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Post by rockshow on May 24, 2023 12:16:39 GMT -8
Seems like our coaches think we're gonna be pretty good. I hope so. Having back to back strong years going into the Pac 12 would certainly be helpful in terms of the long term trajectory of the program.
We talk a lot about transfers, but our 4 year guys developing and contributing has been even more important than transfers over the years. It's just easier to take them for granted because they don't provide immediate injection of contribution that a transfer usually does.
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Post by sdsuball on May 24, 2023 12:28:45 GMT -8
We're going to be good next year. Biggest question mark right now is at center: is Shay an eraser on defense even if his offense is limited? Will we get a transfer center to slot behind LeDee?
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Post by rockshow on May 24, 2023 12:41:02 GMT -8
I think we're gonna play small more. Unless a 5 comes along that wants to come here that can really contribute and not just eat up minutes as a body down low.
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Post by hoobs on May 24, 2023 12:41:24 GMT -8
I appreciate your input and insight here. But I also realize often what you say is filtered through rose-colored glasses. So it can make it tough to discern truth in what you say. In the Facebook Aztec group you said this was a superb offseason by Dutcher. That’s a stretch for even the most diehard of fans. We got the best bench player in the PAC and a pretty decent player at a low major, that’s it, while losing one of our team leaders to the portal. We couldn’t even secure a guy who started for a P5. I think with the national title run we should’ve been able to recruit someone at that level. We also struck out on a 5 numerous times. Hard to call that superb in my opinion. Your comments are fair… but… I think we are all going to be surprised… JP will be an upgrade over what KJ provided last year… when we run the 4 out offense the other team will have to guard him while they didn’t guard KJ… so… IMHO JP>KJ P12 6th man of the year and someone, who by the end of the year, that was one of U$C’s Top 3/4 players… We won’t be able to judge until JanuaryYup
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Post by fisherville on May 24, 2023 13:15:24 GMT -8
Your comments are fair… but… I think we are all going to be surprised… JP will be an upgrade over what KJ provided last year… when we run the 4 out offense the other team will have to guard him while they didn’t guard KJ… so… IMHO JP>KJ P12 6th man of the year and someone, who by the end of the year, that was one of U$C’s Top 3/4 players… We won’t be able to judge until JanuaryYup To be fair this past year we were inconsistent through january. We were 8-2 in conference but were fortunate at times (see colorado state/wyoming games)
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Post by azteccc on May 24, 2023 14:16:52 GMT -8
I appreciate your input and insight here. But I also realize often what you say is filtered through rose-colored glasses. So it can make it tough to discern truth in what you say. In the Facebook Aztec group you said this was a superb offseason by Dutcher. That’s a stretch for even the most diehard of fans. We got the best bench player in the PAC and a pretty decent player at a low major, that’s it, while losing one of our team leaders to the portal. We couldn’t even secure a guy who started for a P5. I think with the national title run we should’ve been able to recruit someone at that level. We also struck out on a 5 numerous times. Hard to call that superb in my opinion. Your comments are fair… but… I think we are all going to be surprised… JP will be an upgrade over what KJ provided last year… when we run the 4 out offense the other team will have to guard him while they didn’t guard KJ… so… IMHO JP>KJ P12 6th man of the year and someone, who by the end of the year, that was one of U$C’s Top 3/4 players… We won’t be able to judge until January Agree about January. However... JP is a career 28.4% three point shooter, 32.9% last year at Campbell. I hope for our sake he either isn't shooting the 2.5 per game that he was allowed last year, or finds a godlike shooting coach over the summer.
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Post by standiego on May 24, 2023 14:17:53 GMT -8
Would guess that the coaches still try to see if they can get some additional help from the Portal but if not then they will deal with what they have
As for talent level - evals start with some Summer Practices before the real sustained practices start in the Fall . Especially important for any newer or less experienced players so they can learn the defense
Key date now is when will Lamont make his decision - hope he is back and with the Ledee the coaches build the team as they think best around them
Defense will probably be less then last season - losing AG - Nathan - Keshad even Matt B and Seiko - major loss on offense was Matt B
but would guess that the offense could be better with an improved Lamont and Ledee - also Waters and Jay Pal with development from Micah - DT - Elijah - hopeful about BJ Davis . Also Miles , Heide - Shay - but no one really knows until they get on the court
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Post by Boise Aztec on May 24, 2023 14:33:02 GMT -8
Your comments are fair… but… I think we are all going to be surprised… JP will be an upgrade over what KJ provided last year… when we run the 4 out offense the other team will have to guard him while they didn’t guard KJ… so… IMHO JP>KJ P12 6th man of the year and someone, who by the end of the year, that was one of U$C’s Top 3/4 players… We won’t be able to judge until January Agree about January. However... JP is a career 28.4% three point shooter, 32.9% last year at Campbell. I hope for our sake he either isn't shooting the 2.5 per game that he was allowed last year, or finds a godlike shooting coach over the summer. Fair… I was assuming that the 33% he shot last year is what he would shoot next year… which is enough to make defenses honor him, unlike the 25% that KJ shot… I could be wrong…
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Post by Gundo on May 24, 2023 15:48:13 GMT -8
Your comments are fair… but… I think we are all going to be surprised… JP will be an upgrade over what KJ provided last year… when we run the 4 out offense the other team will have to guard him while they didn’t guard KJ… so… IMHO JP>KJ P12 6th man of the year and someone, who by the end of the year, that was one of U$C’s Top 3/4 players… We won’t be able to judge until January Agree about January. However... JP is a career 28.4% three-point shooter, 32.9% last year at Campbell. I hope for our sake he either isn't shooting the 2.5 per game that he was allowed last year, or finds a godlike shooting coach over the summer. 15-3 in the MWC overall, 2 ugly losses in Jan., UNM @home, Nevada @reno, an OT w/ in Ft Collins 82-76, and an 80-75 victory in Laramie, we still closed games. In Feb, 45-43 in Fresno, 63-61 in Logan, 73-71 in the Pit (Thanks to Lamont), and a 60-66 loss in Boise. The MWC Tourney had close games and the NCAAs (March Madness) did as well. The 22/23 team was like the Aztecs teams of old, coffee is for closers. I am concerned about the lack of frontcourt depth, floor leadership, and ability to make shots (aside from Butler/Trammell). I still think we need an experienced post-player. Our combined group of "5s" have 4 NCAA starts, and LeDee has all 4 in 5 years of MBB.
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Post by sdsuball on May 24, 2023 22:18:39 GMT -8
We could use another post, but need is perhaps too strong of a word. At the end of the game, being able to put out Defense lineups like LeDee/Saunders/Pal/Parrish/Butler when you have to get a stop, and substitute to Offense lineups like LeDee/Parrish/RDW/Butler/Trammell when you need a bucket is huge. So much versatility with this group. Those 7 + Byrd for some minutes + Shay for some minutes is a pretty good 9 man rotation, certainly the best 9 man rotation in the mountain west. It would be nice to have more proven players, but Saunders and Byrd are both incredibly talented and long, and Shay has been in our system for two years already so at least he won't make mistakes on defense. At best he's a shot blocker like he was in high school. If Shay doesn't have anything to bring to the table you can go small for 10 to 15 minutes a game with Saunders or Pal at the 5 - Saunders if you need a physical 5 against a physical opposing 5, whereas Pal is less physical but a better shot blocker if you need to protect the paint from drives.
FWIW Dutcher's substitutions in the Final 4 alongside Arop's block were what put our team in the position to win that game with Butler's shot. Pal can fill that exact same role for our team that Arop filled. And FWIW Saunders is pretty damn good too. So I'm not worried if we don't get another post.
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Post by Gundo on May 25, 2023 10:09:57 GMT -8
Fresno State adds a couple of players with former Nevada guard Jalen Weaver and La Tech transfer center Pierre Geneste Jr.
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Post by Gundo on May 25, 2023 10:31:12 GMT -8
Fresno State adds a couple of players with former Nevada guard Jalen Weaver and La Tech transfer center Pierre Geneste Jr. Coach Hut, once again dug deep into the transfer portal. Here's the current roster with transfers. TRANSFERSIsaiah Hill PG: Tulsa > Fresno State Isaiah Pope SF: Cal Poly > Utah Tech > Fresno State Isaiah Moore PF: CoC > Pearl City CC > ST John's > So Miss > Fresno State Donavan Yap PG: UNLV > Fresno State Xavier DuSell SG: Wyo > Fresno State Jalen Weaver SG: Nev > SLC CC> Fresno State Mykell Robinson SF: NO Texas > Ranger JuCo > Fresno State Chuck Isitua C: IUPUI > Fresno State Eduardo Andre C: Neb > Fresno State Enoch Boakye C: ASU > Fresno State Pierre Geneste C: LA Tech > Fresno State HS RECRUITSLeo Colimerio F: Fresno State Joe Hunter PG: Fresno State
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Post by standiego on May 25, 2023 10:35:38 GMT -8
Pierre was a 6'11" Freshman that played minimally for LA Tech - would say Adrame had more experience playing in the PAC - also has a 7' 5" wingspan BUT does he have any interest in SDSU or does Dutcher want to go with Shay Johnson and Heide to be guys worked into the rotation
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Post by sdcoug on May 25, 2023 12:08:48 GMT -8
Believe what you want dude. I could really care less. If you don't believe my posts don't read them, but most here who are clued in know they're accurate. As for RDW, I didn't have any conversations with anyone around that time, but I did when it came to some other recruits, and especially Dunlap. I only make statements about recruits & other things when I've actually heard it from from of the AC's. But yeah, reading the twitter tea leaves ("Dave followed his mom so they must have interest") is more accurate than 2 coaches specifically talking about him and saying the opposite. Got it. I appreciate your input and insight here. But I also realize often what you say is filtered through rose-colored glasses. So it can make it tough to discern truth in what you say. In the Facebook Aztec group you said this was a superb offseason by Dutcher. That’s a stretch for even the most diehard of fans. We got the best bench player in the PAC and a pretty decent player at a low major, that’s it, while losing one of our team leaders to the portal. We couldn’t even secure a guy who started for a P5. I think with the national title run we should’ve been able to recruit someone at that level. We also struck out on a 5 numerous times. Hard to call that superb in my opinion. How many starting P5 transfers did we bring in last year? Zero. How'd we do? Trammell + Parrish were great additions last year, and they played significant roles in taking us to the Final 2. IMO RDW + Pal is just as good, if not a little better. I don't think that's "rose colored". Even Torvik sees our additions as solid. w/o RDW & Pal, he had us as the 35th best team. Now, 19th, which is only a handful of spots lower than last year, and that's after losing Bradley, Nate, Keshad, AG, Seiko, etc. I'd say that's a pretty good offseason. RDW is as good as most P5 starters in the country. Our staff can see that, as can most people. Pal is similar to Parrish - starter at a midmajor who's ready for a bigger stage. That's a terrific addition, and a perfect fit to replace Keshad (& AG)! IMO that is a fantastic offseason by the staff. Sorry if you disagree. As for discerning truth, I'm assuming you mean your vision of the truth, since everyone has different perceptions. Until November, my version is as much the "truth" as yours, or anyone else. Our #1 target wasn't even a P5 player this offseason - it was Alleck, a fellow MWC player. He would have been a terrific add given his flexibility to play the 4 & 5, but home is home. This team didn't need to add a P5 transfer. They needed to add players who fit best in our roster. A roster that has 3 players the coaching staff wants to see get minutes this year in Saunders, Byrd & Johnson. Most often in portal recruiting it comes down to minutes & usage rates you have to offer. We didn't have a lot of offer. Nate only played 20-24 minutes w/ a low usage rate, and Ledee's going to take on an even bigger load. Saunders is going to get 15+ minutes at the 4, and Parrish will as well. We didn't have a lot to offer, other than Bradley's minutes/usage & RDW was a great add in that spot. And we're not even talking about Davis & Heide, and these days with kids decommitting & asking for releases I'd say keeping them also has made this offseason even better.
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Post by sdcoug on May 25, 2023 12:11:03 GMT -8
To be fair this past year we were inconsistent through january. We were 8-2 in conference but were fortunate at times (see colorado state/wyoming games) Fortunate or clutch? How many really good teams have good fortune? A lot. We weren't the only ones.
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Post by sdcoug on May 25, 2023 12:15:54 GMT -8
Fresno State adds a couple of players with former Nevada guard Jalen Weaver and La Tech transfer center Pierre Geneste Jr. Coach Hut, once again dug deep into the transfer portal. TRANSFERSIsaiah Hill PG: Tulsa > Fresno State Isaiah Pope SF: Cal Poly > Utah Tech > Fresno State Isaiah Moore PF: CoC > Pearl City CC > ST John's > So Miss > Fresno State Donavan Yap PG: UNLV > Fresno State Xavier DuSell SG: Wyo > Fresno State Jalen Weaver SG: Nev > SLC CC> Fresno State Mykell Robinson SF: NO Texas > Ranger JuCo > Fresno State Chuck Isitua C: IUPUI > Fresno State Eduardo Andre C: Neb > Fresno State Enoch Boakye C: ASU > Fresno State Pierre Geneste C: LA Tech > Fresno State HS RECRUITSLeo Colimerio F: Fresno State Joe Hunter PG: Fresno State Their issue is churn. Meah, Holland, Baker, Stroud, Hyder, Campbell.... Plus pretty sure Moore is out of eligibility.
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Post by tecsonthebeach on May 27, 2023 18:26:20 GMT -8
Joe Hunter was booted out of Fresno State’s program a day or two ago due to being arrested on felony gun charges.
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Post by jp92grad on May 27, 2023 21:52:47 GMT -8
Joe Hunter was booted out of Fresno State’s program a day or two ago due to being arrested on felony gun charges. Unbelievable, another kid throws away a golden opportunity to set himself up for life by playing basketball for a few years. He could have got a degree, made great contacts and connections that could have opened doors, played basketball at a high level that could have led to Professional Opportunities and who knows what else. This kid was more worried about being a hood rat gangbanger hangin with his Boyz then making something of himself and putting the Hood life behind him. What A Waste!
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Post by azteccc on May 27, 2023 22:08:21 GMT -8
Joe Hunter was booted out of Fresno State’s program a day or two ago due to being arrested on felony gun charges. Unbelievable, another kid throws away a golden opportunity to set himself up for life by playing basketball for a few years. He could have got a degree, made great contacts and connections that could have opened doors, played basketball at a high level that could have led to Professional Opportunities and who knows what else. This kid was more worried about being a hood rat gangbanger hangin with his Boyz then making something of himself and putting the Hood life behind him. What A Waste!  Let he who has never committed a crime cast the first stone.
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Post by jp92grad on May 27, 2023 22:39:33 GMT -8
Unbelievable, another kid throws away a golden opportunity to set himself up for life by playing basketball for a few years. He could have got a degree, made great contacts and connections that could have opened doors, played basketball at a high level that could have led to Professional Opportunities and who knows what else. This kid was more worried about being a hood rat gangbanger hangin with his Boyz then making something of himself and putting the Hood life behind him. What A Waste! Let he who has never committed a crime cast the first stone. Done a LOT of stupid things in my life but never drove around with a loaded AR while hanging out with my buddies while on a D1 Basketball scholarship. Say what you want, no matter how you look at this it is FELONY STUPID!
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