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Post by aztecryan on Jun 3, 2024 8:04:18 GMT -8
The Padres catching situation is really horrible since Campusano has gone South. He's hitless in his last 23 ABs and hitting a robust .091 in his last 60 plate appearances. Campusano and Higashioka are hitting a collective .211 which is terrible. However, as terrible as that is, there are 11 (!!) team's catching combos hitting worse than that. First it was Francisco Mejia that was going to star behind the dish. That didn't come to pass but now it's Campusano's turn. I sure hope Salas ends up being worthy of that $5,600,000 signing bonus. Salas is a third of the way through the Fort Wayne schedule and is hitting .193 with 1 HR. He's striking out about once every 4 plate appearances. I know he's only 17 but that's a whole lot of money to give someone that young. Preller has missed way more than hit on these International signings. I just hope Salas isn't another miss. Preller has definitely not missed on way more than he has hit on international signees. The Padres have utilized them in different ways to achieve different goals. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 3, 2024 8:27:43 GMT -8
That is absolutely hilarious!!! All on Shildt. Par for the course. Although, I do agree that yesterday and Friday were on Shildt. They generated wins. Today was all Kolek. I certainly do have the right to complain about one over the other, when I believe that the Manager was correct in his moves. I've already told you my reasons why, many times, and told you that I don't agree with you. That's it. Kolek effed up big time, and the result was today. Bummer. You can complain, but you literally just look jaded, antagonistic and biased. You could actually argue you could have swept the series and only used Suarez once and you'd be closer to being right. Your arguments aren't coherent, they aren't logical, they aren't rational, they don't make any sense whatsoever. You're being hypocritical and it shows, with silly justifications that ignore the facts. But I've come to expect nothing less. Jaded would be you against Shildt. That's how you come across. Big time biased. If Kolek doesn't crap the bed, we win the Series. Point blank. Suarez would have been available yesterday. No matter how you try to spin a blame on Shildt, that's what it comes down to. I'm done with this back and forth. You can have your OPINIONS and I can have mine. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 3, 2024 8:33:23 GMT -8
The Padres catching situation is really horrible since Campusano has gone South. He's hitless in his last 23 ABs and hitting a robust .091 in his last 60 plate appearances. Campusano and Higashioka are hitting a collective .211 which is terrible. However, as terrible as that is, there are 11 (!!) team's catching combos hitting worse than that. First it was Francisco Mejia that was going to star behind the dish. That didn't come to pass but now it's Campusano's turn. I sure hope Salas ends up being worthy of that $5,600,000 signing bonus. Salas is a third of the way through the Fort Wayne schedule and is hitting .193 with 1 HR. He's striking out about once every 4 plate appearances. I know he's only 17 but that's a whole lot of money to give someone that young. Preller has missed way more than hit on these International signings. I just hope Salas isn't another miss. Salas has all the tools, although he currently has a 193 batting average, with 1 home run in 191 plate appearances. He's young. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 3, 2024 8:38:51 GMT -8
You can complain, but you literally just look jaded, antagonistic and biased. You could actually argue you could have swept the series and only used Suarez once and you'd be closer to being right. Your arguments aren't coherent, they aren't logical, they aren't rational, they don't make any sense whatsoever. You're being hypocritical and it shows, with silly justifications that ignore the facts. But I've come to expect nothing less. Jaded would be you against Shildt. That's how you come across. Blaming him for all three losses. Big time biased. If Kolek doesn't crap the bed, we win the Series. Point blank. Suarez would have been available yesterday. No matter how you try to spin a blame on Shildt, that's what it comes down to. I'm done with this back and forth. You can have your OPINIONS and I can have mine. No. I loved Shildt prior to the season. Endorsed his hiring on here and in other places fully. I loved his knowledge of the farm system and his relationships with some of the prospects that have/will debut this year. He's just completely lost and paranoid at this point. The defensive press conference are cringeworthy. The justifications are lame. The inability to maximize your edges is frustrating beyond everything. It's what the sport is about. Unlike you, I can point to every decision and tell you why he was wrong and why they didn't sweep yesterday. (They did win the series, which you apparently typo'd...again.) Your opinion is yours, but it isn't based on anything insightful or factual. Selective bias doesn't lead to anything useful, which is why we are here. Take a step back and think about this: What's true on Friday (in your head) is also true on Saturday. So you either agree with BOTH....or neither. It's that simple. "He wanted to close the door in game two" is not a serious argument, when you consider he already burned the backup closer and half the bullpen in the same game. If you're choosing one, you're just not interested in the truth. Sorry. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 3, 2024 9:23:18 GMT -8
Jaded would be you against Shildt. That's how you come across. Blaming him for all three losses. Big time biased. If Kolek doesn't crap the bed, we win the Series. Point blank. Suarez would have been available yesterday. No matter how you try to spin a blame on Shildt, that's what it comes down to. I'm done with this back and forth. You can have your OPINIONS and I can have mine. No. I loved Shildt prior to the season. Endorsed his hiring on here and in other places fully. I loved his knowledge of the farm system and his relationships with some of the prospects that have/will debut this year. He's just completely lost and paranoid at this point. The defensive press conference are cringeworthy. The justifications are lame. The inability to maximize your edges is frustrating beyond everything. It's what the sport is about. Unlike you, I can point to every decision and tell you why he was wrong and why they didn't sweep yesterday. (They did win the series, which you apparently typo'd...again.) Your opinion is yours, but it isn't based on anything insightful or factual. Selective bias doesn't lead to anything useful, which is why we are here. Take a step back and think about this: What's true on Friday (in your head) is also true on Saturday. So you either agree with BOTH....or neither. It's that simple. "He wanted to close the door in game two" is not a serious argument, when you consider he already burned the backup closer and half the bullpen in the same game. If you're choosing one, you're just not interested in the truth. Sorry. I have told you, MANY times over, that I agree with how Shildt went about it in both games. I'm moving on. If you feel the need for the last words. It's all yours. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 3, 2024 9:24:54 GMT -8
Let's get at least another Series victory against the Angels, if not a sweep that will propel us on to a long winning streak.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 3, 2024 9:36:50 GMT -8
No. I loved Shildt prior to the season. Endorsed his hiring on here and in other places fully. I loved his knowledge of the farm system and his relationships with some of the prospects that have/will debut this year. He's just completely lost and paranoid at this point. The defensive press conference are cringeworthy. The justifications are lame. The inability to maximize your edges is frustrating beyond everything. It's what the sport is about. Unlike you, I can point to every decision and tell you why he was wrong and why they didn't sweep yesterday. (They did win the series, which you apparently typo'd...again.) Your opinion is yours, but it isn't based on anything insightful or factual. Selective bias doesn't lead to anything useful, which is why we are here. Take a step back and think about this: What's true on Friday (in your head) is also true on Saturday. So you either agree with BOTH....or neither. It's that simple. "He wanted to close the door in game two" is not a serious argument, when you consider he already burned the backup closer and half the bullpen in the same game. If you're choosing one, you're just not interested in the truth. Sorry. I have told you, MANY times over, that I agree with how Shildt went about it in both games. I'm moving on. If you feel the need for the last words. It's all yours. So then you agree with Kolek. Quaint. |
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Post by junior on Jun 3, 2024 11:33:52 GMT -8
The general consensus among psychologists and psychiatrists about people who need to have the last word is that they’re either arrogant, or insecure, or angry, or egotistical. Couple those traits with a need to show power or control, and a not-so-pretty picture emerges.
If you think you are living with or working with a Last-Worder, here are some hints.
The first lesson, and maybe the most important one, is to step away from the debate. When you’re dealing with a Last-Worder, remember that you don’t have to continue the conversation in that moment. In fact, there’s always the outside chance that taking a break from the dispute might give the other person an opportunity to think about what was said, and maybe even grant you a concession or two when (or if) you resume the conversation.
The next lesson is that it’s unnecessary to point out that the other person is wrong. Last-Worders almost never admit that you’re right, nor are they generally willing to apologize.
And finally, the old adage that silence is golden is certainly applicable when dealing with a Last-Worder. If you initiate the silence by walking away and refusing to engage, you are most assuredly maintaining your dignity.
Words to live by… especially with at least 100 games left (hopefully more…)
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 3, 2024 11:40:27 GMT -8
The general consensus among psychologists and psychiatrists about people who need to have the last word is that they’re either arrogant, or insecure, or angry, or egotistical. Couple those traits with a need to show power or control, and a not-so-pretty picture emerges.
If you think you are living with or working with a Last-Worder, here are some hints.
The first lesson, and maybe the most important one, is to step away from the debate. When you’re dealing with a Last-Worder, remember that you don’t have to continue the conversation in that moment. In fact, there’s always the outside chance that taking a break from the dispute might give the other person an opportunity to think about what was said, and maybe even grant you a concession or two when (or if) you resume the conversation.
The next lesson is that it’s unnecessary to point out that the other person is wrong. Last-Worders almost never admit that you’re right, nor are they generally willing to apologize.
And finally, the old adage that silence is golden is certainly applicable when dealing with a Last-Worder. If you initiate the silence by walking away and refusing to engage, you are most assuredly maintaining your dignity.
Words to live by… It's really not that serious. I've disengaged plenty of times. I just don't like intentional manipulation of information to justify an agenda. If someone wants to defend how we came up with Yuki Matsui as the only option available yesterday (Or "Yucky Yuki" as some might prefer after beating a dead horse...) without even mentioning Mike Shildt, it's just nonsense. Mike Shildt would tell you he probably erred, or at least I would hope he would. Until the next failed talking point... |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 3, 2024 11:56:32 GMT -8
The general consensus among psychologists and psychiatrists about people who need to have the last word is that they’re either arrogant, or insecure, or angry, or egotistical. Couple those traits with a need to show power or control, and a not-so-pretty picture emerges.
If you think you are living with or working with a Last-Worder, here are some hints.
The first lesson, and maybe the most important one, is to step away from the debate. When you’re dealing with a Last-Worder, remember that you don’t have to continue the conversation in that moment. In fact, there’s always the outside chance that taking a break from the dispute might give the other person an opportunity to think about what was said, and maybe even grant you a concession or two when (or if) you resume the conversation.
The next lesson is that it’s unnecessary to point out that the other person is wrong. Last-Worders almost never admit that you’re right, nor are they generally willing to apologize.
And finally, the old adage that silence is golden is certainly applicable when dealing with a Last-Worder. If you initiate the silence by walking away and refusing to engage, you are most assuredly maintaining your dignity.
Words to live by… especially with at least 100 games left (hopefully more…) Exactly. Very apropos. Certain people should take note, as well as myself. Thanks. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 3, 2024 11:58:10 GMT -8
The general consensus among psychologists and psychiatrists about people who need to have the last word is that they’re either arrogant, or insecure, or angry, or egotistical. Couple those traits with a need to show power or control, and a not-so-pretty picture emerges.
If you think you are living with or working with a Last-Worder, here are some hints.
The first lesson, and maybe the most important one, is to step away from the debate. When you’re dealing with a Last-Worder, remember that you don’t have to continue the conversation in that moment. In fact, there’s always the outside chance that taking a break from the dispute might give the other person an opportunity to think about what was said, and maybe even grant you a concession or two when (or if) you resume the conversation.
The next lesson is that it’s unnecessary to point out that the other person is wrong. Last-Worders almost never admit that you’re right, nor are they generally willing to apologize.
And finally, the old adage that silence is golden is certainly applicable when dealing with a Last-Worder. If you initiate the silence by walking away and refusing to engage, you are most assuredly maintaining your dignity.
Words to live by… It's really not that serious. I've disengaged plenty of times. I just don't like intentional manipulation of information to justify an agenda. If someone wants to defend how we came up with Yuki Matsui as the only option available yesterday (Or "Yucky Yuki" as some might prefer after beating a dead horse...) without even mentioning Mike Shildt, it's just nonsense. Mike Shildt would tell you he probably erred, or at least I would hope he would. Until the next failed talking point... Has anybody asked Shildt that question? I haven't seen it. Probably not, because they ended up winning the Series. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 3, 2024 12:12:33 GMT -8
Former Padre and current Padre minor leaguer Tucupita Marcano faces a potential lifetime ban for betting on baseball. The Padres are never boring...
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 3, 2024 12:14:54 GMT -8
It's really not that serious. I've disengaged plenty of times. I just don't like intentional manipulation of information to justify an agenda. If someone wants to defend how we came up with Yuki Matsui as the only option available yesterday (Or "Yucky Yuki" as some might prefer after beating a dead horse...) without even mentioning Mike Shildt, it's just nonsense. Mike Shildt would tell you he probably erred, or at least I would hope he would. Until the next failed talking point... Has anybody asked Shildt that question? I haven't seen it. Probably not, because they ended up winning the Series. I didn't watch the postgame, so I don't know. I would hope they would? In an era where you're limited to 13 pitchers, you can't waste a guy for two pitches and another guy for three pitches. Once? Maybe. But it happened across two different games. The only available relievers yesterday for a potential sweep: Brito, Kolek, Matsui. That's it. That's poor managing, plain and simple. |
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Post by aardvark on Jun 3, 2024 12:45:34 GMT -8
Former Padre and current Padre minor leaguer Tucupita Marcano faces a potential lifetime ban for betting on baseball. The Padres are never boring... There could soon be an opening on the 40-man roster. |
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Post by docmm on Jun 3, 2024 12:52:09 GMT -8
The Padres catching situation is really horrible since Campusano has gone South. He's hitless in his last 23 ABs and hitting a robust .091 in his last 60 plate appearances. Campusano and Higashioka are hitting a collective .211 which is terrible. However, as terrible as that is, there are 11 (!!) team's catching combos hitting worse than that. First it was Francisco Mejia that was going to star behind the dish. That didn't come to pass but now it's Campusano's turn. I sure hope Salas ends up being worthy of that $5,600,000 signing bonus. Salas is a third of the way through the Fort Wayne schedule and is hitting .193 with 1 HR. He's striking out about once every 4 plate appearances. I know he's only 17 but that's a whole lot of money to give someone that young. Preller has missed way more than hit on these International signings. I just hope Salas isn't another miss. Preller has definitely not missed on way more than he has hit on international signees. The Padres have utilized them in different ways to achieve different goals. Do you still think Adrian Morejon was worth $11,000,000? How about Jorge Ona for $7,000,000. Here's more International signings from 2016: Luis Almanzar, Gabriel Arias, Jeisson Rosario, Jordy Barley, Justin Lopez and Tirso Ornelas were signed for a collective $7,050,000. See a lot of all-stars there? How about those stellar Major Leaguers Tucupita Marcano and Luis Patino? And who could ever forget other high end signees:Andres Munoz, Emmanuel Class and Michael Baez? Let's try 2017: Do these Top 6 names ring a bell? Manuel Partida, Frank Lopez, Yelson Santana, Nick Rios, Jason Santan and Luis Paez. Was 2018 any different? Charlie Aquino, Euribel Angeles, Albert Fabian, Wilmert Paula, Reginald Dowston, Axcel Peralta, Emmanuel Rodruigez, Jose Velez, Justin Diaz, Edwin Rojas, Addison Moreno. Alex Ramirez, Nerwilliam Cedeno, Wilfredo Tovar, Eduardo Hidalgo, Victor Duarte and Jairo Iriarte. 17 signings 17 misses. 2019 MUST have been a good year though huh? How about $5,000,000 for Ismael Pena, Brayan Medina, Reginald Preciado and Luis Gutierrez? What about 2020-21's top 12 signings? Victor Acosta, Victor Lizarraga, Samuel Zavala, Daniel Montesinos, Bradley Rodriguez, Evan Sweeting, Ariel Moreno, Eddy Beltre, Javier Chacon, Heber Villalobos, Jonny Roario, Alejandro Hernandez. Sorry but that's a perfect Ofer 12. Let's try 2022's top 20:Jarlin Susana, Yendry Rojas, Rosman Verdugo, Braian Salazar, Juan Murillo, Maikol Munoz, Estuar Suero, Oliver Cedeno, Alain Camoi, Eizon Delgado, Rafael Nava, Kashon Conliffe, Emmanuel Pinales, Aldo Leija, Wilmer Ramirez, Jefren Tejada, Angel Graza, Francis Pena, Estiven Giron and Xavier Ruiz. Not sure how well-versed you are in the lower Minor leagues of the Padres but I've never heard of any of these 20 names. I'll stop there and give this next couple batches a few years to develop but I'm not holding my breath. Please, in your infinite and historical Padre wisdom give me some names to counter these. And when Preller did manage to foist somebody from those signings onto someone, they rarely turned out to be viable Major Leaguers. AJ has made some good regular trades but International signings on his watch have not been good. AT ALL! It's almost statistically impossible to miss on that many kids, but he did. . |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 3, 2024 13:12:12 GMT -8
Former Padre and current Padre minor leaguer Tucupita Marcano faces a potential lifetime ban for betting on baseball. The Padres are never boring... There could soon be an opening on the 40-man roster. They don't have to make *that* move if they don't want to. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 3, 2024 13:12:30 GMT -8
Preller has definitely not missed on way more than he has hit on international signees. The Padres have utilized them in different ways to achieve different goals. Do you still think Adrian Morejon was worth $11,000,000? How about Jorge Ona for $7,000,000. Here's more International signings from 2016: Luis Almanzar, Gabriel Arias, Jeisson Rosario, Jordy Barley, Justin Lopez and Tirso Ornelas were signed for a collective $7,050,000. See a lot of all-stars there? How about those stellar Major Leaguers Tucupita Marcano and Luis Patino? And who could ever forget other high end signees: Andres Munoz, Emmanuel Class and Michael Baez? Let's try 2017: Do these Top 6 names ring a bell? Manuel Partida, Frank Lopez, Yelson Santana, Nick Rios, Jason Santan and Luis Paez. Was 2018 any different? Charlie Aquino, Euribel Angeles, Albert Fabian, Wilmert Paula, Reginald Dowston, Axcel Peralta, Emmanuel Rodruigez, Jose Velez, Justin Diaz, Edwin Rojas, Addison Moreno. Alex Ramirez, Nerwilliam Cedeno, Wilfredo Tovar, Eduardo Hidalgo, Victor Duarte and Jairo Iriarte. 17 signings 17 misses. 2019 MUST have been a good year though huh? How about $5,000,000 for Ismael Pena, Brayan Medina, Reginald Preciado and Luis Gutierrez? What about 2020-21's top 12 signings? Victor Acosta, Victor Lizarraga, Samuel Zavala, Daniel Montesinos, Bradley Rodriguez, Evan Sweeting, Ariel Moreno, Eddy Beltre, Javier Chacon, Heber Villalobos, Jonny Roario, Alejandro Hernandez. Sorry but that's a perfect Ofer 12. Let's try 2022's top 20:Jarlin Susana, Yendry Rojas, Rosman Verdugo, Braian Salazar, Juan Murillo, Maikol Munoz, Estuar Suero, Oliver Cedeno, Alain Camoi, Eizon Delgado, Rafael Nava, Kashon Conliffe, Emmanuel Pinales, Aldo Leija, Wilmer Ramirez, Jefren Tejada, Angel Graza, Francis Pena, Estiven Giron and Xavier Ruiz. Not sure how well-versed you are in the lower Minor leagues of the Padres but I've never heard of any of these 20 names. I'll stop there and give this next couple batches a few years to develop but I'm not holding my breath. Please, in your infinite and historical Padre wisdom give me some names to counter these. And when Preller did manage to foist somebody from those signings onto someone, they rarely turned out to be viable Major Leaguers. AJ has made some good regular trades but International signings on his watch have not been good. AT ALL! It's almost statistically impossible to miss on that many kids, but he did. . I wouldn't put Morejon on him, dude's been injury riddled, pitching prospects are kind of a roll of the dice with in that sense. Jorge Ona also cannot stay healthy, he looked good when he was healthy a few years ago. It's way to soon to look at 2021 and 2022 prospects. Luis Patiño could still put it together, he's only 24. Tucupita Marcano's gambling issues make him look like a horrible signing now. But yeah, there are a ton of misses and/or marginal big league players in that group. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 3, 2024 13:16:13 GMT -8
There could soon be an opening on the 40-man roster. They don't have to make *that* move if they don't want to. I'd rather have Bauer on our roster then Marcano. Bauer is a better player, and didn't screw up as bad as Marcano. |
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Post by docmm on Jun 3, 2024 13:27:42 GMT -8
Do you still think Adrian Morejon was worth $11,000,000? How about Jorge Ona for $7,000,000. Here's more International signings from 2016: Luis Almanzar, Gabriel Arias, Jeisson Rosario, Jordy Barley, Justin Lopez and Tirso Ornelas were signed for a collective $7,050,000. See a lot of all-stars there? How about those stellar Major Leaguers Tucupita Marcano and Luis Patino? And who could ever forget other high end signees: Andres Munoz, Emmanuel Class and Michael Baez? Let's try 2017: Do these Top 6 names ring a bell? Manuel Partida, Frank Lopez, Yelson Santana, Nick Rios, Jason Santan and Luis Paez. Was 2018 any different? Charlie Aquino, Euribel Angeles, Albert Fabian, Wilmert Paula, Reginald Dowston, Axcel Peralta, Emmanuel Rodruigez, Jose Velez, Justin Diaz, Edwin Rojas, Addison Moreno. Alex Ramirez, Nerwilliam Cedeno, Wilfredo Tovar, Eduardo Hidalgo, Victor Duarte and Jairo Iriarte. 17 signings 17 misses. 2019 MUST have been a good year though huh? How about $5,000,000 for Ismael Pena, Brayan Medina, Reginald Preciado and Luis Gutierrez? What about 2020-21's top 12 signings? Victor Acosta, Victor Lizarraga, Samuel Zavala, Daniel Montesinos, Bradley Rodriguez, Evan Sweeting, Ariel Moreno, Eddy Beltre, Javier Chacon, Heber Villalobos, Jonny Roario, Alejandro Hernandez. Sorry but that's a perfect Ofer 12. Let's try 2022's top 20:Jarlin Susana, Yendry Rojas, Rosman Verdugo, Braian Salazar, Juan Murillo, Maikol Munoz, Estuar Suero, Oliver Cedeno, Alain Camoi, Eizon Delgado, Rafael Nava, Kashon Conliffe, Emmanuel Pinales, Aldo Leija, Wilmer Ramirez, Jefren Tejada, Angel Graza, Francis Pena, Estiven Giron and Xavier Ruiz. Not sure how well-versed you are in the lower Minor leagues of the Padres but I've never heard of any of these 20 names. I'll stop there and give this next couple batches a few years to develop but I'm not holding my breath. Please, in your infinite and historical Padre wisdom give me some names to counter these. And when Preller did manage to foist somebody from those signings onto someone, they rarely turned out to be viable Major Leaguers. AJ has made some good regular trades but International signings on his watch have not been good. AT ALL! It's almost statistically impossible to miss on that many kids, but he did. . I wouldn't put Morejon on him, dude's been injury riddled, pitching prospects are kind of a roll of the dice with in that sense. Jorge Ona also cannot stay healthy, he looked good when he was healthy a few years ago. It's way to soon to look at 2021 and 2022 prospects. Luis Patiño could still put it together, he's only 24. Tucupita Marcano's gambling issues make him look like a horrible signing now. But yeah, there are a ton of misses and/or marginal big league players in that group. You're right that injuries can't be completely dumped on the GM but he DID choose them. Morejon signed 8 years ago and we're finally getting something from him. And that's assuming he doesn't get hurt yet again. It reminds me of all those many many years where the Padres had really high regular draft picks but just kept swinging and missing. Drafting US kids after High School and even younger signings Internationally is such a risk. There are so many things that can go wrong. Patino has either been injured or pitched badly for the last 8 years. And now he has to come back from Tommy John surgery. He's pitched for three different MLB teams and his ERA is over 5.00. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 3, 2024 13:35:06 GMT -8
Preller has definitely not missed on way more than he has hit on international signees. The Padres have utilized them in different ways to achieve different goals. Do you still think Adrian Morejon was worth $11,000,000? How about Jorge Ona for $7,000,000. Here's more International signings from 2016: Luis Almanzar, Gabriel Arias, Jeisson Rosario, Jordy Barley, Justin Lopez and Tirso Ornelas were signed for a collective $7,050,000. See a lot of all-stars there? How about those stellar Major Leaguers Tucupita Marcano and Luis Patino? And who could ever forget other high end signees:Andres Munoz, Emmanuel Class and Michael Baez? Let's try 2017: Do these Top 6 names ring a bell? Manuel Partida, Frank Lopez, Yelson Santana, Nick Rios, Jason Santan and Luis Paez. Was 2018 any different? Charlie Aquino, Euribel Angeles, Albert Fabian, Wilmert Paula, Reginald Dowston, Axcel Peralta, Emmanuel Rodruigez, Jose Velez, Justin Diaz, Edwin Rojas, Addison Moreno. Alex Ramirez, Nerwilliam Cedeno, Wilfredo Tovar, Eduardo Hidalgo, Victor Duarte and Jairo Iriarte. 17 signings 17 misses. 2019 MUST have been a good year though huh? How about $5,000,000 for Ismael Pena, Brayan Medina, Reginald Preciado and Luis Gutierrez? What about 2020-21's top 12 signings? Victor Acosta, Victor Lizarraga, Samuel Zavala, Daniel Montesinos, Bradley Rodriguez, Evan Sweeting, Ariel Moreno, Eddy Beltre, Javier Chacon, Heber Villalobos, Jonny Roario, Alejandro Hernandez. Sorry but that's a perfect Ofer 12. Let's try 2022's top 20:Jarlin Susana, Yendry Rojas, Rosman Verdugo, Braian Salazar, Juan Murillo, Maikol Munoz, Estuar Suero, Oliver Cedeno, Alain Camoi, Eizon Delgado, Rafael Nava, Kashon Conliffe, Emmanuel Pinales, Aldo Leija, Wilmer Ramirez, Jefren Tejada, Angel Graza, Francis Pena, Estiven Giron and Xavier Ruiz. Not sure how well-versed you are in the lower Minor leagues of the Padres but I've never heard of any of these 20 names. I'll stop there and give this next couple batches a few years to develop but I'm not holding my breath. Please, in your infinite and historical Padre wisdom give me some names to counter these. And when Preller did manage to foist somebody from those signings onto someone, they rarely turned out to be viable Major Leaguers. AJ has made some good regular trades but International signings on his watch have not been good. AT ALL! It's almost statistically impossible to miss on that many kids, but he did. . If Morejon turns into what he is now? Hell yeah I think that's a worthwhile investment, even if it took injuries and time to get there. He's still just 25. Oña was plagued by injuries, specifically shoulder injuries and his body just betrayed him. It happens. What you're talking about is the hardest part of the sport, you're betting on international teenagers who are verbally agreeing to deals when they are 12 and 13 years old. The natural attrition of the sport is hard enough on its own. That 2016 class, comprehensively, for what they spent under the previous rule system, yeah, it wasn't great. You typically sign 30-40 players per class to fill out DSL rosters since you're now limited to 165 players on domestic rosters under the new CBA. Some of the deals are for less than $10,000. The expectation is the majority will bust, so I guess in that regard, you may have a point. It really depends on the lens you view it through. Hard to tell if you're being serious with some of the names, but guys like Andres Muñoz and Emmanuel Clase are two of the better relievers in baseball. Muñoz blew out his elbow prior to being traded and Clase was perhaps the worst trade Preller has made to date. Other guys on that list were used to trade for Darvish, Soto, Musgrove, Snell, Cease and many others. I'm very well-versed, I covered the farm system for two years doing daily recaps for the top Padre minor league website around and I watch all of the minor league games pretty much daily. The Padres signed the consensus number one player in the last two classes and that's pretty much unheard of in the new signing bonus pool era. Guys like Francis Peña (recently sent to Double-A) and Pinales (one of the breakouts in the system this year) are guys I would keep an eye on. Bradgley Rodriguez, too. You almost have to separate the two eras because they are completely different now that the minors have been restructured and the bonus pool system has been instituted. The Padres traded for Tatis before he ever played a game in the minors. They nearly signed Soto as an amateur. Those departments have done good work. |
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