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Post by azson on Jul 30, 2024 14:22:43 GMT -8
We have a strong bullpen now!!! After giving up 3 of the top 5 from the farm, I'd hope so.
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Post by docmm on Jul 30, 2024 14:23:02 GMT -8
It's not just that they gave up 4 prospects, 3 of whom could turn out to be pretty good, but you're getting a 30 year-old guy who's having a good year but only started pitching well last year, mostly as a setup guy. He had a 2.31 ERA but had a 1.44 WHIP and he blew 25% of his Save opportunities.
He's been much better this year but HE'S A FREE AGENT AFTER THIS SEASON!!!! WTF?
That's an expensive rental and I don't mean $$.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 14:23:45 GMT -8
We have a strong bullpen now!!! After giving up 3 of the top 5 from the farm, I'd hope so. They kept the two that mattered.
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Post by junior on Jul 30, 2024 14:24:09 GMT -8
Padres traded Enyel De Los Santos to the Yankees. They can have him. Sure he's a great guy, but good riddance.
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Post by azson on Jul 30, 2024 14:24:54 GMT -8
After giving up 3 of the top 5 from the farm, I'd hope so. They kept the two that mattered. So what grade would you give AJ on this TD?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 14:26:08 GMT -8
They kept the two that mattered. So what grade would you give AJ on this TD? Underwhelmed by not getting a starter when you paid crazy prices for bullpen help. You make the Adam trade or the Scott trade, not both. Would have preferred to sell, like I said before.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 30, 2024 14:27:56 GMT -8
Not relative to what others are getting, but I'm still unhappy that we are giving up Mazur AND Snelling. We have... what, Jackson Wolf now as a potential starter of the future in our system? Still, the Padres track record with actually developing pitching talent - as it relates to getting them through their farm system and into the rotation - has been abysmal. Wish I knew more about what the deal is with that. Sure, it takes much longer to bring a pitcher along than a position player, but who was the last drafted pitcher to make it all the way in the Padres organization from A league into the Padres starting rotation? Snelling was getting beat up in AA, and Mazur was a pretty much a disappointment here. We could cite others who got away and have made good elsewhere … but what's to say their new team's pitching coaches didn't make most of the difference in their success? Adam Mazur is 23 years old. He was drafted in the 2022 draft. Snelling is only 20 and was aggressively promoted to AA.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 14:30:46 GMT -8
Still, the Padres track record with actually developing pitching talent - as it relates to getting them through their farm system and into the rotation - has been abysmal. Wish I knew more about what the deal is with that. Sure, it takes much longer to bring a pitcher along than a position player, but who was the last drafted pitcher to make it all the way in the Padres organization from A league into the Padres starting rotation? Snelling was getting beat up in AA, and Mazur was a pretty much a disappointment here. We could cite others who got away and have made good elsewhere … but what's to say their new team's pitching coaches didn't make most of the difference in their success? Adam Mazur is 23 years old. He was drafted in the 2022 draft. Snelling is only 20 and was aggressively promoted to AA. Smelling has taken massive developmental steps backwards this year and was set to fall out of the top 100.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 30, 2024 14:30:55 GMT -8
So what grade would you give AJ on this TD? Underwhelmed by not getting a starter when you paid crazy prices for bullpen help. You make the Adam trade or the Scott trade, not both. Would have preferred to sell, like I said before. We got Martin Perez, a rental SP
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Post by azson on Jul 30, 2024 14:31:49 GMT -8
So what grade would you give AJ on this TD? Underwhelmed by not getting a starter when you paid crazy prices for bullpen help. You make the Adam trade or the Scott trade, not both. Would have preferred to sell, like I said before. Was this perhaps a sign that we'll be seeing Joe & Yu back by playoffs?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 14:34:32 GMT -8
Underwhelmed by not getting a starter when you paid crazy prices for bullpen help. You make the Adam trade or the Scott trade, not both. Would have preferred to sell, like I said before. Was this perhaps a sign that we'll be seeing Joe & Yu back by playoffs? That's what you have to hope for.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 30, 2024 14:34:51 GMT -8
Adam Mazur is 23 years old. He was drafted in the 2022 draft. Snelling is only 20 and was aggressively promoted to AA. Smelling has taken massive developmental steps backwards this year and was set to fall out of the top 100. You're not wrong, but he's still an incredible lefty SP prospect. Players like Snelling don't exactly grow on trees.
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Post by survalli on Jul 30, 2024 14:35:14 GMT -8
Not relative to what others are getting, but I'm still unhappy that we are giving up Mazur AND Snelling. We have... what, Jackson Wolf now as a potential starter of the future in our system? Still, the Padres track record with actually developing pitching talent - as it relates to getting them through their farm system and into the rotation - has been abysmal. Wish I knew more about what the deal is with that. Sure, it takes much longer to bring a pitcher along than a position player, but who was the last drafted pitcher to make it all the way in the Padres organization from A league into the Padres starting rotation? Snelling was getting beat up in AA, and Mazur was a pretty much a disappointment here. We could cite others who got away and have made good elsewhere … but what's to say their new team's pitching coaches didn't make most of the difference in their success? and yet take a look at River Ryan, Ryan Weathers, Cal Quantril, Colin Rea.. among recents.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 14:42:15 GMT -8
Smelling has taken massive developmental steps backwards this year and was set to fall out of the top 100. You're not wrong, but he's still an incredible lefty SP prospect. Players like Snelling don't exactly grow on trees. He was already replaced by Kash Mayfield.
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Post by survalli on Jul 30, 2024 14:42:25 GMT -8
Adam Mazur is 23 years old. He was drafted in the 2022 draft. Snelling is only 20 and was aggressively promoted to AA. Smelling has taken massive developmental steps backwards this year and was set to fall out of the top 100. the entire farm system took a development step back, and, its as if we are afraid to send prospects to Triple A where they risk being exposed, like Pauley. so we hide them in High A until we can trade them.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 14:43:29 GMT -8
Smelling has taken massive developmental steps backwards this year and was set to fall out of the top 100. the entire farm system took a development step back, and, its as if we are afraid to send prospects to Triple A where they risk being exposed, like Pauley. so we hide them in High A until we can trade them. Yes and no. They draft high-ceiling types that are desirable to other organizations and then use them as commodities to get more established players.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 30, 2024 14:45:16 GMT -8
We have a strong bullpen now!!! After giving up 3 of the top 5 from the farm, I'd hope so. That's what I'm saying.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 30, 2024 14:48:10 GMT -8
You're not wrong, but he's still an incredible lefty SP prospect. Players like Snelling don't exactly grow on trees. He was already replaced by Kash Mayfield. I get what you're saying.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 14:49:20 GMT -8
He was already replaced by Kash Mayfield. I get what you're saying. Snelling was 100% going to be traded at the deadline. It was just a matter of who the receiving party was going to be.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 30, 2024 14:51:00 GMT -8
Is Brandon Lockridge (acquired from the Yankees) going to be the new defensive replacement outfielder for the Padres?
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