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Post by Old School on Aug 28, 2023 9:57:56 GMT -8
Depends if he wants to play NOW or he's willing to wait his turn.
Oldie Out
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 28, 2023 10:14:21 GMT -8
NO! Look at his history. Same with Dior Johnson who also just went back in the portal. Both would be terrible teammates IMO, and only serve as cancers long term.
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Post by hoobs on Aug 28, 2023 10:15:03 GMT -8
"He will likely need a waiver to play this upcoming season."
Sounds like he will most likely have to wait until 2024-2025, when SDSU will certainly have wing minutes available. In Dutch I trust. (aimed at the notion sdcoug notes...)
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 28, 2023 10:59:32 GMT -8
"He will likely need a waiver to play this upcoming season." Sounds like he will most likely have to wait until 2024-2025, w hen SDSU will certainly have wing minutes available. In Dutch I trust. (aimed at the notion sdcoug notes...)Waters, Byrd & Parrish are all eligible to return. Talent wise he's terrific, but does anyone believe he wouldn't bail at the first sign of adversity? He gives me visions of Gill-Ceasar who quit after the 6th game.
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Post by Gundo on Aug 28, 2023 11:05:27 GMT -8
"He will likely need a waiver to play this upcoming season." Sounds like he will most likely have to wait until 2024-2025, w hen SDSU will certainly have wing minutes available. In Dutch I trust. (aimed at the notion sdcoug notes...)Waters, Byrd & Parrish are all eligible to return. Talent wise he's terrific, but does anyone believe he wouldn't bail at the first sign of adversity? He gives me visions of Gill-Ceasar who quit after the 6th game. SDUT 12/30/2017 www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/sd-sp-sdsu-basketball-gill-caesar-20171230-story.html#:~:text=He%20hurt%20his%20back%20mid,took%20far%20longer%20than%20anticipated. “I was going through a lot of physical things,” Gill-Caesar said last season, “and they turn into mental things.” He hurt his back mid-way through his freshman season at Missouri that lingered through the spring and summer. He had surgery during his redshirt season to remove a cyst in his knee, and the rehab took far longer than anticipated. He had a solid summer of 2017 – coaches said he was often the best player on the floor – but couldn’t stay healthy through the preseason and now the regular season.
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Post by jp92grad on Aug 28, 2023 11:21:41 GMT -8
"He will likely need a waiver to play this upcoming season." Sounds like he will most likely have to wait until 2024-2025, w hen SDSU will certainly have wing minutes available. In Dutch I trust. (aimed at the notion sdcoug notes...)Waters, Byrd & Parrish are all eligible to return. Talent wise he's terrific, but does anyone believe he wouldn't bail at the first sign of adversity? He gives me visions of Gill-Ceasar who quit after the 6th game. I think this season will be the last for Parrish, it's his 4th and final season he didn't RS and has no Covid year (2019-20)
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 28, 2023 11:33:16 GMT -8
Waters, Byrd & Parrish are all eligible to return. Talent wise he's terrific, but does anyone believe he wouldn't bail at the first sign of adversity? He gives me visions of Gill-Ceasar who quit after the 6th game. I think this season will be the last for Parrish, it's his 4th and final season he didn't RS and has no Covid year (2019-20) Covid year is 2021, not 2020. He played at Oakland. He has 2 years of eligibility.
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 28, 2023 11:42:28 GMT -8
Waters, Byrd & Parrish are all eligible to return. Talent wise he's terrific, but does anyone believe he wouldn't bail at the first sign of adversity? He gives me visions of Gill-Ceasar who quit after the 6th game. SDUT 12/30/2017 www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/sd-sp-sdsu-basketball-gill-caesar-20171230-story.html#:~:text=He%20hurt%20his%20back%20mid,took%20far%20longer%20than%20anticipated. “I was going through a lot of physical things,” Gill-Caesar said last season, “and they turn into mental things.” He hurt his back mid-way through his freshman season at Missouri that lingered through the spring and summer. He had surgery during his redshirt season to remove a cyst in his knee, and the rehab took far longer than anticipated. He had a solid summer of 2017 – coaches said he was often the best player on the floor – but couldn’t stay healthy through the preseason and now the regular season. He was hurt, often, but he quit due to a lack of playing time. Or at least that played into it. I remember hanging after a game outside the tournament at CSUF in 2017 (2018 season) & he was on the phone with someone about 15 feet from me bitching about the coaching staff and saying he was sick of not getting the minutes he though he deserved. It was after the Georgia game when he didn't play at all. Saw him playing in the Swish league a few years ago. Believe he played pro somewhere after the season he quit.
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Post by fisherville on Aug 28, 2023 12:06:09 GMT -8
NO! Look at his history. Same with Dior Johnson who also just went back in the portal. Both would be terrible teammates IMO, and only serve as cancers long term. The 2 aren’t even comparable, Dior is a abuser.
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Post by jp92grad on Aug 28, 2023 12:09:43 GMT -8
I think this season will be the last for Parrish, it's his 4th and final season he didn't RS and has no Covid year (2019-20) Covid year is 2021, not 2020. He played at Oakland. He has 2 years of eligibility. NICE, If Waters is as good as people are saying and having him and Parrish for the next two season should be exciting.
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 28, 2023 12:19:10 GMT -8
Covid year is 2021, not 2020. He played at Oakland. He has 2 years of eligibility. NICE, If Waters is as good as people are saying and having him and Parrish for the next two season should be exciting. Agreed. Those 2+ Saunders, Byrd, etc. is a strong core. Maybe Butler. I keep hearing & more good things about Waters. "Our best shooter"; "will lead team in scoring"; etc. Saw him play in Swish once & he couldn't hit anything, so good to hear the positive practice reports. I do think Parrish takes a huge step forward this year. It'll be interesting playing a lot of small ball with Trammell, Butler, Waters, Parrish & Ledee. So much speed!!
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Post by standiego on Aug 28, 2023 12:30:51 GMT -8
would guess that Dutcher has contacts with the Zags as they have arranged to play a series of games so he should be able to get some background on the guy - then decide if it is worth the time to talk with the player
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Post by docmm on Aug 28, 2023 16:53:38 GMT -8
Saw Saunders on Instagram and he was ripped. Can't wait to see him down low. Ike is at Gonzaga now and he lived in the paint at Wyoming.
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 28, 2023 23:08:54 GMT -8
NICE, If Waters is as good as people are saying and having him and Parrish for the next two season should be exciting. Agreed. Those 2+ Saunders, Byrd, etc. is a strong core. Maybe Butler. I keep hearing & more good things about Waters. "Our best shooter"; "will lead team in scoring"; etc. Saw him play in Swish once & he couldn't hit anything, so good to hear the positive practice reports. I do think Parrish takes a huge step forward this year. It'll be interesting playing a lot of small ball with Trammell, Butler, Waters, Parrish & Ledee. So much speed!! You must be pessimistic on DeMarshay's ability to get minutes if you see us playing a lot of small ball lineups. Because Pal is a pretty good transfer at the 4, and Saunders is incredibly talented at the 4 as well (both get 20+ minutes a a game this year)
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 29, 2023 6:35:34 GMT -8
Agreed. Those 2+ Saunders, Byrd, etc. is a strong core. Maybe Butler. I keep hearing & more good things about Waters. "Our best shooter"; "will lead team in scoring"; etc. Saw him play in Swish once & he couldn't hit anything, so good to hear the positive practice reports. I do think Parrish takes a huge step forward this year. It'll be interesting playing a lot of small ball with Trammell, Butler, Waters, Parrish & Ledee. So much speed!! You must be pessimistic on DeMarshay's ability to get minutes if you see us playing a lot of small ball lineups. Because Pal is a pretty good transfer at the 4, and Saunders is incredibly talented at the 4 as well (both get 20+ minutes a a game this year) I like Shay, but he's the backup 5 to Ledee. I don't see them playing together. I'm optimistic on Pal but have heard he's still adjusting, and Saunders is going to be terrific but still unproven. Parrish played a lot last year and I believe you get your best 5 on the floor, regardless of position. The small ball lineup is our 5 best overall players, and most experienced in our system. So yes, I expect to see a lot of it. Doesn't mean they'll all play 30+. Dutch uses a lot of combos. It may just be the one used most.
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Post by rockshow on Aug 29, 2023 8:54:32 GMT -8
We currently have one scholarship available right now, correct? I know Dutch typically likes to keep one in his back pocket for the possibility of midseason transfers. Magoon Gwath got the 12th.
I wonder if we'll leave one free and if there's no takers for it by spring session, we'll give it to Alger.
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 29, 2023 12:21:14 GMT -8
You must be pessimistic on DeMarshay's ability to get minutes if you see us playing a lot of small ball lineups. Because Pal is a pretty good transfer at the 4, and Saunders is incredibly talented at the 4 as well (both get 20+ minutes a a game this year) I like Shay, but he's the backup 5 to Ledee. I don't see them playing together. I'm optimistic on Pal but have heard he's still adjusting, and Saunders is going to be terrific but still unproven. Parrish played a lot last year and I believe you get your best 5 on the floor, regardless of position. The small ball lineup is our 5 best overall players, and most experienced in our system. So yes, I expect to see a lot of it. Doesn't mean they'll all play 30+. Dutch uses a lot of combos. It may just be the one used most. Yeah I don't see Shay and Ledee playing together either. But I don't see Saunders playing less then 20 (I would also argue he is one of our best 5 players). Pal, not sure. Maybe if Pal is still adjusting he only gets 10 minutes? But those minutes would come at the 4, not the 5 - right? Leaving only 5-10 minutes at the 4 that would be open for Parrish (at most). That's why I was asking about Shay. My point being that unless Saunders is getting minutes at the 5, or unless Pal or Shay aren't getting any minutes, Parrish will get minutes at the 3, not the 4. Hypothetical A: C:LeDee 25 Shay 15 PF: Saunders 25 Pal 15 In this example Parrish would play exclusively at the 3 position. Hypothetical B: C: LeDee 25 Shay 10 Saunders 5 PF: Saunders 20 Pal 10 Parrish 10 In this example Parrish would get 10 minutes at the 4 in a small ball lineup. Even in hypothetical B however, the small ball lineup isn't our most common lineup. Hypothetical C: C: LeDee 25 Saunders 15 PF: Saunders 10, Pal 10, Parrish 20 In this example where Shay isn't getting any minutes, Parrish would get a lot of minutes at the 4. This is a situation where we would play a lot of small ball. But it depends on Shay not getting any minutes, and Pal only getting 10 (or vice versa), which is why I made the comment about Shay...
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 29, 2023 14:16:53 GMT -8
I like Shay, but he's the backup 5 to Ledee. I don't see them playing together. I'm optimistic on Pal but have heard he's still adjusting, and Saunders is going to be terrific but still unproven. Parrish played a lot last year and I believe you get your best 5 on the floor, regardless of position. The small ball lineup is our 5 best overall players, and most experienced in our system. So yes, I expect to see a lot of it. Doesn't mean they'll all play 30+. Dutch uses a lot of combos. It may just be the one used most. Yeah I don't see Shay and Ledee playing together either. But I don't see Saunders playing less then 20 (I would also argue he is one of our best 5 players). Pal, not sure. Maybe if Pal is still adjusting he only gets 10 minutes? But those minutes would come at the 4, not the 5 - right? Leaving only 5-10 minutes at the 4 that would be open for Parrish (at most). That's why I was asking about Shay. My point being that unless Saunders is getting minutes at the 5, or unless Pal or Shay aren't getting any minutes, Parrish will get minutes at the 3, not the 4. Hypothetical A: C:LeDee 25 Shay 15 PF: Saunders 25 Pal 15 In this example Parrish would play exclusively at the 3 position. Hypothetical B: C: LeDee 25 Shay 10 Saunders 5 PF: Saunders 20 Pal 10 Parrish 10 In this example Parrish would get 10 minutes at the 4 in a small ball lineup. Even in hypothetical B however, the small ball lineup isn't our most common lineup. Hypothetical C: C: LeDee 25 Saunders 15 PF: Saunders 10, Pal 10, Parrish 20 In this example where Shay isn't getting any minutes, Parrish would get a lot of minutes at the 4. This is a situation where we would play a lot of small ball. But it depends on Shay not getting any minutes, and Pal only getting 10 (or vice versa), which is why I made the comment about Shay... I think Trammell, Butler & Waters lead the team in minutes, so Scenario A won't happen. Parrish will play some 3, maybe 10, but wont be limited to that. I definitely don't see a scenario where Shay doesn't play. While I do expect Saunders to play, I don't think he plays more than Parrish. I could see the following: 5: Ledee (25), Shay (10-15) & Pal/Saunders (0-5) 4: Parrish (15, w/ 10 at the 3), w/ Saunders/Pal splitting 25 I do think Saunders will get some time at the 3 as well. Bottom line, it's a deep & flexible team. Trammell, Butler, Waters, Ledee, & Parrish IMO lead the team in minutes and take up 140-ish minutes, with Saunders, Byrd, Pal & Shay all being key rotation guys who somehow split the other 60. And that assumes Davis doesn't take time from someone. Should be fun! Can't wait to see a few practices. Right now I have my doubts on Pal playing big minutes based on what a friend said of what he saw, but I haven't seen him myself. Haven't seen Shay yet either, but heard he's our best inside defensive presence & we know how the staff values D. I reserve the right to tweak it all in about 4-5 weeks! ; )
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Post by fisherville on Aug 29, 2023 14:34:52 GMT -8
Team is not near as deep as last year. Gwath might redshirt cause of his injury, then we’d be down to 11 scholly guys and Heide clearly isn’t ready physically. I do agree it is a versatile team however
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Post by rockshow on Aug 29, 2023 14:43:13 GMT -8
We are 8 1/2 deep. Pretty standard for a Fish/Dutch team. Last season was an anomaly due to guys taking their super senior covid seasons. Bradley, Arop, Mensah and Seiko all would have graduated in a non covid world.
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