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Post by 🥸 Hopeless Aztec on Apr 13, 2023 9:05:00 GMT -8
This is what I psoted right after Houston. I sat with one of the coaches and he mentioned the coaches did not want to lose KJ, but people were coming to him with NIL opportunities. Like I briefly mentioned, KJ has people in his ear telling him this is a great way to get money and help out your family. Folks, KJ isn't exactly rich, and I am sure he would love to help his family anyway if possible.
Anyone who thinks this isn't somewhat about NIL money isn't paying attention. I am sorry but I heard it directly from the coach. As far as him having an issue with one of the coaches, I don't know, but the coach that I sat with said they really wanted him back. He just didn't think it was possible because of the NIL deals being discussed.
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 13, 2023 9:09:51 GMT -8
FWIW, Evan Miya (who I'd rank as one of the best statisticians & best transfer portal site) ranks Keshad as a 4* transfer & the 72nd best transfer overall ahead of RDW, Bairstow, Baker, etc., and the 9th best available SF.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 13, 2023 9:14:11 GMT -8
This is what I psoted right after Houston. I sat with one of the coaches and he mentioned the coaches did not want to lose KJ, but people were coming to him with NIL opportunities. Like I briefly mentioned, KJ has people in his ear telling him this is a great way to get money and help out your family. Folks, KJ isn't exactly rich, and I am sure he would love to help his family anyway if possible. Anyone who thinks this isn't somewhat about NIL money isn't paying attention. I am sorry but I heard it directly from the coach. As far as him having an issue with one of the coaches, I don't know, but the coach that I sat with said they really wanted him back. He just didn't think it was possible because of the NIL deals being discussed. Yeah, it's naive to think a good percentage of his decision isn't about NIL, and to help his family. Gotta do, whatcha gotta do, as they say.
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 13, 2023 9:15:26 GMT -8
It isn't necessarily about the NBA. It's about preparing his game for the next level, which means playing more around the perimeter. He doesn't need to "star" - he just needs minutes & opportunities that'll help prepare him for the next level. If he gets 30 minutes with 2+ attempts from deep a game & more chances to create on his own that's a win, even if he goes 45%/30%/65%. A "win" is the opportunity to play the position he needs to. It's not about being a superstar who gets drafted at this point. If that happens, that'll just show how hard he's worked. I would say he's a lock to make $ Overseas, for sure. I'm sure his dream is to play in the NBA and if he can showcase his improvement next year on the offensive end, he may get drafted. Although, I question how much it helps him going off in a weak Conference, and weaker competition, if that becomes the case. Guys get drafted out of the WCC & lesser conferences all the time, but again I don't think that's the focus. It's just PT & opportunity.
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Post by lemkotir on Apr 13, 2023 9:23:04 GMT -8
This is what I psoted right after Houston. I sat with one of the coaches and he mentioned the coaches did not want to lose KJ, but people were coming to him with NIL opportunities. Like I briefly mentioned, KJ has people in his ear telling him this is a great way to get money and help out your family. Folks, KJ isn't exactly rich, and I am sure he would love to help his family anyway if possible.Anyone who thinks this isn't somewhat about NIL money isn't paying attention. I am sorry but I heard it directly from the coach. As far as him having an issue with one of the coaches, I don't know, but the coach that I sat with said they really wanted him back. He just didn't think it was possible because of the NIL deals being discussed. If I am not mistaken, KJ came from a bad part of Oakland growing up, which tells me he/his family isn't swimming in money. So if he is going elsewhere to help his family next year with NIL money and 2+ years now somewhere in the pros, then as SDSU fans, need to give him 1000% support.
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Post by hoobs on Apr 13, 2023 9:24:08 GMT -8
FWIW, Evan Miya (who I'd rank as one of the best statisticians & best transfer portal site) ranks Keshad as a 4* transfer & the 72nd best transfer overall ahead of RDW, Bairstow, Baker, etc., and the 9th best available SF. KJ's departure makes me think about a guy like Harrison Ingram as someone who could play a "4" type role next season (in the same way KJ did) and then move over to SF the following season, with Saunders moving up to start at the 4 (RDW then moving from the 3 to the 2).
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Apr 13, 2023 9:24:31 GMT -8
This is what I psoted right after Houston. I sat with one of the coaches and he mentioned the coaches did not want to lose KJ, but people were coming to him with NIL opportunities. Like I briefly mentioned, KJ has people in his ear telling him this is a great way to get money and help out your family. Folks, KJ isn't exactly rich, and I am sure he would love to help his family anyway if possible. Anyone who thinks this isn't somewhat about NIL money isn't paying attention. I am sorry but I heard it directly from the coach. As far as him having an issue with one of the coaches, I don't know, but the coach that I sat with said they really wanted him back. He just didn't think it was possible because of the NIL deals being discussed. Yeah, it's naive to think a good percentage of his decision isn't about NIL, and to help his family. Gotta do, whatcha gotta do, as they say. During one of the tourney pressers Key, Matt, and Darion were all asked about their thoughts on the impact on NIL, and from their answers it was obvious to those paying attention that someone was dangling NIL carrots in front of him. I am happy for him, but really despise the impact the Texas-sized NIL loophole is going to have on collegiate athletics as a whole. Our pending move to a P5 conference will allow us to play the game, so to speak - at least for MBB - but F* the game. The NCAA needs to reel this ish back in ASAP and put some caps on what student athletes can earn in NIL fees.
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Post by lemkotir on Apr 13, 2023 9:27:56 GMT -8
Think about the positives of KJ's move:
KJ, an Aztec4Life, gets to make money (if he gets NIL) and help position himself with more PT and opportunities Underclassman will have more PT time within SDSU; lessen the chance one of them will transfer out Transfers in the portal we're trying to obtain now sees 15-20 minutes opened up
I see all good stuff here.
This is like dating in general and in 21st century. KJ and SDSU have ran its course. Also, when the match is no longer fit, then mutually separate and go your own way; why force things and make everyone miserable.
No hard feelings here.
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Post by lemkotir on Apr 13, 2023 9:31:20 GMT -8
Yeah, it's naive to think a good percentage of his decision isn't about NIL, and to help his family. Gotta do, whatcha gotta do, as they say. During one of the tourney pressers Key, Matt, and Darion were all asked about their thoughts on the impact on NIL, and from their answers it was obvious to those paying attention that someone was dangling NIL carrots in front of him. I am happy for him, but really despise the impact the Texas-sized NIL loophole is going to have on collegiate athletics as a whole. Our pending move to a P5 conference will allow us to play the game, so to speak - at least for MBB - but F* the game. The NCAA needs to reel this ish back in ASAP and put some caps on what student athletes can earn in NIL fees. Like all things, learn the changing rules and play it to your advantage. Nobody ever said things are fair in anything. At work: learn to "kiss-up" to the boss man, focus on what the boss' KPIs/most important things, score keep your achievements and contributions and talk about them to leadership. As they said, working hard alone like polishing the Titanic gets you to the bottom of the ocean. The message here is: learn, adapt and change
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Post by Gundo on Apr 13, 2023 9:54:24 GMT -8
During one of the tourney pressers Key, Matt, and Darion were all asked about their thoughts on the impact on NIL, and from their answers it was obvious to those paying attention that someone was dangling NIL carrots in front of him. I am happy for him, but really despise the impact the Texas-sized NIL loophole is going to have on collegiate athletics as a whole. Our pending move to a P5 conference will allow us to play the game, so to speak - at least for MBB - but F* the game. The NCAA needs to reel this ish back in ASAP and put some caps on what student athletes can earn in NIL fees. Like all things, learn the changing rules and play it to your advantage. Nobody ever said things are fair in anything. At work: learn to "kiss-up" to the boss man, focus on what the boss' KPIs/most important things, score keep your achievements and contributions and talk about them to leadership. As they said, working hard alone like polishing the Titanic gets you to the bottom of the ocean. The message here is: learn, adapt and change With the liberal transfer rules, waivers and NIL money floating around. Learn, Adapt & Change will also need to be funded. $2,000/month isn't going to compete with $400,000 a year. We need to find a middle ground. The city, fans, boosters and most importantly business in SD need to step up (for all sports.)
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Post by aztecanthony on Apr 13, 2023 10:02:14 GMT -8
Like all things, learn the changing rules and play it to your advantage. Nobody ever said things are fair in anything. At work: learn to "kiss-up" to the boss man, focus on what the boss' KPIs/most important things, score keep your achievements and contributions and talk about them to leadership. As they said, working hard alone like polishing the Titanic gets you to the bottom of the ocean.  The message here is: learn, adapt and change With the liberal transfer rules, waivers and NIL money floating around. Learn, Adapt & Change will also need to be funded. $2,000/month isn't going to compete with $400,000 a year. We need to find a middle ground. The city, fans, boosters and most importantly business in SD need to step up (for all sports.) Keshad got beat on defense numerous times in critical situations, back door dunk against FAU, reverse layup against FAU which would have lost the Aztecs the game if not for the last minute historic shot by Butler, he’s replaceable and then some. Glad we’re not talking about Trammel, Butler, or others. I wish Keshad the best.
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Post by lemkotir on Apr 13, 2023 10:09:05 GMT -8
With the liberal transfer rules, waivers and NIL money floating around. Learn, Adapt & Change will also need to be funded. $2,000/month isn't going to compete with $400,000 a year. We need to find a middle ground. The city, fans, boosters and most importantly business in SD need to step up (for all sports.) Keshad got beat on defense numerous times in critical situations, back door dunk against FAU, reverse layup against FAU which would have lost the Aztecs the game if not for the last minute historic shot by Butler, he’s replaceable and then some. Glad we’re not talking about Trammel, Butler, or others. I wish Keshad the best. Yep. That P5 (PAC-12 or BIG12) media money of $20m to 30m per year cannot come soon enough, vs. the puny $4m per year in the MWC. Dutch and the staff will demand more moola soon too...and we have to keep investing in the program, like a biz, or just go into irrelevancy. Luckily, the current SDSU leadership supports athletics fully, based on what we have seen! It's an arms race. No doubt. Look at what the Padres have done in recent years with their leadership, spend to excite fans, win win win!!
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Post by lemkotir on Apr 13, 2023 10:18:09 GMT -8
In my mind, we have operated on a shoestring budget and achieved great success compared to remaining G5 schools out there.
Now with the Snapdragon Stadium and P5 media money incoming (hopefully soon), probably 5x more, vs before playing at SDCCU and in the MWC, I think we will be okay.
Of course, our spending will need to go up as a soon to be P5 school.
Think about what you could do with 5x more money per month to attain whatever you're after!
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 13, 2023 10:35:13 GMT -8
This is what I psoted right after Houston. I sat with one of the coaches and he mentioned the coaches did not want to lose KJ, but people were coming to him with NIL opportunities. Like I briefly mentioned, KJ has people in his ear telling him this is a great way to get money and help out your family. Folks, KJ isn't exactly rich, and I am sure he would love to help his family anyway if possible. Anyone who thinks this isn't somewhat about NIL money isn't paying attention. I am sorry but I heard it directly from the coach. As far as him having an issue with one of the coaches, I don't know, but the coach that I sat with said they really wanted him back. He just didn't think it was possible because of the NIL deals being discussed. Of course they wanted him back. He's a terrific player, leader & teammate. He didn't have an issue with a coach, it was with his PT.
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Post by lemkotir on Apr 13, 2023 10:35:28 GMT -8
I said this before and I sincerely believe it, not because I have rose tinted glasses and drinking my own koolaid...
SDSU is a sleeping giant
If we play our cards right, and with some good luck and fortune, there should be no reason we cannot be the new Utah Utes, in 15 to 20 years.
That's the benchmark I have for the university and its revenue generating sports.
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 13, 2023 10:40:03 GMT -8
This is what I psoted right after Houston. I sat with one of the coaches and he mentioned the coaches did not want to lose KJ, but people were coming to him with NIL opportunities. Like I briefly mentioned, KJ has people in his ear telling him this is a great way to get money and help out your family. Folks, KJ isn't exactly rich, and I am sure he would love to help his family anyway if possible.Anyone who thinks this isn't somewhat about NIL money isn't paying attention. I am sorry but I heard it directly from the coach. As far as him having an issue with one of the coaches, I don't know, but the coach that I sat with said they really wanted him back. He just didn't think it was possible because of the NIL deals being discussed. If I am not mistaken, KJ came from a bad part of Oakland growing up, which tells me he/his family isn't swimming in money. So if he is going elsewhere to help his family next year with NIL money and 2+ years now somewhere in the pros, then as SDSU fans, need to give him 1000% support. A large # of his family, typically 3-4+ between parents, siblings, niece, etc., were able to make most of his games with only the $2k/mo NIL deal. They're not rich, but employed. He's not feeding them. We should give him 1000% support because he gave his all to SDSU while putting his needs on the court behind the needs of his team. He was very unselfish. We should give him 1000% support in his pursuit of improving his game for the next level by putting his needs on the court further ahead.
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Post by lemkotir on Apr 13, 2023 10:44:22 GMT -8
If I am not mistaken, KJ came from a bad part of Oakland growing up, which tells me he/his family isn't swimming in money. So if he is going elsewhere to help his family next year with NIL money and 2+ years now somewhere in the pros, then as SDSU fans, need to give him 1000% support. A large # of his family, typically 3-4+ between parents, siblings, niece, etc., were able to make most of his games with only the $2k/mo NIL deal. They're not rich, but employed. He's not feeding them. We should give him 1000% support because he gave his all to SDSU while putting his needs on the court behind the needs of his team. He was very unselfish. We should give him 1000% support in his pursuit of improving his game for the next level by putting his needs on the court further ahead. If this is true, then KJ has weight and responsibilities on his shoulders, good or bad when family "expects" things, at his early 20s, like most of us that in adulthood working and earning money to put food on the table for our own families. Maybe simple as that. Hope he strikes it rich out there.
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Post by fisherville on Apr 13, 2023 10:54:30 GMT -8
Yeah, it's naive to think a good percentage of his decision isn't about NIL, and to help his family. Gotta do, whatcha gotta do, as they say. During one of the tourney pressers Key, Matt, and Darion were all asked about their thoughts on the impact on NIL, and from their answers it was obvious to those paying attention that someone was dangling NIL carrots in front of him. I am happy for him, but really despise the impact the Texas-sized NIL loophole is going to have on collegiate athletics as a whole. Our pending move to a P5 conference will allow us to play the game, so to speak - at least for MBB - but F* the game. The NCAA needs to reel this ish back in ASAP and put some caps on what student athletes can earn in NIL fees. Incredibly dumb viewpoint. These guys are working jobs and giving the school a revenue stream from both direct avenues and indirect avenues (basketball program success helps exposure and will bring on more applicants). They deserve to be paid.
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 13, 2023 11:03:34 GMT -8
A large # of his family, typically 3-4+ between parents, siblings, niece, etc., were able to make most of his games with only the $2k/mo NIL deal. They're not rich, but employed. He's not feeding them. We should give him 1000% support because he gave his all to SDSU while putting his needs on the court behind the needs of his team. He was very unselfish. We should give him 1000% support in his pursuit of improving his game for the next level by putting his needs on the court further ahead. If this is true, then KJ has weight and responsibilities on his shoulders, good or bad when family "expects" things, at his early 20s, like most of us that in adulthood working and earning money to put food on the table for our own families. Maybe simple as that. Hope he strikes it rich out there. Huh? I just commented he doesn't have the weight & responsibility of feeding his family, and that they were able to travel A LOT even with what SDSU was offering in NIL. Often bringing extra family members, rather than just mom & dad. Not sure how you drew that conclusion from what I said, given I basically said the opposite, but whatever.
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Apr 13, 2023 11:06:26 GMT -8
Personal note to KJ: Thank you for all you've done...your contributions to the most successful Aztec MBB will be remembered forever...you are an Aztec for life!!The way I see it...there are several possible landing spots (and since I don't know what is ruminating between the ears of this young man...these are just my own theories and opinions) - There is the possibility that KJ will turn pro at some level. He has his education and degree so there is no immediate need to go back to school for the academics. As a professional (at any level), he'll have access to unlimited practice time, conditioning, and coaching. He may not (or perhaps may) earn more money than he can get in NIL but that's not the main purpose of going the pro route...it'll be to develop his game on a full-time basis
- There is the possibility that KJ will transfer to a school (albeit it probably at a lesser level of competition than he saw at SDSU) that allows him more playing time at the position that he is most likely to play at the professional level, namely the SF position. This would allow him to develop his outside game play and shot on the perimeter versus the role in the paint at SDSU...he also would still be playing against college players while in development. He most likely would become the immediate senior leader on whatever team he joins. His development would be hindered by having to be a student-athlete and not a full-time professional.
- There is a possibility that KJ will transfer to a school willing to pay the highest NIL money. This would most likely be a limited role on a deep-pocket P6 school looking for organizational depth and leadership from a final-four starter. More than likely, this will mean sharing minutes with other "rent-a-players" in that system. Again, his professional development could be hindered by having to be a student-athlete, but the level of competition on whatever top-level school he joins might off-set the lack of practice time.
There may be other situations or combinations of any of the above...but choosing one of those scenarios is what he'll need to do going forward after his NBA evaluation and meeting with his professional advisors
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