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Post by docmm on Sept 14, 2024 5:31:36 GMT -8
Hat trick for Cronenworth tonight. Ugh.
At least the rest of the team is picking him up. Good win. Good way to start the series with a shutout, too. Seems like there's been more attention lately in different articles, talk radio etc about why Merrill should maybe switch places in the batting order with Cronenworth. And the only argument against it is either "why mess with something that is working" or "we don't want to put more pressure on a young kid". The first one makes no sense as the change could potentially make things even better given how the two guys have performed all year so far. The second one seems to ignore the fact that he's one of our two best hitters in pressure situations and the moment has never seemed too big for him. And moving Cronenwworth down would take some of the pressure off of him which couldn't hurt. I would at least hope they try it out during the White Sox series.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 14, 2024 7:27:15 GMT -8
Hat trick for Cronenworth tonight. Ugh.
At least the rest of the team is picking him up. Good win. Good way to start the series with a shutout, too. Seems like there's been more attention lately in different articles, talk radio etc about why Merrill should maybe switch places in the batting order with Cronenworth. And the only argument against it is either "why mess with something that is working" or "we don't want to put more pressure on a young kid". The first one makes no sense as the change could potentially make things even better given how the two guys have performed all year so far. The second one seems to ignore the fact that he's one of our two best hitters in pressure situations and the moment has never seemed too big for him. And moving Cronenwworth down would take some of the pressure off of him which couldn't hurt. I would at least hope they try it out during the White Sox series. No.
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Post by docmm on Sept 14, 2024 8:52:35 GMT -8
Seems like there's been more attention lately in different articles, talk radio etc about why Merrill should maybe switch places in the batting order with Cronenworth. And the only argument against it is either "why mess with something that is working" or "we don't want to put more pressure on a young kid". The first one makes no sense as the change could potentially make things even better given how the two guys have performed all year so far. The second one seems to ignore the fact that he's one of our two best hitters in pressure situations and the moment has never seemed too big for him. And moving Cronenwworth down would take some of the pressure off of him which couldn't hurt. I would at least hope they try it out during the White Sox series. No. Glad you're leaving some wiggle-room there with your answer. Even you can't possibly think by switching two players in the batting order between 5th and 7th you're going to wreck the chemistry of our team against possibly the worst team in the history of modern baseball. You're not losing any righty-lefty-righty combos. We're not talking about Cronenworth batting 3rd any more, we're talking 5th. Your adamance about simply trying something out in a less than regularly competitive environment is kind of ridiculous. Giving Merrill the possibility of an extra AB and with the possibility of having more runners on base when he bats is worth your apparent high risk.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 14, 2024 9:10:21 GMT -8
Hat trick for Cronenworth tonight. Ugh.
At least the rest of the team is picking him up. Good win. Good way to start the series with a shutout, too. Seems like there's been more attention lately in different articles, talk radio etc about why Merrill should maybe switch places in the batting order with Cronenworth. And the only argument against it is either "why mess with something that is working" or "we don't want to put more pressure on a young kid". The first one makes no sense as the change could potentially make things even better given how the two guys have performed all year so far. The second one seems to ignore the fact that he's one of our two best hitters in pressure situations and the moment has never seemed too big for him. And moving Cronenwworth down would take some of the pressure off of him which couldn't hurt. I would at least hope they try it out during the White Sox series. Yes, the more at bats for Merrill, the better. He's different.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 14, 2024 9:15:20 GMT -8
Glad you're leaving some wiggle-room there with your answer. Even you can't possibly think by switching two players in the batting order between 5th and 7th you're going to wreck the chemistry of our team against possibly the worst team in the history of modern baseball. You're not losing any righty-lefty-righty combos. We're not talking about Cronenworth batting 3rd any more, we're talking 5th. Your adamance about simply trying something out in a less than regularly competitive environment is kind of ridiculous. Giving Merrill the possibility of an extra AB and with the possibility of having more runners on base when he bats is worth your apparent high risk. Wrecking chemistry? No. Why would you change your lineup for one series? Beyond silly. Are you going to change it back after the White Sox are out of town? What's worked all season? THINK. Merrill being in the bottom half of the order allows you to lengthen your lineup and have another guy down there to help turn the lineup over. It's been their M.O. all year, and you want them to change it now, based on....something? with a handful of games to go in the season. www.si.com/mlb/padres/san-diego-padres-news/why-haven-t-the-padres-moved-up-jackson-merrill-in-the-batting-order-01j6nf71bh2xFind another punching bag.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 14, 2024 9:44:52 GMT -8
Insufferable people who have to find something negative to fixate on when the team is going to post one of the best seasons in franchise history.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 14, 2024 10:16:16 GMT -8
Insufferable people who have to find something negative to fixate on when the team is going to post one of the best seasons in franchise history. Using the word insufferable is a little rich, but I do lean towards not fixing what's broke. At the same time, I would be absolutely fine with Merrill hitting third, and getting him more at bats. As a side note, I know you were against his contract, but he's a very valuable asset since he can play many positions. I'm a huge Croney fan and I like how he has the knack to drive in runs.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 14, 2024 10:22:17 GMT -8
Insufferable people who have to find something negative to fixate on when the team is going to post one of the best seasons in franchise history. Using the word insufferable is a little rich, but I do lean towards not fixing what's broke. At the same time, I would be absolutely fine with Merrill hitting third, and getting him more at bats. As a side note, I'm a huge Croney fan and I like how he has the knack to drive in runs. It's not at all. Team wins in dominant fashion in a shutout? Let's bring up Cronenworth striking out three times. Team wins in dominant fashion? Let's bring up ______ grounding into a double play that meant nothing. Bullpen gives up a run? Sky is falling. Suarez blows a save? Sky is falling. Your nine hitter isn't producing offensively? Let's start a multi-page diatribe on a minor leaguer. Merrill isn't going to hit third at any point the remainder of the year. It's a stupid argument to even make. I was against the extension because it wasn't necessary, he was under club control already at a cheap rate and extending everyone into their late 30's isn't great business. And Cronenworth hits fifth now that Tatis is back, not third anymore. If Tatis had remained out, Cronenworth would have remained in the third spot. He's handled right-handed pitching very well all year and has been more than fine in that spot.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 14, 2024 10:40:25 GMT -8
A lot of Merrill'a success this year is about consistency and NOT tinkering with his spot in the lineup and yo-yoing him into different spots. He's allowed to produce without the pressure of batting in a premium spot, allowed to make adjustments in a lower pressure environment and allowed to thrive at the bottom of the order to add stability and depth. He's still 21 years old. The team is still winning. Don't fix what isn't broken.
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Post by junior on Sept 14, 2024 12:57:36 GMT -8
Using the word insufferable is a little rich, but I do lean towards not fixing what's broke. At the same time, I would be absolutely fine with Merrill hitting third, and getting him more at bats. As a side note, I'm a huge Croney fan and I like how he has the knack to drive in runs. It's not at all. Team wins in dominant fashion in a shutout? Let's bring up Cronenworth striking out three times. Team wins in dominant fashion? Let's bring up ______ grounding into a double play that meant nothing. Bullpen gives up a run? Sky is falling. Suarez blows a save? Sky is falling. Your nine hitter isn't producing offensively? Let's start a multi-page diatribe on a minor leaguer. Merrill isn't going to hit third at any point the remainder of the year. It's a stupid argument to even make. I was against the extension because it wasn't necessary, he was under club control already at a cheap rate and extending everyone into their late 30's isn't great business. And Cronenworth hits fifth now that Tatis is back, not third anymore. If Tatis had remained out, Cronenworth would have remained in the third spot. He's handled right-handed pitching very well all year and has been more than fine in that spot.
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 14, 2024 13:18:58 GMT -8
I think having lineup balance is a good thing
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 14, 2024 13:27:08 GMT -8
I think having lineup balance is a good thing Shildt and Rodriguez agree.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 14, 2024 13:27:45 GMT -8
It's not at all. Team wins in dominant fashion in a shutout? Let's bring up Cronenworth striking out three times. Team wins in dominant fashion? Let's bring up ______ grounding into a double play that meant nothing. Bullpen gives up a run? Sky is falling. Suarez blows a save? Sky is falling. Your nine hitter isn't producing offensively? Let's start a multi-page diatribe on a minor leaguer. Merrill isn't going to hit third at any point the remainder of the year. It's a stupid argument to even make. I was against the extension because it wasn't necessary, he was under club control already at a cheap rate and extending everyone into their late 30's isn't great business. And Cronenworth hits fifth now that Tatis is back, not third anymore. If Tatis had remained out, Cronenworth would have remained in the third spot. He's handled right-handed pitching very well all year and has been more than fine in that spot. You're not alone.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 14, 2024 14:04:23 GMT -8
Hey, Merrill up to fifth in the lineup.
The masses get their wish. Kudos. Maybe Shildt has a burner here...
Not a fan of the move, personally, but we'll see if it's permanent.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 14, 2024 15:44:02 GMT -8
Mets lose today, and Dodgers have fallen behind early.
Let's go Brewers!!!
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Post by aardvark on Sept 14, 2024 17:07:33 GMT -8
More help--Braves beating the Dodgers 4-1 in the 6th, and the Brewers pounding the D-Backs early, 8-0.
Let's go, boys, and take advantage.
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Post by junior on Sept 14, 2024 17:13:51 GMT -8
Padres jump out to a first inning lead again … good to see Solano in there, too. Doubles right off the bat. Then watches a ball go through his legs. D'oh! E-3
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Post by aardvark on Sept 14, 2024 17:21:28 GMT -8
Actually, it might be better for the Dodgers to mix in a win or two against Atlanta.
But it's tough to cheer for the Dodgers.
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Post by junior on Sept 14, 2024 17:43:46 GMT -8
Braves pounding the dudders and the Braves replacements are doing the same to AZ.
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Post by junior on Sept 14, 2024 19:18:09 GMT -8
Everybody's hitting tonight! Well, almost everybody.
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