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Post by junior on Sept 10, 2024 20:36:53 GMT -8
Guess Shildt WILL "be moving guys around this late in the season". I think in large part, the seeming reality of Kim potentially not returning at all this season made a few decisions like this one much easier to justify. "It's not necessarily a setback, it just wasn't a move forward." says Shidt. But there is a likelihood that what they're seeing - or not seeing - is a setback that's not moving Kim forward. Glad someone had the fortitude to make the position changes.
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Post by junior on Sept 10, 2024 20:39:02 GMT -8
Suarez shakes it off with the 4 out save.
Yu gets a well deserved win.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 10, 2024 20:51:50 GMT -8
Manny breaks Nate's Padre HR record with #164. Sky's the limit. RIP Nate. You started it all. As a kid back then we went to all the home games - Nate Colbert was one of the few stars they had on the team back then. Downtown Ollie Brown was another - so was Cito Gaston, but Nate was the man. Can't remember exactly what happened in 1974 - part of it was the acquisition of Willie McCovey to play first base - Nate was moved to LF - and part of it was his back, but his career went downhill rapidly after he was traded to Detroit. He didn't have a long career after that, his 163 HR for the Padres were pretty much the bulk of his homers as a major leaguer (173). I used to love to hear the announcer say, "Now batting, Number 11 Little Enzo (pause) Herrrrrrnandezzzzzzz!!! Good times.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 10, 2024 20:53:37 GMT -8
Like I said, your stars need to be stars. Starting pitching: Two earned runs. Tatis and Machado: Seven RBI in a 7-2 game. We don't lose many/any games when that happens.
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 10, 2024 20:59:21 GMT -8
Like I said, your stars need to be stars. Starting pitching: Two earned runs. Tatis and Machado: Seven RBI in a 7-2 game. And yet it was Solano batting 8'th who scored two runs. Guys batting at the bottom of the order matter, because if they can get on base, they have a solid chance of scoring with the top of the lineup. When guys like Solano get on base, it allows your stars to be stars.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 10, 2024 21:01:09 GMT -8
Starting pitching: Two earned runs. Tatis and Machado: Seven RBI in a 7-2 game. And yet it was Solano batting 8'th who scored two runs. Guys batting at the bottom of the order matter, because if they can get on base, they have a solid chance of scoring with the top of the lineup. When guys like Solano get on base, it allows your stars to be stars. Solano over McCoy on the offensive end. What a beautiful thing.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 10, 2024 21:20:02 GMT -8
Guess Shildt WILL "be moving guys around this late in the season". I think in large part, the seeming reality of Kim potentially not returning at all this season made a few decisions like this one much easier to justify. "It's not necessarily a setback, it just wasn't a move forward." says Shidt. But there is a likelihood that what they're seeing - or not seeing - is a setback that's not moving Kim forward. Glad someone had the fortitude to make the position changes. More or less. They've wanted to get Solano more playing time for a while, but I'm assuming they would rather it not be at the expense of losing Kim.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 10, 2024 21:20:46 GMT -8
Starting pitching: Two earned runs. Tatis and Machado: Seven RBI in a 7-2 game. And yet it was Solano batting 8'th who scored two runs. Guys batting at the bottom of the order matter, because if they can get on base, they have a solid chance of scoring with the top of the lineup. When guys like Solano get on base, it allows your stars to be stars. Well yeah, but they still have to be driven in. The bottom of the lineup has been very good for most of the year.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 10, 2024 22:06:28 GMT -8
And yet it was Solano batting 8'th who scored two runs. Guys batting at the bottom of the order matter, because if they can get on base, they have a solid chance of scoring with the top of the lineup. When guys like Solano get on base, it allows your stars to be stars. Well yeah, but they still have to be driven in. The bottom of the lineup has been very good for most of the year. Which is where Merrill has been. Hmmmm...
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 10, 2024 22:23:15 GMT -8
Well yeah, but they still have to be driven in. The bottom of the lineup has been very good for most of the year. Which is where Merrill has been. Hmmmm... Not just him. Higashioka with a career high in home runs, Peralta with some very key moments, etc. Lot of guys stepped up big.
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Post by docmm on Sept 11, 2024 4:01:03 GMT -8
FanGraphs, whose %s have been used on this thread this season has us at a 95.1% likelihood of making the playoffs but in the last 16 games they only have us favored in 6 of them. That would give us an 88-74 record
They have Arizona favored in 14 of their 17 remaining games which would give them a 96-67 record. Yet it gives them only an 88.9% to make the playoffs.
Aztecryan, could you explain that please as I know you know numbers and stats better than the rest of us. (no sarcasm)
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Post by docmm on Sept 11, 2024 6:00:40 GMT -8
Apparently, not being on the 40-man roster doesn't preclude the Padres from easily bring up Ahmd if they choose to do so.
From Kevin Acee this morning: "Veteran shortstop Nick Ahmed, signed on Aug. 31 to a minor-league deal is getting at-bats against minor-league pitchers at the Padres’ complex in Peoria, Ariz. Since he is not on the 40-man roster (and was not by Sept. 1) Ahmed could be called up at any time during the regular season but could only be added to the postseason roster as a replacement for an injured player."
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Sept 11, 2024 6:11:28 GMT -8
Manny breaks Nate's Padre HR record with #164. Sky's the limit. RIP Nate. You started it all. As a kid back then we went to all the home games - Nate Colbert was one of the few stars they had on the team back then. Downtown Ollie Brown was another - so was Cito Gaston, but Nate was the man. Can't remember exactly what happened in 1974 - part of it was the acquisition of Willie McCovey to play first base - Nate was moved to LF - and part of it was his back, but his career went downhill rapidly after he was traded to Detroit. He didn't have a long career after that, his 163 HR for the Padres were pretty much the bulk of his homers as a major leaguer (173). I used to love to hear the announcer say, "Now batting, Number 11 Little Enzo (pause) Herrrrrrnandezzzzzzz!!! Good times. That announcer was John DeMott.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 11, 2024 6:58:52 GMT -8
I used to love to hear the announcer say, "Now batting, Number 11 Little Enzo (pause) Herrrrrrnandezzzzzzz!!! Good times. That announcer was John DeMott. That's the name!!! Thanks.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 11, 2024 7:51:49 GMT -8
Apparently, not being on the 40-man roster doesn't preclude the Padres from easily bring up Ahmd if they choose to do so. From Kevin Acee this morning: "Veteran shortstop Nick Ahmed, signed on Aug. 31 to a minor-league deal is getting at-bats against minor-league pitchers at the Padres’ complex in Peoria, Ariz. Since he is not on the 40-man roster (and was not by Sept. 1) Ahmed could be called up at any time during the regular season but could only be added to the postseason roster as a replacement for an injured player." It would still require corresponding moves...I've never seen someone advocate so hard for a guy who is legitimately terrible.
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Post by docmm on Sept 11, 2024 8:36:39 GMT -8
Apparently, not being on the 40-man roster doesn't preclude the Padres from easily bring up Ahmd if they choose to do so. From Kevin Acee this morning: "Veteran shortstop Nick Ahmed, signed on Aug. 31 to a minor-league deal is getting at-bats against minor-league pitchers at the Padres’ complex in Peoria, Ariz. Since he is not on the 40-man roster (and was not by Sept. 1) Ahmed could be called up at any time during the regular season but could only be added to the postseason roster as a replacement for an injured player." It would still require corresponding moves...I've never seen someone advocate so hard for a guy who is legitimately terrible. Now that McCoy is out of the daily lineup I don't care. I just couldn't stand watching yet another O-fer from him without possibly trying someone else who had way more MLB experience. I brought it up because I thought you were implying that to bring him up during the season would be overly complicated and problematic overall to our 40-man roster. Acee's quote made it sound much more simple than that and that it was something that at least someone in the organization either was considering or had considered. Otherwise, why would he say it?
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 11, 2024 8:52:43 GMT -8
It would still require corresponding moves...I've never seen someone advocate so hard for a guy who is legitimately terrible. Now that McCoy is out of the daily lineup I don't care. I just couldn't stand watching yet another O-fer from him without possibly trying someone else who had way more MLB experience. I brought it up because I thought you were implying that to bring him up during the season would be overly complicated and problematic overall to our 40-man roster. Acee's quote made it sound much more simple than that and that it was something that at least someone in the organization either was considering or had considered. Otherwise, why would he say it? McCoy: 56 wRC+. Ahmed: 62 wRC+. When you're cut from two teams because you can't hit or play defense....you'd have the same exact complaints, well, maybe not....since this one is very hollow. You're only allowed 28 active players in September. 14 of them are pitchers, 14 of them are position players. Tatis Machado Bogaerts Merrill Profar Arraez Solano Higashioka Diaz Campusano Cronenworth Wade McCoy Peralta That's 14. If you're arguing for a straight swap of McCoy (who will likely never play) for Ahmed (who will likely never play) it's a lateral move, at best. You'd only use Ahmed defensively, and he's not an upgrade there, either. The move to make, like I said days ago, is to call Lockridge up. As far as I know, Acee is wrong.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 11, 2024 11:23:46 GMT -8
It would still require corresponding moves...I've never seen someone advocate so hard for a guy who is legitimately terrible. Now that McCoy is out of the daily lineup I don't care. I just couldn't stand watching yet another O-fer from him without possibly trying someone else who had way more MLB experience. I brought it up because I thought you were implying that to bring him up during the season would be overly complicated and problematic overall to our 40-man roster. Acee's quote made it sound much more simple than that and that it was something that at least someone in the organization either was considering or had considered. Otherwise, why would he say it? I confirmed this with another source. He can't be called up without being added to the 40-man first, which would require a corresponding move, assuming the 40-man is full. Another move would be made to get him on the 28-man active roster. So, no, he can't be just called up whenever.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 11, 2024 12:26:06 GMT -8
Now that McCoy is out of the daily lineup I don't care. I just couldn't stand watching yet another O-fer from him without possibly trying someone else who had way more MLB experience. I brought it up because I thought you were implying that to bring him up during the season would be overly complicated and problematic overall to our 40-man roster. Acee's quote made it sound much more simple than that and that it was something that at least someone in the organization either was considering or had considered. Otherwise, why would he say it? McCoy: 56 wRC+. Ahmed: 62 wRC+. When you're cut from two teams because you can't hit or play defense....you'd have the same exact complaints, well, maybe not....since this one is very hollow. You're only allowed 28 active players in September. 14 of them are pitchers, 14 of them are position players. Tatis Machado Bogaerts Merrill Profar Arraez Solano Higashioka Diaz Campusano Cronenworth Wade McCoy Peralta That's 14. If you're arguing for a straight swap of McCoy (who will likely never play) for Ahmed (who will likely never play) it's a lateral move, at best. You'd only use Ahmed defensively, and he's not an upgrade there, either. The move to make, like I said days ago, is to call Lockridge up. As far as I know, Acee is wrong. What?? Acee is wrong?? That can't be!!
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 11, 2024 12:29:05 GMT -8
McCoy: 56 wRC+. Ahmed: 62 wRC+. When you're cut from two teams because you can't hit or play defense....you'd have the same exact complaints, well, maybe not....since this one is very hollow. You're only allowed 28 active players in September. 14 of them are pitchers, 14 of them are position players. Tatis Machado Bogaerts Merrill Profar Arraez Solano Higashioka Diaz Campusano Cronenworth Wade McCoy Peralta That's 14. If you're arguing for a straight swap of McCoy (who will likely never play) for Ahmed (who will likely never play) it's a lateral move, at best. You'd only use Ahmed defensively, and he's not an upgrade there, either. The move to make, like I said days ago, is to call Lockridge up. As far as I know, Acee is wrong. What?? Acee is wrong?? That can't be!! The way it was worded was so bizarre, I had to confirm that I didn't miss some kind of weird rule change in the CBA or something.
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