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Post by wakelaunch on Jul 13, 2023 10:24:15 GMT -8
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 13, 2023 11:18:21 GMT -8
haha. They should shut down all government services to Lake County, and get rid of all regulations and zoning laws. Put a pig farm right next to this guy's house....he will be crying to government the next day!
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 13, 2023 13:19:09 GMT -8
Yep, his use of hyperbole is something quite frightening. No one but Mussolini has ever done that before. And his Libertarian leanings, like advocating for the reduction of power of our Government, are clearly the next steps to concentration camps. Serious question regarding "acceptable" speech (or unacceptable speech as it were), however, what does that mean in the our world of 1st Amendment protections (currently anyhow) other than advocating that no one vote for the guy (your 1st Amendment right by the way)? Should he face any legal or civil consequences in your opinion? If so, do you know how many College Professors or political pundits (have you ever heard of James Carville?), for example, would be guilty of similar violations? Perhaps the guy was legitimately upset by the actions of our FBI as witnessed over the last few years? This came up on the radar today as the discussion of FBI Oversight was featured yesterday. nypost.com/2022/12/19/doj-wanted-gop-house-intel-staffers-data-at-height-of-russia-probe-report/FBI was going after the ones going after them, it seems. No road to Fascism there apparently? Just prudent National Security. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 13, 2023 20:33:07 GMT -8
Yep, his use of hyperbole is something quite frightening. No one but Mussolini has ever done that before. And his Libertarian leanings, like advocating for the reduction of power of our Government, are clearly the next steps to concentration camps. Serious question regarding "acceptable" speech (or unacceptable speech as it were), however, what does that mean in the our world of 1st Amendment protections (currently anyhow) other than advocating that no one vote for the guy (your 1st Amendment right by the way)? Should he face any legal or civil consequences in your opinion? If so, do you know how many College Professors or political pundits (have you ever heard of James Carville?), for example, would be guilty of similar violations? Perhaps the guy was legitimately upset by the actions of our FBI as witnessed over the last few years? This came up on the radar today as the discussion of FBI Oversight was featured yesterday. nypost.com/2022/12/19/doj-wanted-gop-house-intel-staffers-data-at-height-of-russia-probe-report/FBI was going after the ones going after them, it seems. No road to Fascism there apparently? Just prudent National Security. move to Russia....they have good zoning regs and education system.....or Barstow. |
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Post by wakelaunch on Jul 16, 2023 16:55:14 GMT -8
Yep, his use of hyperbole is something quite frightening. No one but Mussolini has ever done that before. And his Libertarian leanings, like advocating for the reduction of power of our Government, are clearly the next steps to concentration camps. Serious question regarding "acceptable" speech (or unacceptable speech as it were), however, what does that mean in the our world of 1st Amendment protections (currently anyhow) other than advocating that no one vote for the guy (your 1st Amendment right by the way)? Should he face any legal or civil consequences in your opinion? If so, do you know how many College Professors or political pundits (have you ever heard of James Carville?), for example, would be guilty of similar violations? Perhaps the guy was legitimately upset by the actions of our FBI as witnessed over the last few years? This came up on the radar today as the discussion of FBI Oversight was featured yesterday. nypost.com/2022/12/19/doj-wanted-gop-house-intel-staffers-data-at-height-of-russia-probe-report/FBI was going after the ones going after them, it seems. No road to Fascism there apparently? Just prudent National Security. More Fascist Speech at a major republican convention |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 16, 2023 19:21:24 GMT -8
Yep, his use of hyperbole is something quite frightening. No one but Mussolini has ever done that before. And his Libertarian leanings, like advocating for the reduction of power of our Government, are clearly the next steps to concentration camps. Serious question regarding "acceptable" speech (or unacceptable speech as it were), however, what does that mean in the our world of 1st Amendment protections (currently anyhow) other than advocating that no one vote for the guy (your 1st Amendment right by the way)? Should he face any legal or civil consequences in your opinion? If so, do you know how many College Professors or political pundits (have you ever heard of James Carville?), for example, would be guilty of similar violations? Perhaps the guy was legitimately upset by the actions of our FBI as witnessed over the last few years? This came up on the radar today as the discussion of FBI Oversight was featured yesterday. nypost.com/2022/12/19/doj-wanted-gop-house-intel-staffers-data-at-height-of-russia-probe-report/FBI was going after the ones going after them, it seems. No road to Fascism there apparently? Just prudent National Security. More Fascist Speech at a major republican convention Just another televangelist using the magas for easy cash. Wait till they topple the "Deep State" and their social security checks don't clear anymore. They'll be cryin to bring back the deep state then. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 17, 2023 15:47:37 GMT -8
Yep, his use of hyperbole is something quite frightening. No one but Mussolini has ever done that before. And his Libertarian leanings, like advocating for the reduction of power of our Government, are clearly the next steps to concentration camps. Serious question regarding "acceptable" speech (or unacceptable speech as it were), however, what does that mean in the our world of 1st Amendment protections (currently anyhow) other than advocating that no one vote for the guy (your 1st Amendment right by the way)? Should he face any legal or civil consequences in your opinion? If so, do you know how many College Professors or political pundits (have you ever heard of James Carville?), for example, would be guilty of similar violations? Perhaps the guy was legitimately upset by the actions of our FBI as witnessed over the last few years? This came up on the radar today as the discussion of FBI Oversight was featured yesterday. nypost.com/2022/12/19/doj-wanted-gop-house-intel-staffers-data-at-height-of-russia-probe-report/FBI was going after the ones going after them, it seems. No road to Fascism there apparently? Just prudent National Security. More Fascist Speech at a major republican convention Michael Moore understood Bannon's take, at least in 2016, it seems. www.youtube.com/watch?v=inEs0Jayv0YAnd regarding moving...Anyone planning on moving to San Fran? The Central Valley? Downtown LA? I'm sure they have plenty of great zoning laws. For some reason, Michelle and Barak aren't either. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 17, 2023 16:14:01 GMT -8
More Fascist Speech at a major republican convention Just another televangelist using the magas for easy cash. Wait till they topple the "Deep State" and their social security checks don't clear anymore. They'll be cryin to bring back the deep state then. So, who is worse, those who support an open border policy and nearly turn a blind eye and empower the Mexican Drug Cartels to do the things that they do to children? Or those advocating against the unelected abuse of power seen in the Deep State? Link: Covering for Child Sex TraffickingLink: CNN covers for Child Sex Trafficking |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2023 16:29:15 GMT -8
Just another televangelist using the magas for easy cash. Wait till they topple the "Deep State" and their social security checks don't clear anymore. They'll be cryin to bring back the deep state then. So, who is worse, those who support an open border policy and nearly turn a blind eye and empower the Mexican Drug Cartels to do the things that they do to children? Or those advocating against the unelected abuse of power seen in the Deep State? Link: Covering for Child Sex TraffickingLink: CNN covers for Child Sex TraffickingBorder is not open. Still. Hasn't been open. Not now, not then. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 17, 2023 17:17:17 GMT -8
Just another televangelist using the magas for easy cash. Wait till they topple the "Deep State" and their social security checks don't clear anymore. They'll be cryin to bring back the deep state then. So, who is worse, those who support an open border policy and nearly turn a blind eye and empower the Mexican Drug Cartels to do the things that they do to children? Or those advocating against the unelected abuse of power seen in the Deep State? Link: Covering for Child Sex TraffickingLink: CNN covers for Child Sex Traffickingshort of sending the full force of our military across the border, your answer for the cartels is what? Seems like if we listened to Nancy back when, and just said "no" ..there wouldn't be any end users. And don't give me the "Libs", the ophiod epidemic was like a wildfire that spread through the rural red states like crazy. Our own doctors, looking to make bank, were handing it out like candy for quite a while. See, the issues are much more complex than you are ever willing to discuss. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 17, 2023 17:33:56 GMT -8
More Fascist Speech at a major republican convention Michael Moore understood Bannon's take, at least in 2016, it seems. www.youtube.com/watch?v=inEs0Jayv0YAnd regarding moving...Anyone planning on moving to San Fran? The Central Valley? Downtown LA? I'm sure they have plenty of great zoning laws. For some reason, Michelle and Barak aren't either. Dumb answer to a complex problem..as usual. Growing up in the Bay Area in the 60's and 70's, there were always street people and free loaders in Berkeley, SF, LA etc. At least some crazy people were placed in facilities like Camarillo, Napa etc. Those were all closed by Reagan..with some help by Democrats. There have been Republican governers of California and Presidents. Nothing has ever changed except the numbers and problem has exponentially increased. I blame "critical mass" of people and infrastructure. Maybe you can name one culture / society in history that has avoided a decline? However, it is certainly easier, and requires no critical thinking, to blame the boogie man. There is actually enough money to start to attack the problem in a logical and effective way. However, when the powers in charge cannot even agree on what day it is ...nothing gets done. ... and thus we are (hope I'm wrong) most likely done. |
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Post by wakelaunch on Jul 17, 2023 20:53:09 GMT -8
Michael Moore understood Bannon's take, at least in 2016, it seems. www.youtube.com/watch?v=inEs0Jayv0YAnd regarding moving...Anyone planning on moving to San Fran? The Central Valley? Downtown LA? I'm sure they have plenty of great zoning laws. For some reason, Michelle and Barak aren't either. Dumb answer to a complex problem..as usual. Growing up in the Bay Area in the 60's and 70's, there were always street people and free loaders in Berkeley, SF, LA etc. At least some crazy people were placed in facilities like Camarillo, Napa etc. Those were all closed by Reagan..with some help by Democrats. There have been Republican governers of California and Presidents. Nothing has ever changed except the numbers and problem has exponentially increased. I blame "critical mass" of people and infrastructure. Maybe you can name one culture / society in history that has avoided a decline? However, it is certainly easier, and requires no critical thinking, to blame the boogie man. There is actually enough money to start to attack the problem in a logical and effective way. However, when the powers in charge cannot even agree on what day it is ...nothing gets done. ... and thus we are (hope I'm wrong) most likely done. My dude spot on. Cheers to being an Aztec and a critical thinker. Bring back federally paid for modern day insane asylums. Ban living on the streets. Build transition housing in run down struggling cities. People can't live on the sidewalks. Build more affordable RV parks around cities and set zoning laws for RVs on streets. If you want to live in your car that's ok but just can't look like you do aka your possessions can't live outside of your car. Build more low cost/free storage lockers throughout cities so poor can keep their stuff safe. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 18, 2023 4:01:24 GMT -8
Dumb answer to a complex problem..as usual. Growing up in the Bay Area in the 60's and 70's, there were always street people and free loaders in Berkeley, SF, LA etc. At least some crazy people were placed in facilities like Camarillo, Napa etc. Those were all closed by Reagan..with some help by Democrats. There have been Republican governers of California and Presidents. Nothing has ever changed except the numbers and problem has exponentially increased. I blame "critical mass" of people and infrastructure. Maybe you can name one culture / society in history that has avoided a decline? However, it is certainly easier, and requires no critical thinking, to blame the boogie man. There is actually enough money to start to attack the problem in a logical and effective way. However, when the powers in charge cannot even agree on what day it is ...nothing gets done. ... and thus we are (hope I'm wrong) most likely done. My dude spot on. Cheers to being an Aztec and a critical thinker. Bring back federally paid for modern day insane asylums. Ban living on the streets. Build transition housing in run down struggling cities. People can't live on the sidewalks. Build more affordable RV parks around cities and set zoning laws for RVs on streets. If you want to live in your car that's ok but just can't look like you do aka your possessions can't live outside of your car. Build more low cost/free storage lockers throughout cities so poor can keep their stuff safe. Exactly! Problem is "liberals" don't want to be mean...and "conservatives" don't like their money going to "those people"! What "conservatives" don't get is that it's coming to a neighborhood near them. |
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Post by wakelaunch on Jul 18, 2023 10:02:53 GMT -8
My dude spot on. Cheers to being an Aztec and a critical thinker. Bring back federally paid for modern day insane asylums. Ban living on the streets. Build transition housing in run down struggling cities. People can't live on the sidewalks. Build more affordable RV parks around cities and set zoning laws for RVs on streets. If you want to live in your car that's ok but just can't look like you do aka your possessions can't live outside of your car. Build more low cost/free storage lockers throughout cities so poor can keep their stuff safe. Exactly! Problem is "liberals" don't want to be mean...and "conservatives" don't like their money going to "those people"! What "conservatives" don't get is that it's coming to a neighborhood near them. Everyone wins property/society wise when the streets are clean. Less crime. Property values are higher. Crazy people are "managed" Homeless are "homed" If you have reached the point where you are living literally on the street, then the gov should be able to step in and have some control of you till you prove you can manage yourself. Living in "car" or RV is different because you are still proving you can somewhat provide for yourself. We can be humane, use different resources of different types of housing for different types of people. You shouldn't get to pick where you live if you end up at the point where you are literally living on the street. For example, housing large populations of homeless in Los Angeles, San Francisco doesn't make sense by the government due to cost of living. But the government providing homeless housing in Detroit, Albuquerque or some other struggling city where land costs, old buildings are much cheaper to manage. Also the government can provide decent jobs for the those cities in the people who "manage" the homeless. I see a problem and try to fix it. I don't look at things so much as "conservative" or "liberal" Strip down old vacant retail strip malls, malls, and create housing. We need to build more "affordable housing solutions" |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 18, 2023 10:43:55 GMT -8
Hate speech is covered under the First Amendment. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 22, 2023 6:02:30 GMT -8
Border is not open. Still. Hasn't been open. Not now, not then. A "Border Crisis". A "Broken Border". 500,000+ Got Aways per year. Millions of unvetted immigrants cross annually. Lethal Fentanyl flows unabated over the border. 100,000 deaths from opioid overdoses with Fentanyl at its core. 85,000 children lost within the system. Rape Trees left behind mocking civil society. Mexican Drug Cartels make hundreds of millions annualy off human trafficking. Mexican Drug Cartels rule in the Border regions. But..but..it's not an "Open Border". Whatever you say Gilligan. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 22, 2023 7:36:40 GMT -8
Border is not open. Still. Hasn't been open. Not now, not then. A "Border Crisis". A "Broken Border". 500,000+ Got Aways per year. Millions of unvetted immigrants cross annually. Lethal Fentanyl flows unabated over the border. 100,000 deaths from opioid overdoses with Fentanyl at its core. 85,000 children lost within the system. Rape Trees left behind mocking civil society. Mexican Drug Cartels make hundreds of millions annualy off human trafficking. Mexican Drug Cartels rule in the Border regions. But..but..it's not an "Open Border". Whatever you say Gilligan. Where was your concern about this in 2019? |
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