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Post by aztecryan on Apr 17, 2024 12:16:45 GMT -8
Your statement is just hyperbolic without the real need for it. We should be more concerned with the domestic issues than with Putin right now. Putin's mouthpieces are talking about nuclear strikes. I think Putin and Russia should be a primary focus. And Russia was always a focus of Republicans, and still should be. By noting how far the Republican politicians have moved away from Reagan it shows how this isn't the same party they always supported. It doesn't deserve their support anymore. It's bluster. And it has very little to do with Trump (right now) and more to do with Russia losing their ass and their military manpower. Reagan is dead, we can move on. The GOP doesn't know who that is, nor should he be heroized. Republicans just tried to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas over the border "crisis." So much spectacle as they walked the articles down to the Senate chamber. The Senate promptly voted to kill the first article. They are pushing to kill the second article. Women's rights are under attack, with Trump taking credit for overturning Roe v. Wade. In Arizona today, GOP extremists cheered when they wouldn't even entertain a repeal of the law from 1864. 1864. No exceptions for rape, health or incest. How far will another Trump term go? Bill Barr, a "vocal critic" of Trump (according to the WaPo today) said he'll support the Republican ticket in November, regardless of who is on it. The loyalists are digging their heels in and Trump is going to surround himself with yes men. Checks and balances? Maybe not so much. There's a lot to be worried about. But if we continue to water down the severity of the problem with unnecessary jargon, it just widens the divide. We need to talk about the problem in the context of the "why." |
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 17, 2024 15:06:24 GMT -8
Putin's mouthpieces are talking about nuclear strikes. I think Putin and Russia should be a primary focus. And Russia was always a focus of Republicans, and still should be. By noting how far the Republican politicians have moved away from Reagan it shows how this isn't the same party they always supported. It doesn't deserve their support anymore. It's bluster. And it has very little to do with Trump (right now) and more to do with Russia losing their ass and their military manpower. Reagan is dead, we can move on. The GOP doesn't know who that is, nor should he be heroized. Republicans just tried to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas over the border "crisis." So much spectacle as they walked the articles down to the Senate chamber. The Senate promptly voted to kill the first article. They are pushing to kill the second article. Women's rights are under attack, with Trump taking credit for overturning Roe v. Wade. In Arizona today, GOP extremists cheered when they wouldn't even entertain a repeal of the law from 1864. 1864. No exceptions for rape, health or incest. How far will another Trump term go? Bill Barr, a "vocal critic" of Trump (according to the WaPo today) said he'll support the Republican ticket in November, regardless of who is on it. The loyalists are digging their heels in and Trump is going to surround himself with yes men. Checks and balances? Maybe not so much. There's a lot to be worried about. But if we continue to water down the severity of the problem with unnecessary jargon, it just widens the divide. We need to talk about the problem in the context of the "why." Man, trump has these people right where he wants them. Barr, Sununu, and a lot of others despise the guy, but he's left them nowhere to go. trump knows exactly what he's doing..and the light probably went off for him when he heard "dittos"..a kind of agreement with something..no matter the concept or presentation..cult-like. So Ryan, I bet as many people hated each other in 1970, they just didn't know it. Because of technology and reach, they know now. The World got 100x smaller in the last 50 years. My point of "Critcal Mass" and "Carrying Capaciy"..not only based on resources...stands! |
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Post by ptsdthor on Apr 18, 2024 8:42:35 GMT -8
Didn't realize there was a Swiss arm of the MS-13 operating in the Southland.  I'm not sure what fiction has to do with Trump's affinity for White folks. Fiction indeed. www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2024/04/18/migrants-storm-california-beach-after-beaching-speed-boat/Do you think this event in Carlsbad CA included criminal illegal immigration? A. Yes B. No Does this event indicate that the US Southern Border is secure? A. Yes B. No Who do you think were the most culpable criminals in this event? A. Immigrant passengers B. The boat drivers Where do you think the boat came from? A. Mexico B. Korea C. Switzerland D. Other Where do you think the drivers of the boat (aka Coyotes) came from: A. Mexico B. Korea C. Switzerland D. Other Who do you think the Coyotes had paid off before their trip to Carlsbad? A. Baja California-based Mexican Drug Cartel B. US Border Patrol C. A Swiss Bank D. Nobody So, if you answered honestly, you noted that this was an illegal immigration crime across our insecure U.S. Southern Border and it was a Mexican Drug cartel-sanctioned crime with the most culpable criminals being Coyotes from Mexico and, in so doing, you are now considered a bigot. Now if you dare to ask some of the same types of questions about the illegal immigrants involved and note the likely motivations for them doing this risky and likely very expensive method of illegal immigration (versus going the route of the seemingly easy Asylum-oriented fiasco), you note these immigrants may not have the best interests of the US at heart. So I ask, where do you think these illegal immigrants came from? Switzerland? The absurdity and intellectual dishonesty of the Progressive Democrat knows no bounds. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 18, 2024 9:09:37 GMT -8
I'm not sure what fiction has to do with Trump's affinity for White folks. Fiction indeed. www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2024/04/18/migrants-storm-california-beach-after-beaching-speed-boat/Do you think this event in Carlsbad CA included criminal illegal immigration? A. Yes B. No Does this event indicate that the US Southern Border is secure? A. Yes B. No Who do you think were the most culpable criminals in this event? A. Immigrant passengers B. The boat drivers Where do you think the boat came from? A. Mexico B. Korea C. Switzerland D. Other Where do you think the drivers of the boat (aka Coyotes) came from: A. Mexico B. Korea C. Switzerland D. Other Who do you think the Coyotes had paid off before their trip to Carlsbad? A. Baja California-based Mexican Drug Cartel B. US Border Patrol C. A Swiss Bank D. Nobody So, if you answered honestly, you noted that this was an illegal immigration crime across our insecure U.S. Southern Border and it was a Mexican Drug cartel-sanctioned crime with the most culpable criminals being Coyotes from Mexico and, in so doing, you are now considered a bigot. Now if you dare to ask some of the same types of questions about the illegal immigrants involved and note the likely motivations for them doing this risky and likely very expensive method of illegal immigration (versus going the route of the seemingly easy Asylum-oriented fiasco), you note these immigrants may not have the best interests of the US at heart. So I ask, where do you think these illegal immigrants came from? Switzerland? The absurdity and intellectual dishonesty of the Progressive Democrat knows no bounds. Fiction meaning that Trump isn't talking about Switzerland having an MS-13 wing and being at the border, he wants WHiTE people to migrate here. Stop hijacking the thread with your fantasies. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/08/trump-immigration-north-europeIt's not an accident, it's dogwhistling. |
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 18, 2024 10:44:17 GMT -8
I'm not sure what fiction has to do with Trump's affinity for White folks. Fiction indeed. www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2024/04/18/migrants-storm-california-beach-after-beaching-speed-boat/Do you think this event in Carlsbad CA included criminal illegal immigration? A. Yes B. No Does this event indicate that the US Southern Border is secure? A. Yes B. No Who do you think were the most culpable criminals in this event? A. Immigrant passengers B. The boat drivers Where do you think the boat came from? A. Mexico B. Korea C. Switzerland D. Other Where do you think the drivers of the boat (aka Coyotes) came from: A. Mexico B. Korea C. Switzerland D. Other Who do you think the Coyotes had paid off before their trip to Carlsbad? A. Baja California-based Mexican Drug Cartel B. US Border Patrol C. A Swiss Bank D. Nobody So, if you answered honestly, you noted that this was an illegal immigration crime across our insecure U.S. Southern Border and it was a Mexican Drug cartel-sanctioned crime with the most culpable criminals being Coyotes from Mexico and, in so doing, you are now considered a bigot. Now if you dare to ask some of the same types of questions about the illegal immigrants involved and note the likely motivations for them doing this risky and likely very expensive method of illegal immigration (versus going the route of the seemingly easy Asylum-oriented fiasco), you note these immigrants may not have the best interests of the US at heart. So I ask, where do you think these illegal immigrants came from? Switzerland? The absurdity and intellectual dishonesty of the Progressive Democrat knows no bounds. And your answer is what? which you never, ever give. If there is one thing I'm an expert at , it's offshore boating off the San Diego coast. I have worked in nearshore, and offshore waters since 1983. I've been boarded by coast guard, homeland security, Border Patrol and customs many many times. I've personally seen inshore jet skis making deliveries at dusk and have seen Chinese nationals in 3-piece suits standing on the Stern of a piece of $#!+ Mexican power boat...in the middle of the day..asking me "where is San Diego Bay? Coast Guard is out there in force..ots a problem..but hard to get everyone..ps..its been going on for a long long time..and during trump..I saw a lot.....are you proposing an ocean "fence"? |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 18, 2024 10:53:42 GMT -8
Fiction indeed. www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2024/04/18/migrants-storm-california-beach-after-beaching-speed-boat/Do you think this event in Carlsbad CA included criminal illegal immigration? A. Yes B. No Does this event indicate that the US Southern Border is secure? A. Yes B. No Who do you think were the most culpable criminals in this event? A. Immigrant passengers B. The boat drivers Where do you think the boat came from? A. Mexico B. Korea C. Switzerland D. Other Where do you think the drivers of the boat (aka Coyotes) came from: A. Mexico B. Korea C. Switzerland D. Other Who do you think the Coyotes had paid off before their trip to Carlsbad? A. Baja California-based Mexican Drug Cartel B. US Border Patrol C. A Swiss Bank D. Nobody So, if you answered honestly, you noted that this was an illegal immigration crime across our insecure U.S. Southern Border and it was a Mexican Drug cartel-sanctioned crime with the most culpable criminals being Coyotes from Mexico and, in so doing, you are now considered a bigot. Now if you dare to ask some of the same types of questions about the illegal immigrants involved and note the likely motivations for them doing this risky and likely very expensive method of illegal immigration (versus going the route of the seemingly easy Asylum-oriented fiasco), you note these immigrants may not have the best interests of the US at heart. So I ask, where do you think these illegal immigrants came from? Switzerland? The absurdity and intellectual dishonesty of the Progressive Democrat knows no bounds. And your answer is what? which you never, ever give. If there is one thing I'm an expert at , it's offshore boating off the San Diego coast. I have worked in nearshore, and offshore waters since 1983. I've been boarded by coast guard, homeland security, Border Patrol and customs many many times. I've personally seen inshore jet skis making deliveries at dusk and have seen Chinese nationals in 3-piece suits standing on the Stern of a piece of $#!+ Mexican power boat...in the middle of the day..asking me "where is San Diego Bay? Coast Guard is out there in force..ots a problem..but hard to get everyone..ps..its been going on for a long long time..and during trump..I saw a lot.....are you proposing an ocean "fence"? The one thing that these folks can never answer to is that there was a bipartisan bill in place and it was killed by Republicans to not give Joe Biden a win prior to the election. |
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 18, 2024 11:51:44 GMT -8
Fiction indeed. www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2024/04/18/migrants-storm-california-beach-after-beaching-speed-boat/Do you think this event in Carlsbad CA included criminal illegal immigration? A. Yes B. No Does this event indicate that the US Southern Border is secure? A. Yes B. No Who do you think were the most culpable criminals in this event? A. Immigrant passengers B. The boat drivers Where do you think the boat came from? A. Mexico B. Korea C. Switzerland D. Other Where do you think the drivers of the boat (aka Coyotes) came from: A. Mexico B. Korea C. Switzerland D. Other Who do you think the Coyotes had paid off before their trip to Carlsbad? A. Baja California-based Mexican Drug Cartel B. US Border Patrol C. A Swiss Bank D. Nobody So, if you answered honestly, you noted that this was an illegal immigration crime across our insecure U.S. Southern Border and it was a Mexican Drug cartel-sanctioned crime with the most culpable criminals being Coyotes from Mexico and, in so doing, you are now considered a bigot. Now if you dare to ask some of the same types of questions about the illegal immigrants involved and note the likely motivations for them doing this risky and likely very expensive method of illegal immigration (versus going the route of the seemingly easy Asylum-oriented fiasco), you note these immigrants may not have the best interests of the US at heart. So I ask, where do you think these illegal immigrants came from? Switzerland? The absurdity and intellectual dishonesty of the Progressive Democrat knows no bounds. Fiction meaning that Trump isn't talking about Switzerland having an MS-13 wing and being at the border, he wants WHiTE people to migrate here. Stop hijacking the thread with your fantasies. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/08/trump-immigration-north-europeIt's not an accident, it's dogwhistling. Europeans aren't going to want to come here as we approach "shitholeness"...due to maga cancer. |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 18, 2024 12:24:40 GMT -8
And your answer is what? which you never, ever give. If there is one thing I'm an expert at , it's offshore boating off the San Diego coast. I have worked in nearshore, and offshore waters since 1983. I've been boarded by coast guard, homeland security, Border Patrol and customs many many times. I've personally seen inshore jet skis making deliveries at dusk and have seen Chinese nationals in 3-piece suits standing on the Stern of a piece of $#!+ Mexican power boat...in the middle of the day..asking me "where is San Diego Bay? Coast Guard is out there in force..ots a problem..but hard to get everyone..ps..its been going on for a long long time..and during trump..I saw a lot.....are you proposing an ocean "fence"? The one thing that these folks can never answer to is that there was a bipartisan bill in place and it was killed by Republicans to not give Joe Biden a win prior to the election. And here is the differences. The MAGA people say it's because you rarely/never hear of the Swiss, et al, committing crimes like the ones committed by our neighbors on the border. Trump haters say that he meant bring in more white people. And so on, and so on. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 18, 2024 12:46:03 GMT -8
ptsdthor, you should be pissed at Trump for ordering the Republicans to kill the bipartisan Border security bill. He put himself above the well being of the country. That is utterly unacceptable. Every Republican voter should pull their support for him based on that alone. Biden was set to sign that bill, giving Republicans 90% of what they wanted. That bill was far more Republican than Democratic, but Trump ordered it killed by the Republicans and they did his bidding. So if the border really is your top priority then you shouldn't be supporting the man who killed that bill. To continue to support him after doing that is intellectually dishonest and hypocritical.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 18, 2024 13:16:40 GMT -8
The one thing that these folks can never answer to is that there was a bipartisan bill in place and it was killed by Republicans to not give Joe Biden a win prior to the election. And here is the differences. The MAGA people say it's because you rarely/never here of the Swiss, et al, committing crimes like the ones committed by our neighbors on the border. Trump haters say that he meant, bring in more white people. And so on, and so on. ...No, it's because Trump has a long history of racist behavior, which you are well aware of. MAGA's movement is built upon racial hierarchies and the advancement of White nationalism. The MAGA phrase was used by Reagan in the 80's to signify an economy that was dealing with stagflation. It's now taken on another meaning entirely, coded language that promotes racial division. We don't have to do this. |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 18, 2024 13:25:32 GMT -8
And here is the differences. The MAGA people say it's because you rarely/never here of the Swiss, et al, committing crimes like the ones committed by our neighbors on the border. Trump haters say that he meant, bring in more white people. And so on, and so on. ...No, it's because Trump has a long history of racist behavior, which you are well aware of. MAGA's movement is built upon racial hierarchies and the advancement of White nationalism. The MAGA phrase was used by Reagan in the 80's to signify an economy that was dealing with stagflation. It's now taken on another meaning entirely, coded language that promotes racial division. We don't have to do this. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Trump haters, meaning people who do not like him for a variety of reasons, say it's because he wants to bring in more white people, because of his actions. MAGAs want to say it's all a misunderstanding, his racist tendencies, and that he only means that the Swiss have not committed crimes of that nature. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 18, 2024 14:17:35 GMT -8
...No, it's because Trump has a long history of racist behavior, which you are well aware of. MAGA's movement is built upon racial hierarchies and the advancement of White nationalism. The MAGA phrase was used by Reagan in the 80's to signify an economy that was dealing with stagflation. It's now taken on another meaning entirely, coded language that promotes racial division. We don't have to do this. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Trump haters, meaning people who do not like him for a variety of reasons, say it's because he wants to bring in more white people, because of his actions. MAGAs want to say it's all a misunderstanding, his racist tendencies, and that he only means that the Swiss have not committed crimes of that nature. No. Just no. Facts are facts. Trump "haters" (what is this, middle school?) are called "never Trumpers." They have nothing to do with statements made by Trump himself, of which there is a long, storied list, detailing his behavior or the people surrounding him. You're both sides-ing $#!+ AGAIN. There's no debate here. When you look at actual evidence, it's clear as day. When you water down discussion like this with third-grade logic like "They don't like him," you become part of the problem. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 18, 2024 14:43:24 GMT -8
johneaztec, there can be no doubt that Trump is a racist. When you use terms like, "Animals," and, "Vermin," to describe Latino immigrants (terms straight out of the Nazi playbook, the exact same terms used to describe the Jews back then), you're a flat out disgusting racist pos. There is no other way to take those comments unless you're twisting yourself into an illogical pretzel to try and explain it away.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 18, 2024 15:02:10 GMT -8
johneaztec, there can be no doubt that Trump is a racist. When you use terms like, "Animals," and, "Vermin," to describe Latino immigrants (terms straight out of the Nazi playbook, the exact same terms used to describe the Jews back then), you're a flat out disgusting racist pos. There is no other way to take those comments unless you're twisting yourself into an illogical pretzel to try and explain it away. But there's so much more evidence than just that. The "Switzerland and Denmark" comment about being frustrated by not getting immigrants from "nice countries." The complaint about "shithole" countries like Haiti and certain countries in Africa. His speechwriter and advisor, Stephen Miller, is literally a White nationalist. His association with Marjorie Taylor Greene, who was a speaker at an event hosted by Nick Fuentes, a known White supremacist and Anti-Semite. The hateful anti-Chinese remarks during COVID, calling it the "Wuhan virus" and "kung flu." There are literally dozens of examples. |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 18, 2024 15:11:48 GMT -8
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Trump haters, meaning people who do not like him for a variety of reasons, say it's because he wants to bring in more white people, because of his actions. MAGAs want to say it's all a misunderstanding, his racist tendencies, and that he only means that the Swiss have not committed crimes of that nature. No. Just no. Facts are facts. Trump "haters" (what is this, middle school?) are called "never Trumpers." They have nothing to do with statements made by Trump himself, of which there is a long, storied list, detailing his behavior or the people surrounding him. You're both sides-ing $#!+ AGAIN. There's no debate here. When you look at actual evidence, it's clear as day. When you water down discussion like this with third-grade logic like "They don't like him," you become part of the problem. Wow. You're a piece a work, that gets triggered so dang easy. Trump haters (people who don't like Trump) Never Trumpers. Whatever. Ok, Never Trumpers. Like I said, don't let yourself get triggered so easily. Sheesh. It's not good for your health. Both siding it? What are you talking about. That's how the two sides feel. Facts. Come on now. You don't want to hear it, but it's true. You just want to see me as two siding it. Sheesh. Both sides feel it's clear as day, as you say, in what they believe. Hey, anger management is a thing. You should check it out. |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 18, 2024 15:13:09 GMT -8
johneaztec, there can be no doubt that Trump is a racist. When you use terms like, "Animals," and, "Vermin," to describe Latino immigrants (terms straight out of the Nazi playbook, the exact same terms used to describe the Jews back then), you're a flat out disgusting racist pos. There is no other way to take those comments unless you're twisting yourself into an illogical pretzel to try and explain it away. My gosh, all I did was point out how the two sides feel, right or wrong. I'm not condoning it, or saying it's true. Sheesh again. |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 18, 2024 15:15:33 GMT -8
By the way, I do believe that a President, or Presidential Candidate, of all people, or anybody for that matter, should not be using that language in regards to the Swiss and Dens, etc...
It comes across very negatively.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 18, 2024 15:17:06 GMT -8
No. Just no. Facts are facts. Trump "haters" (what is this, middle school?) are called "never Trumpers." They have nothing to do with statements made by Trump himself, of which there is a long, storied list, detailing his behavior or the people surrounding him. You're both sides-ing $#!+ AGAIN. There's no debate here. When you look at actual evidence, it's clear as day. When you water down discussion like this with third-grade logic like "They don't like him," you become part of the problem. Wow. You're a piece a work, that gets triggered so dang easy. Trump haters (people who don't like Trump) Never Trumpers. Whatever. Ok, Never Trumpers. Like I said, don't let yourself get triggered so easily. Sheesh. It's not good for your health. Both siding it? What are you talking about. That's how the two sides feel. Facts. Come on now. You don't want to hear it, but it's true. You just want to see me as two siding it. Sheesh. Both sides feel it's clear as day, as you say, in what they believe. Hey, anger management is a thing. You should check it out. Who uses the word triggered anymore? You think I'm "triggered" because of your logic? Lol. What an embarrassment. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 18, 2024 15:17:50 GMT -8
johneaztec, there can be no doubt that Trump is a racist. When you use terms like, "Animals," and, "Vermin," to describe Latino immigrants (terms straight out of the Nazi playbook, the exact same terms used to describe the Jews back then), you're a flat out disgusting racist pos. There is no other way to take those comments unless you're twisting yourself into an illogical pretzel to try and explain it away. My gosh, all I did was point out how the two sides feel, right or wrong. I'm not condoning it, or saying it's true. Sheesh again. Because there are no "both sides" here. I know you're capable, try it, just once. Here's a hint: Many, many, many, many members of society that promote MAGA? They are....racist. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 18, 2024 15:18:41 GMT -8
By the way, I do believe that a President, or Presidential Candidate, of all people, or anybody for that matter, should not be using that language in regards to the Swiss and Dens, etc... It comes across very negatively. What. A. Clapback. Maybe he'll get put in timeout next. |
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