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Post by johneaztec on Jun 12, 2024 18:10:37 GMT -8
Ortiz has a 141 wRC+, Merrill's at 105. Ortiz has an .843 OPS, Merrill is at .703. Ortiz has the advantage virtually across the board offensively for a first place team. You spoke definitively when you said it WILL deflate his argument. You didn't say it "may" deflate his argument. You're reacting as if the season is over, which you're prone to do, and this is his conclusion. Merrill has a VERY good chance to be ROY when it's all said and done. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 12, 2024 18:12:21 GMT -8
Ortiz has a 141 wRC+, Merrill's at 105. Ortiz has an .843 OPS, Merrill is at .703. Ortiz has the advantage virtually across the board offensively for a first place team. Merrill's right there. It's too early to make any definitive answers regarding it. |
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Post by junior on Jun 12, 2024 18:30:14 GMT -8
Today’s BP goat… once again, Wadney Peralta. The Padres are lucky to have come back after Peralta’s mound 💩 today. Booed off the mound… and it was well earned.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 12, 2024 18:39:49 GMT -8
Today’s BP goat… once again, Wadney Peralta. The Padres are lucky to have come back after Peralta’s mound 💩 today. Booed off the mound… and it was well earned. Big time. Solano and Merrill saved their butts. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 12, 2024 20:23:26 GMT -8
Ortiz has a 141 wRC+, Merrill's at 105. Ortiz has an .843 OPS, Merrill is at .703. Ortiz has the advantage virtually across the board offensively for a first place team. You spoke definitively when you said it WILL deflate his argument. You didn't say it "may" deflate his argument. You're reacting as if the season is over, which you're prone to do, and this is his conclusion. Merrill has a VERY good chance to be ROY when it's all said and done. Yes, that means right now it deflates his argument, that was the context of the conversation. You don't need to use your caps lock button to emphasize the point. He's not winning the award unless the Padres go on an absolute heater, though, and he makes up the gap offensively. That doesn't even include Yamamoto or Imanaga...or even Paul Skenes. He's got obstacles to overcome. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 12, 2024 20:36:59 GMT -8
You spoke definitively when you said it WILL deflate his argument. You didn't say it "may" deflate his argument. You're reacting as if the season is over, which you're prone to do, and this is his conclusion. Merrill has a VERY good chance to be ROY when it's all said and done. Yes, that means right now it deflates his argument, that was the context of the conversation. You don't need to use your caps lock button to emphasize the point. He's not winning the award unless the Padres go on an absolute heater, though, and he makes up the gap offensively. That doesn't even include Yamamoto or Imanaga...or even Paul Skenes. He's got obstacles to overcome. Ok, it sounded to me as if you meant for the whole year. My bad. I'm not going to change using all caps in certain situations. That's just what I do in all situations, to everybody. My style. Are you saying, for example, if Merrill has better stats, or simply a little bit of a better year than Ortiz, Ortiz will get the ROY award based on being on a playoff team? I know that can happen in the MVP voting, but I didn't think that was the case necessarily for ROY. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 12, 2024 20:43:43 GMT -8
Yes, that means right now it deflates his argument, that was the context of the conversation. You don't need to use your caps lock button to emphasize the point. He's not winning the award unless the Padres go on an absolute heater, though, and he makes up the gap offensively. That doesn't even include Yamamoto or Imanaga...or even Paul Skenes. He's got obstacles to overcome. Ok, it sounded to me as if you meant for the whole year. My bad. I'm not going to change using all caps in certain situations. That's just what I do in all situations, to everybody. My style. Are you saying, for example, if Merrill has better stats, or simply a little bit of a better year than Ortiz, Ortiz will get the ROY award based on being on a playoff team? I know that can happen in the MVP voting, but I didn't think that was the case necessarily for ROY. Ortiz is way, way ahead right now statistically. Better WAR, better counting stats across the board. A 35 point gap in wRC+ is significant. The OPS gap is sizable. Merrill has five home runs, a below average OBP and nothing remarkable in the profile. He's good, obviously, but being horrific against lefties has submarined his overall line. Ortiz has been better, as has Busch. I don't see any way Skenes doesn't win it with all the hype surrounding him, if he continues to post gaudy numbers, though. Voters cling to that stuff like you wouldn't believe. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 12, 2024 20:49:54 GMT -8
Proving my argument that most good defensive shortstops are capable of being good to elite outfielders. I still argue that Kim could be a great centerfielder, but I'm glad that we have Merrill in CF (And Kim at Short) Having one thing be true isn't "proof" of "most" anything. Jazz Chisholm, converted shortstop, 0 OAA this year. It depends on the player. Athleticism and intelligence help. I don't really want a 5'9" guy playing center field, personally. There's also a *lot* of variance in defensive metrics from year to year because of how they are calculated. It's not just Merrill - Tatis is an incredible right fielder as well. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 12, 2024 20:52:41 GMT -8
Having one thing be true isn't "proof" of "most" anything. Jazz Chisholm, converted shortstop, 0 OAA this year. It depends on the player. Athleticism and intelligence help. I don't really want a 5'9" guy playing center field, personally. There's also a *lot* of variance in defensive metrics from year to year because of how they are calculated. It's not just Merrill - Tatis is an incredible right fielder as well. Last year, yes. This year, he's been pretty bad out there. His arm is great, the range/jump/route efficiency have been poor. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 12, 2024 21:10:21 GMT -8
Ok, it sounded to me as if you meant for the whole year. My bad. I'm not going to change using all caps in certain situations. That's just what I do in all situations, to everybody. My style. Are you saying, for example, if Merrill has better stats, or simply a little bit of a better year than Ortiz, Ortiz will get the ROY award based on being on a playoff team? I know that can happen in the MVP voting, but I didn't think that was the case necessarily for ROY. Ortiz is way, way ahead right now statistically. Better WAR, better counting stats across the board. A 35 point gap in wRC+ is significant. The OPS gap is sizable. Merrill has five home runs, a below average OBP and nothing remarkable in the profile. He's good, obviously, but being horrific against lefties has submarined his overall line. Ortiz has been better, as has Busch. I don't see any way Skenes doesn't win it with all the hype surrounding him, if he continues to post gaudy numbers, though. Voters cling to that stuff like you wouldn't believe. I forgot about Skenes. Yeah, he has the hype train attached to him. We shall see. It's way early. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 12, 2024 21:48:55 GMT -8
Ok, it sounded to me as if you meant for the whole year. My bad. I'm not going to change using all caps in certain situations. That's just what I do in all situations, to everybody. My style. Are you saying, for example, if Merrill has better stats, or simply a little bit of a better year than Ortiz, Ortiz will get the ROY award based on being on a playoff team? I know that can happen in the MVP voting, but I didn't think that was the case necessarily for ROY. Ortiz is way, way ahead right now statistically. Better WAR, better counting stats across the board. A 35 point gap in wRC+ is significant. The OPS gap is sizable. Merrill has five home runs, a below average OBP and nothing remarkable in the profile. He's good, obviously, but being horrific against lefties has submarined his overall line. Ortiz has been better, as has Busch. I don't see any way Skenes doesn't win it with all the hype surrounding him, if he continues to post gaudy numbers, though. Voters cling to that stuff like you wouldn't believe. I think Imanaga is around 30 years old and Yamamoto is around 25, as well as Ortiz. Merrill, 21. Skenes 22. I think voters should remember that, as well. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 12, 2024 21:56:52 GMT -8
Ortiz is way, way ahead right now statistically. Better WAR, better counting stats across the board. A 35 point gap in wRC+ is significant. The OPS gap is sizable. Merrill has five home runs, a below average OBP and nothing remarkable in the profile. He's good, obviously, but being horrific against lefties has submarined his overall line. Ortiz has been better, as has Busch. I don't see any way Skenes doesn't win it with all the hype surrounding him, if he continues to post gaudy numbers, though. Voters cling to that stuff like you wouldn't believe. I think Imanaga is around 30 years old and Yamamoto is around 25, as well as Ortiz. Merrill, 21. Skenes 22. I think voters should remember that, as well. Still count as rookies, despite the age gap. Merrill is currently sixth in odds, +3000. I think it's Skenes' award to lose at this point, given his draft pedigree and results. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 12, 2024 22:11:14 GMT -8
I think Imanaga is around 30 years old and Yamamoto is around 25, as well as Ortiz. Merrill, 21. Skenes 22. I think voters should remember that, as well. Still count as rookies, despite the age gap. Merrill is currently sixth in odds, +3000. I think it's Skenes' award to lose at this point, given his draft pedigree and results. Yes, I know they still count as Rookies, but it's not a level playing field. I had forgotten about Skenes, and I agree it's his to lose. |
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Post by junior on Jun 13, 2024 8:58:03 GMT -8
Individual plaudits will come more frequently when they actually win a WS. Someday. Maybe.
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 14, 2024 7:12:06 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 14, 2024 7:44:09 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 14, 2024 8:14:53 GMT -8
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Post by aardvark on Jun 14, 2024 10:47:17 GMT -8
I don't think the Padres are "bucking" anything, as they are in the top 10 in MLB in home runs. Amazingly, the Padres are 4th in home runs at home, but 2nd to last in road home runs. And in just a quick glance, I can't find the stat, but a more telling statistic would be how many HR's have the Padres hit with the bases empty versus with runners on. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 14, 2024 10:51:22 GMT -8
I don't think the Padres are "bucking" anything, as they are in the top 10 in MLB in home runs. Amazingly, the Padres are 4th in home runs at home, but 2nd to last in road home runs. And in just a quick glance, I can't find the stat, but a more telling statistic would be how many HR's have the Padres hit with the bases empty versus with runners on. 43 solo, 32 with men on. They had a two plus week streak, however, of only having two home runs with a runner on base. Ran from May 19th through at least June 3rd, but I think it was a few days later than that. And of course, not all home runs are created equally. |
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Post by aardvark on Jun 14, 2024 11:01:14 GMT -8
So...would you say that MLB has shot themselves in the foot regarding player development after their restructuring of the minor leagues? |
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