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Post by Fishn'Aztec on May 11, 2023 18:42:54 GMT -8
All I'm saying is that she would correct him MANY times on things he stated. She wasn't letting him slide much, and some proof of that is the "nasty person" comment she got from him. She got under his skin. All he did was lie, so fact-checking him in real time serves no fundamental purpose with an audience there. An audience of hand picked MAGATS! |
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Post by johneaztec on May 11, 2023 18:45:50 GMT -8
All I'm saying is that she would correct him MANY times on things he stated. She wasn't letting him slide much, and some proof of that is the "nasty person" comment she got from him. She got under his skin. All he did was lie, so fact-checking him in real time serves no fundamental purpose with an audience there. Sure, but it would have been worse if she just stood there mum. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 11, 2023 18:49:56 GMT -8
Trump's best (only?) quality is how to masterfully manipulate an already manipulated audience further. He's not a great public speaker, he's not a masterful leader, he's not a unifying force. As a malignant narcissist, his power is reliant on that narcissism pulling through and diverting enough attention away from the fact that he simply can't tell the truth about pretty much anything.
There are still many people who believe in the witch hunt theory. There are still many people who believe Trump, under the Presidential Records Act, has the ability to declassify anything, even in his own head. There's actual people who believe there's a grand conspiracy from the "Deep State" to take him out of his position by any means necessary.
But that doesn't change basic fundamental facts that the Republicans can't build a candidate with ANY credibility or believability beyond him. He turns 77 shortly, and if by some miracle he manages to win the presidency, he's a one-term president again. I don't even want to speculate what happens after that.
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Post by aztecryan on May 11, 2023 18:51:07 GMT -8
All he did was lie, so fact-checking him in real time serves no fundamental purpose with an audience there. Sure, but it would have been worse if she just stood there mum. Both outcomes are largely the same. The in-house audience likely paid very little attention to her rebuttals and the TV audience probably even worse. There's no positive outcome for anyone other than CNN, who got "exactly what they wanted" per their new boss. This is of course on top of the fact that the man was found liable for sexual assault literally 24 hours prior and there was no need to even have this event in the first place, but I digress. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 11, 2023 19:21:48 GMT -8
Sure, but it would have been worse if she just stood there mum. Both outcomes are largely the same. The in-house audience likely paid very little attention to her rebuttals and the TV audience probably even worse. There's no positive outcome for anyone other than CNN, who got "exactly what they wanted" per their new boss. This is of course on top of the fact that the man was found liable for sexual assault literally 24 hours prior and there was no need to even have this event in the first place, but I digress. Well, I don't agree. If she just simply let him get away with everything he said and just nodded. It would have been an even bigger disaster. She absolutely had to make the attempts at rebuttals. Anyway, Trump is being Trump, and many can see right through the lies. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 11, 2023 19:37:53 GMT -8
Both outcomes are largely the same. The in-house audience likely paid very little attention to her rebuttals and the TV audience probably even worse. There's no positive outcome for anyone other than CNN, who got "exactly what they wanted" per their new boss. This is of course on top of the fact that the man was found liable for sexual assault literally 24 hours prior and there was no need to even have this event in the first place, but I digress. Well, I don't agree. If she just simply let him get away with everything he said and just nodded. It would have been an even bigger disaster. She absolutely had to make the attempts at rebuttals. Anyway, Trump is being Trump, and many can see right through the lies. You completely missed the larger point and the indifference normalizes the behavior. And "many can see right through the lies" is how we ended up with dead Capitol Police officers and an armed insurrection. The line "dancing around a demagogue" is defeaning. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on May 11, 2023 19:41:12 GMT -8
Unfortunately John, no one is holding his feet to the fire and discrediting the lying sack of shite!
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Post by aztecmusician on May 11, 2023 21:56:07 GMT -8
Unfortunately John, no one is holding his feet to the fire and discrediting the lying sack of shite! Are you sane??? Trump is easily the most investigated and attacked President EVER! The press and his political rivals have tried everything from a phony Russian collusion story to wild tales about prostitution to impeaching him twice! His house was raided by the FBI! No president has ever gotten that kind of treatment/persecution from his political rivals. Seriously, Al Capone was a lighter touch than most of these Democrat operatives. If this were Ancient Rome, Trump would already be digesting in some lion’s belly along with some poor martyr Christians. There is little doubt in my mind Nero and Caligula would be Democrats. |
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Post by aztecmusician on May 11, 2023 21:58:17 GMT -8
Ask yourselves this question Democrats:
Would President Biden ever appear on Fox or Newsmax?
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Post by aztecryan on May 11, 2023 22:33:07 GMT -8
Unfortunately John, no one is holding his feet to the fire and discrediting the lying sack of shite! Are you sane??? Trump is easily the most investigated and attacked President EVER! The press and his political rivals have tried everything from a phony Russian collusion story to wild tales about prostitution to impeaching him twice! His house was raided by the FBI! No president has ever gotten that kind of treatment/persecution from his political rivals. Seriously, Al Capone was a lighter touch than most of these Democrat operatives. If this were Ancient Rome, Trump would already be digesting in some lion’s belly along with some poor martyr Christians. There is little doubt in my mind Nero and Caligula would be Democrats. Youre asking us if we're sane? You've pledged unequivocal support to an alleged rapist and a person who a jury found liable for sexual assault. A misogynistic, narcissistic, fraudulent con artist who has been complicit in unlawful activity for 40+ years. He's 77 years old. What in the absolute hell is it with this guy? He's also the most *corrupt* president ever. He's been accused of more than 50 crimes. Fifty. Five. Zero. But it's all in our heads, right? It's the Democratic operatives, the Deep State, Fauci, Biden, Bragg, Willis, Garland...everyone else but Trump himself. No accountability, no self-respect. Can we stop saying Russian collusion was a hoax? It was not. Can we stop saying the FBI raided his residence? It was an execution of a search warrant that was lawfully undertaken. You sound like you're in a Fox News production meeting. It's the same garbage repeated over and over and over again. He's. A. Criminal. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and acts like a duck, sometimes it's just a duck. This hasn't happened before because we've never had a president literally make a mockery out of law and order to the nth degree before. You're using 2016 information in 2023 and acting like you're talking gospel. Serious question: Why Donald Trump? |
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Post by aztecryan on May 11, 2023 22:33:33 GMT -8
Ask yourselves this question Democrats: Would President Biden ever appear on Fox or Newsmax? How is this relevant? |
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Post by azson on May 12, 2023 9:39:43 GMT -8
If by "sharp witted as ever" you mean continuing to falsely insist that the election was rigged, praising 1/6 rioters, and mocking the woman he is guilty of sexually abusing/defaming, then yes, well done. I’m just contrasting Trump to the hologram in chief, whose handlers obviously aren’t confident Biden can handle a live interview. If he could, he would be on the Dem controlled media 24/7. Even the liberal press is kind of pissed off with the lack of presidential access. Trump seems as feisty, snarky and confident as ever. “If I were president the war in Ukraine would have ended in a day.” Of course your opinion of Trump will be negative, you are blinded by partisanship and incapable of admitting that electing a mentally fading 80 year old was a colossal #%&k up. Partisanship has nothing to do with it. I clocked him as a racist scumbag when I was in college during the Central Park 5, and he's done nothing since to show me he's not a dumpster fire of a human being. I'm no fan of Biden, nor a Dem, but I voted for him because I did not want 4 more years of demagoguery. You apparently continue to be good with it though, which tells me you're actually the one guilty of blind partisanship, or you're trolling, or most likely both. |
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Post by aztecmusician on May 12, 2023 10:30:06 GMT -8
Ask yourselves this question Democrats: Would President Biden ever appear on Fox or Newsmax? How is this relevant? Look at the thread title, hopefully you can make the connection. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 12, 2023 10:45:36 GMT -8
Look at the thread title, hopefully you can make the connection. You realize CNN isn't a liberal network anymore, right? They struck a deal a couple of weeks ago to have Trump surrogates appear on the network as part of this arrangement with the town hall. You seem once again to be behind on current events. And no, Joe Biden would not go on Fox (who was sued into the ground for supporting claims Biden didn't win the election) or Newsmax. |
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Post by aztecnails on May 12, 2023 12:10:45 GMT -8
No more U.S. money for Ukraine. A good reporter will let a person being asked a question answer without interruptions on the Ukraine question. This reporter did not do that and was called out. An election can be rigged by what the media reports and what they don't report. Even biden voters admitted they would not have voted for him if that lab top news, broke by the New York Post, was reported honestly. In swing states, election observers got wrongly kicked out of vote counting areas. In Detroit, the vote counting windows were covered up. In Atlanta was the water main break hoax. I do not watch Fox anymore.
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Post by aztecmusician on May 12, 2023 12:16:13 GMT -8
Look at the thread title, hopefully you can make the connection. You realize CNN isn't a liberal network anymore, right? They struck a deal a couple of weeks ago to have Trump surrogates appear on the network as part of this arrangement with the town hall. You seem once again to be behind on current events. And no, Joe Biden would not go on Fox (who was sued into the ground for supporting claims Biden didn't win the election) or Newsmax. Joe Biden couldn’t go on Newsmax or Fox and there is a reason the President’s handlers won’t let him. He would get confused and soil his depends. CNN still has a liberal slant. Jim Acosta, David Axelrod, Anderson Cooper, Audie Cornish, Van Jones….that’s an all star team of liberal media misinformation. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 12, 2023 12:17:57 GMT -8
No more U.S. money for Ukraine. A good reporter will let a person being asked a question answer without interruptions on the Ukraine question. This reporter did not do that and was called out. An election can be rigged by what the media reports and what they don't report. Even biden voters admitted they would not have voted for him if that lab top news, broke by the New York Post, was reported honestly. In swing states, election observers got wrongly kicked out of vote counting areas. In Detroit, the vote counting windows were covered up. In Atlanta was the water main break hoax. I do not watch Fox anymore. And yet here you are dishing out more conspiracy theories that have been debunked years ago. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 12, 2023 12:19:47 GMT -8
You realize CNN isn't a liberal network anymore, right? They struck a deal a couple of weeks ago to have Trump surrogates appear on the network as part of this arrangement with the town hall. You seem once again to be behind on current events. And no, Joe Biden would not go on Fox (who was sued into the ground for supporting claims Biden didn't win the election) or Newsmax. Joe Biden couldn’t go on Newsmax or Fox and there is a reason the President’s handlers won’t let him. He would get confused and soil his depends. CNN still has a liberal slant. Jim Acosta, David Axelrod, Anderson Cooper, Audie Cornish, Van Jones….that’s an all star team of liberal media misinformation. The reason is because those outlets aren't news, they are entertainment propaganda. You can't combat a single point, so you resort to this. Why Donald Trump? |
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Post by aztecmusician on May 12, 2023 14:12:30 GMT -8
Joe Biden couldn’t go on Newsmax or Fox and there is a reason the President’s handlers won’t let him. He would get confused and soil his depends. CNN still has a liberal slant. Jim Acosta, David Axelrod, Anderson Cooper, Audie Cornish, Van Jones….that’s an all star team of liberal media misinformation. The reason is because those outlets aren't news, they are entertainment propaganda. You can't combat a single point, so you resort to this. Why Donald Trump? I just did. You said CNN isn’t liberal any more and I gave you a pretty straightforward answer. Yes, they still quack like a duck and employ dozens of ducks, therefore they are still ducks. Answer my question: Could President Biden go on Fox or Newsmax and stand up to an adversarial prosecutorial grilling the way Trump just did? Answer the question, (it’s in the topic) please. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 12, 2023 14:20:26 GMT -8
The reason is because those outlets aren't news, they are entertainment propaganda. You can't combat a single point, so you resort to this. Why Donald Trump? I just did. You said CNN isn’t liberal any more and I gave you a pretty straightforward answer. Yes, they still quack like a duck and employ dozens of ducks, therefore they are still ducks. Answer my question: Could President Biden go on Fox or Newsmax and stand up to an adversarial prosecutorial grilling the way Trump just did? Answer the question, (it’s in the topic) please. CNN is not liberal anymore. Just because they have talking heads/guests who aren't completely detached from reality doesn't distract from the point: Chris Licht is morphing them into a more conservative-based network. Look at everything that Licht said pre and post-town hall. Anderson Cooper blamed 'information silos" and not his boss, coincidentally. I already answered your question: Fox and Newsmax aren't news outlets, they are entertainment propaganda. You really think Biden is going to appear on a network that was sued for lying about election fraud and claims his victory was illegitimate? Use some brain cells. Can you address any of the points about Trump lying in the town hall? The documents, January 6th, NARA, the PRA....or are you just going to take his word for it? |
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