 13:46:30 GMT -8
I'm guessing, but Trump's thought process may be to let Biden bury himself deeper by merely speaking more. Not saying that's working. If I'm Trump, I'm simply letting the debate catastrophe for Biden, keep marinating. Keep talking about Biden is and that he needs a replacement. Which might work until Project 2025 finally becomes a mainstream idea.and people wake up to the ideas of right-wing fanaticism. then...the real revolution starts. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 8, 2024 14:00:00 GMT -8
Which might work until Project 2025 finally becomes a mainstream idea.and people wake up to the ideas of right-wing fanaticism. then...the real revolution starts. Needed. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 8, 2024 15:56:10 GMT -8
Schumer, AOC and Jeffries have endorsed Biden. For all intents and purposes, he's the nominee. Now, it becomes about unification and circling the wagons.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 8, 2024 22:31:46 GMT -8
Trump was absolutely destroyed by the Media for how he handled COVID. His Vice President, Generals, etc, all turned against him. The Media was against the whole 4 years he was in office, and to this day. He divided the Nation. Biden, according to you, had the best 1st term in Modern History. Yes, he is just now getting extreme backlash for his age and health, something akin that Trump with through for his handling of COVID, although Trump was torn to shreds by the Media his whole tenure, not Biden. There's much more, but I think you know. Trump's own inner circle turned against him because they finally discovered what an inherent danger he posed to the country. He was (rightfully) blasted for his handling of the pandemic because he undermined public health with his policy decisions at every turn. Actions have consequences. And yet, he's getting a free pass right now, as legacy media has turned on Biden post-debate, engineering fake stories and amplifying division. I think they're panicking with Biden, thinking he's going to be defeated in the election. I don't think people have forgotten Trump's deficiencies. They've hammered that home for four years, and before that, as well. I think Biden's debate and situation is so bad, they're simply in emergency mode, right or wrong that's what they're thinking. They certainly don't want Trump to win. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 9, 2024 7:06:55 GMT -8
Trump's own inner circle turned against him because they finally discovered what an inherent danger he posed to the country. He was (rightfully) blasted for his handling of the pandemic because he undermined public health with his policy decisions at every turn. Actions have consequences. And yet, he's getting a free pass right now, as legacy media has turned on Biden post-debate, engineering fake stories and amplifying division. I think they're panicking with Biden, thinking he's going to be defeated in the election. I don't think people have forgotten Trump's deficiencies. They've hammered that home for four years, and before that, as well. I think Biden's debate and situation is so bad, they're simply in emergency mode, right or wrong that's what they're thinking. They certainly don't want Trump to win. I mean, this is easily disproven. Trump had a 34% approval rating when he left office. Yet, when voters were surveyed, 51% said he did a good job while in office, just last week. He was picked as "more effective on national security issues" (even though he's under indictment for being a national security risk) and "tougher on China" for some reason, even though he raked in millions of dollars from the Chinese during his term. People have forgotten. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 9, 2024 7:55:25 GMT -8
I think they're panicking with Biden, thinking he's going to be defeated in the election. I don't think people have forgotten Trump's deficiencies. They've hammered that home for four years, and before that, as well. I think Biden's debate and situation is so bad, they're simply in emergency mode, right or wrong that's what they're thinking. They certainly don't want Trump to win. I mean, this is easily disproven. Trump had a 34% approval rating when he left office. Yet, when voters were surveyed, 51% said he did a good job while in office, just last week. He was picked as "more effective on national security issues" (even though he's under indictment for being a national security risk) and "tougher on China" for some reason, even though he raked in millions of dollars from the Chinese during his term. People have forgotten. Well, Vladimir says he thinks "trump is sincere in wanting to end Ukraine war". Vlad working hard to get orange blank elected. Easy when 40% of the American public is dumb as a rock. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Jul 9, 2024 8:46:09 GMT -8
Trump is back campaigning today, speaking to crowds in Miami Florida.
Going back to the 2020 campaign for the Democrats it was all about beating Trump, and none of their candidates looked like they could do it other than Joe Biden. The question of was Joe Biden up to the job and demands of being president was not relevant to these people. The “smoke filled room” of Dem leadership just wanted to beat Trump. Thats how we got Joe Biden as president, he was kind of an afterthought rather than the obvious choice. The results have been, at least from my perspective, a weak candidate with lamebrain WOKE policies. These policies have allowed 15 million illegals to flood over our southern border, high gas and energy prices, high inflation, continued ballooning of our national debt, instability and wars overseas along with the weaponization of our legal and justice systems against political rivals.
A total political disaster.
The current state of our president’s mental facilities is also a dangerous situation. President Biden has had a long political career, it is time for him to hang it up and set aside the temptations of political power, just like George Washington or Cincinatus.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 9, 2024 8:49:26 GMT -8
I think they're panicking with Biden, thinking he's going to be defeated in the election. I don't think people have forgotten Trump's deficiencies. They've hammered that home for four years, and before that, as well. I think Biden's debate and situation is so bad, they're simply in emergency mode, right or wrong that's what they're thinking. They certainly don't want Trump to win. I mean, this is easily disproven. Trump had a 34% approval rating when he left office. Yet, when voters were surveyed, 51% said he did a good job while in office, just last week. He was picked as "more effective on national security issues" (even though he's under indictment for being a national security risk) and "tougher on China" for some reason, even though he raked in millions of dollars from the Chinese during his term. People have forgotten. Biden also won the popular vote, something you harp on, as well as Hillary. Overall, the Country sees Trump as the weaker candidate. Debating over which one of the two candidates is weaker, is like debating which one of the two is worse, Hitler or Stalin. They're both horrible, but in a different way. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 9, 2024 8:58:24 GMT -8
Trump is back campaigning today, speaking to crowds in Miami Florida. Going back to the 2020 campaign for the Democrats it was all about beating Trump, and none of their candidates looked like they could do it other than Joe Biden, whether Joe Biden was up to the job and demands of being president was not relevant to these people, the “smoke filled room” of Dem leadership just wanted to beat Trump. Thats how we got Joe Biden as president. The results have been, at least from my perspective a weak candidate with lamebrain WOKE policies which have allowed 15 million illegals to flood over our southern border, high gas and energy prices, high inflation, continued ballooning of our national debt, instability and wars overseas along with the weaponization of our legal and justice systems against political rivals. The current state of our presidents mental facilities is also a dangerous situation. President Biden has had a long political career, it is time for him to hang it up and set aside the temptations of political power, just like George Washington or Cincinatus. Do you ever, ever, ever get tired of repeating the same jargon? Now the number is "15 million." False. I know, you hate immigrants. It'll be okay. High energy and gas prices. For the zillionth time, gas prices have nothing to do with the president. Zero. Oil is a global commodity, where prices are set by supply and demand. Take an econ course, please. Inflation is no longer "high." It hasn't been "high" in two years. Inflation started because of the pandemic relief efforts. When a government prints money to hand out relief, inflation happens. When supply chains are interrupted, inflation happens. I'm starting to wonder if you're high, frankly. I assume you didn't care about the national debt four years ago. Coincidence, right? Boring. And no, the only person who should "hang it up" is the morbidly obese geriatric who disgraced our country for four years and made America the laughingstock of the world. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 9, 2024 9:04:44 GMT -8
I mean, this is easily disproven. Trump had a 34% approval rating when he left office. Yet, when voters were surveyed, 51% said he did a good job while in office, just last week. He was picked as "more effective on national security issues" (even though he's under indictment for being a national security risk) and "tougher on China" for some reason, even though he raked in millions of dollars from the Chinese during his term. People have forgotten. Biden also won the popular vote, something you harp on, as well as Hillary. Overall, the Country sees Trump as the weaker, candidate. Debating over which one of the two candidates is weaker, is like debating which one of the two is worse, Hitler or Stalin. They're both horrible, but in a different way. I don't recall "harping" on the popular vote other than to illustrate Trump's base doesn't tend to show up on ED. There are way, way more registered Democrats than Republicans, too. Again, this is a separate concept. There are a subsection of voters who believe Biden is worse for the economy - False. There's a subsection of voters who think Biden overturned Roe v. Wade - False. There's a subsection of voters who think Biden's age is a problem, while Trump's age (even though he'll be 79 in the middle of next year) is not. Trump's term in office is more favorably looked at *now*, years after the fact, because people fixate on what they currently see/hear/feel...it's known as recency bias. And sure, if you don't pay attention, I can see why you'd come to that conclusion. I don't. I think it's a laughable assertion. Joseph Stalin murdered six million Russians. He purged political dissidents. I must have missed the part where Biden kidnapped, raped and tortured Wolf Blitzer or something. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 9, 2024 9:11:42 GMT -8
Biden also won the popular vote, something you harp on, as well as Hillary. Overall, the Country sees Trump as the weaker, candidate. Debating over which one of the two candidates is weaker, is like debating which one of the two is worse, Hitler or Stalin. They're both horrible, but in a different way. I don't recall "harping" on the popular vote other than to illustrate Trump's base doesn't tend to show up on ED. There are way, way more registered Democrats than Republicans, too. Again, this is a separate concept. There are a subsection of voters who believe Biden is worse for the economy - False. There's a subsection of voters who think Biden overturned Roe v. Wade - False. There's a subsection of voters who think Biden's age is a problem, while Trump's age (even though he'll be 79 in the middle of next year) is not. Trump's term in office is more favorably looked at *now*, years after the fact, because people fixate on what they currently see/hear/feel...it's known as recency bias. And sure, if you don't pay attention, I can see why you'd come to that conclusion. I don't. I think it's a laughable assertion. Joseph Stalin murdered six million Russians. He purged political dissidents. I must have missed the part where Biden kidnapped, raped and tortured Wolf Blitzer or something. I'm not saying that either of them are Hitler or Stalin, just saying that they're both weak candidates. That's why I originally said, in a different way. Do you think they'll debate again, in I think September? |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 9, 2024 9:27:33 GMT -8
I don't recall "harping" on the popular vote other than to illustrate Trump's base doesn't tend to show up on ED. There are way, way more registered Democrats than Republicans, too. Again, this is a separate concept. There are a subsection of voters who believe Biden is worse for the economy - False. There's a subsection of voters who think Biden overturned Roe v. Wade - False. There's a subsection of voters who think Biden's age is a problem, while Trump's age (even though he'll be 79 in the middle of next year) is not. Trump's term in office is more favorably looked at *now*, years after the fact, because people fixate on what they currently see/hear/feel...it's known as recency bias. And sure, if you don't pay attention, I can see why you'd come to that conclusion. I don't. I think it's a laughable assertion. Joseph Stalin murdered six million Russians. He purged political dissidents. I must have missed the part where Biden kidnapped, raped and tortured Wolf Blitzer or something. I'm not saying that either of them are Hitler or Stalin, just saying that they're both weak candidates. That's why I originally said, in a different way. Do you think they'll debate again, in I think September? take it to the bank...trump won't debate Biden again. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 9, 2024 9:35:55 GMT -8
I'm not saying that either of them are Hitler or Stalin, just saying that they're both weak candidates. That's why I originally said, in a different way. Do you think they'll debate again, in I think September? take it to the bank...trump won't debate Biden again. Yeah, that's my thoughts as well. Why would he? No reason to. Biden and his Staff sure effed this one up. It looks like he blew it with that performance. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 9, 2024 9:39:03 GMT -8
I don't recall "harping" on the popular vote other than to illustrate Trump's base doesn't tend to show up on ED. There are way, way more registered Democrats than Republicans, too. Again, this is a separate concept. There are a subsection of voters who believe Biden is worse for the economy - False. There's a subsection of voters who think Biden overturned Roe v. Wade - False. There's a subsection of voters who think Biden's age is a problem, while Trump's age (even though he'll be 79 in the middle of next year) is not. Trump's term in office is more favorably looked at *now*, years after the fact, because people fixate on what they currently see/hear/feel...it's known as recency bias. And sure, if you don't pay attention, I can see why you'd come to that conclusion. I don't. I think it's a laughable assertion. Joseph Stalin murdered six million Russians. He purged political dissidents. I must have missed the part where Biden kidnapped, raped and tortured Wolf Blitzer or something. I'm not saying that either of them are Hitler or Stalin, just saying that they're both weak candidates. That's why I originally said, in a different way. Do you think they'll debate again, in I think September? Be careful with historical perspectives and analogies...especially disingenuous ones. I understand where you were going. Biden is a weak candidate because of his age and perceived cognitive difficulties. He's a weak candidate because people can't separate reality from fiction, when public distrust is at an all-time high. There is a massive disconnect between perceptions of "who did what" in response to various things - The economy is seen as one of the most important issues, for example. But people, largely, are unable to separate basic economic principles and extraneous issues, like corporate greed. The simple fact of the matter is corporations will capitalize on any kind of economic capitulation - But nobody digs that deep, they just want someone to blame. See: Musician, Aztec. Trump is a weak candidate, on the other hand, because he was seen as a political outsider, not a politician. In fact, he's the only president in history to have zero military experience or any political office holding. That idea of wanting something "different" reflected in disastrous policy decisions, illustrating political incompetence, a lack of ability to navigate complex diplomatic situations and a favoritism towards dictators. That's before you get to the myriad of legal issues, ethical dilemmas, moral questions or basic character assessments. I personally don't care if they debate again or not. By late September, there won't be much to gain by either party. Lines will have been drawn in the sand, mudslinging will be at a fever pitch and Trump will either be sentenced in New York or just about to be sentenced. What I think is more interesting is if the media will relent on the assault on Biden's age and negative influence in general. Will they start to cover Project 2025? Will they document Trump's plans to deport millions of people? We shall see. |
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